Myanmar jails Muslim for ‘rape attempt’, people riot

[Meesna]

So you are talking about Gojra. We lost 8 shaheed that day but there is no comparison to the extermination squads your fanatics led in Orissa.

What BS are you talking about? Christian community in the area was completely destroyed, then all culprits were let loose by judges without even a charge and then public rewarded the guilty PMLN leadership by electing them to the government in centre and yet you are giving this BS as if any of you have any sympathy for Christians? Where is their justice? When is PMLN leadership going to be hanged for the incident? Gojra is just one incident; there are numerous, most don’t get reported in Punjabi media for obvious reasons. There are numerous false blasphemy cases where Christians were either killed or are in prison. Take your sympathy BS somewhere else.

I don’t have any sympathy for you Islamists; your barbaric religion deserves to be spit upon not respected.

Messna you are hindu,sufi,bahai,christian or which?

I'm a human being. Is that good enough?

 

[waz]

What BS are you talking about? Christian community in the area was completely destroyed, then all culprits were let loose by judges without even a charge and then public rewarded the guilty PMLN leadership by electing them to the government in centre and yet you are giving this BS as if any of you have any sympathy for Christians? Where is their justice? When is PMLN leadership going to be hanged for the incident? Gojra is just one incident; there are numerous, most don’t get reported in Punjabi media for obvious reasons. There are numerous false blasphemy cases where Christians were either killed or are in prison. Take your sympathy BS somewhere else.

I don’t have any sympathy for you Islamists; your barbaric religion deserves to be spit upon not respected.



I'm a human being. Is that good enough?

Get the hell out of here! Don't even question what I feel about what happened to this community. You're not even Pakistani you complete coward. Why don't you just drop the act.

I know full well that the trial has been adjourned and only 2 cases bought, but that's the state of the courts and the government there. No one gets justice these days, regardless of faith.

Also I told you before I'm a Sufi and not an Islamist. Are you retarded? I hate these people.

 

[TheRafael00000]

Putin is making sure that islam is weak enough to be swallowed by Russian orthodoxy . He has enough sufi informers in every mosques.Second , the Russian media deliberately advertises the Breast milk fatwa incessantly of the wahabbis.Those work wonders on scaring the muslim women .

About Informers, I want to say one thing-they are not bad muslims. There are almost 70 Muslim countries in the world right now which is almost 1/3 of the whole sovereign countries, and in almost every country Islam has reached well enough to intermingle in their culture. Sometimes some Mullahs and arrogant so called Muslims creep out to gain some political gains. As far I have seen what happens in Pakistan, Bangladesh and India, I can sketch pretty well why it's important to have informers. We don't have any representative to tackle any crisis and that's why things get out of control. That's why Informers should be deployed.

 

[sovietiaemercom]

I have lots of friends from Russia and they include many Muslims, mostly from Kazan, the caucuses and pals in Moscow. They say no such thing, however the Wahabi threat is grave. There are no mass conversions or anything like that. In actual fact it is the other way round and something that concerns the Russian authorities, mainly due to the Aminat Kurbanova case.



The conversion of historically Orthodox Christian ethnic Russians to Islam is a highly sensitive issue in the Russian Federation, with journalists and commentators frequently offering wildly different numbers and explanations for a trend many find a matter of deep concern.

Now, Andrey Ignatyev, a specialist on the sociology of religion at Russian State Humanitarian University, seeks to answer the question of why ethnic Russians convert to Islam without the exaggerations and apocalyptic language that typically surround discussion of such religious shifts.

Read more:
The Moscow Times


In actual fact the some mufti in Russia has even asked ethnic Russians not to convert to Islam....

Staunton, May 2 – Khaydar Khafizov, the mufti of the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous District, says that the conversion of ethnic Russians to Islam is “impermissible and a dangerous phenomenon for Russia,” a remark that reflects a hardening of the view that ethnicity and religion should correspond and one that has provoked discussion.


on Eurasia -- New Series: Window on Eurasia: Mufti Says Ethnic Russians Should Not Convert to Isla

The Caucusus ?are you sure?Because in Ingushetia ,Dagestan ,the church is very active.And your source is Moscow Times ,lol,its a known Western propaganda journal with only 30,000 readers. Most call it a sensational tabliod funded by USA.and Paul Goble,lol he is the guy from Radio Free Europe known anti-russian channel.

Maybe you should watch Russian orthodox channel Soyuz ,you might be stunned by the coverage they give to the hadiths. If we hindus had known what is in the hadiths ,there would never have been as many converts to islam in the sub continents.Da,the hadiths are the greatest weapon against islam itself. Not a joke.

Also there are Radio Radonezh and Narodnoye Radio whose broadcast happens throughout Russia. Maybe you listen to the coverage of the Hadiths which

I have lots of friends from Russia and they include many Muslims, mostly from Kazan, the caucuses and pals in Moscow. They say no such thing, however the Wahabi threat is grave. There are no mass conversions or anything like that. In actual fact it is the other way round and something that concerns the Russian authorities, mainly due to the Aminat Kurbanova case.

Moscow Times is a joke.No Russian will take it seriously as it is very anti-russian in its coverage ,with exception of the neo-nazis who just want excuse to kill muslims in Moscow everyday and the mtv generation.

Funny, Because I also know Volga Tatars who converted to Orthodoxy ,Maybe you should check timur Raktmullev on facebook , a friend of mine who converted.

 

[waz]

The Caucusus ?are you sure?Because in Ingushetia ,Dagestan ,the church is very active.And your source is Moscow Times ,lol,its a known Western propaganda journal with only 30,000 readers. Most call it a sensational tabliod funded by USA.and Paul Goble,lol he is the guy from Radio Free Europe known anti-russian channel.

Maybe you should watch Russian orthodox channel Soyuz ,you might be stunned by the coverage they give to the hadiths. If we hindus had known what is in the hadiths ,there would never have been as many converts to islam in the sub continents.Da,the hadiths are the greatest weapon against islam itself. Not a joke.

Also there are Radio Radonezh and Narodnoye Radio whose broadcast happens throughout Russia. Maybe you listen to the coverage of the Hadiths which



Moscow Times is a joke.No Russian will take it seriously as it is very anti-russian in its coverage ,with exception of the neo-nazis who just want excuse to kill muslims in Moscow everyday and the mtv generation.

Funny, Because I also know Volga Tatars who converted to Orthodoxy ,Maybe you should check timur Raktmullev on facebook , a friend of mine who converted.

The Church is active within its own community and that’s a great deal down to the tensions that the Wahabis have created. As for the Moscow Times, fair enough but there are plenty more reporting the same thing……

People like Natasha are treated by Russians in different ways. At best, people are surprised, at worst, they call them traitors. In the social network "VKontakte" there are groups dedicated to Russian Muslims. A member of one such group, Anastasia Evstifeeva, said that her acceptance of Islam immediately made her a pariah. "I have problems with people. Many do not understand me and interfere with my life. I am bullied by people who are close to me." Another Russian Muslim woman in the same social network said that her father, when he saw his daughter with a book of prayer, nearly disowned her. "He shouted that he was ashamed of what I was, that he did not want to know that I was suicide bomber, killing peaceful people."

Russians converting to Islam become foreign natives - English pravda.ru

As for hadiths, there’s also sharas of hadith i.e. interpretations (hadith terminonlogy) like fath al-bari by Hasqalani and likes, so the orthodox channel can talk all it wants about them, but many of Russia’s Imams and Muslims are now well versed in them to counter what is put to them. That’s a different story.
Also a friend of yours on Facebook doesn’t really reveal a great deal, there are Facebook groups for convert Muslims who are ethnic Russian as well….I know the situation well.

 

[sovietiaemercom]

The Church is active within its own community and that’s a great deal down to the tensions that the Wahabis have created. As for the Moscow Times, fair enough but there are plenty more reporting the same thing……

People like Natasha are treated by Russians in different ways. At best, people are surprised, at worst, they call them traitors. In the social network "VKontakte" there are groups dedicated to Russian Muslims. A member of one such group, Anastasia Evstifeeva, said that her acceptance of Islam immediately made her a pariah. "I have problems with people. Many do not understand me and interfere with my life. I am bullied by people who are close to me." Another Russian Muslim woman in the same social network said that her father, when he saw his daughter with a book of prayer, nearly disowned her. "He shouted that he was ashamed of what I was, that he did not want to know that I was suicide bomber, killing peaceful people."



As for hadiths, there’s also sharas of hadith i.e. interpretations (hadith terminonlogy) like fath al-bari by Hasqalani and likes, so the orthodox channel can talk all it wants about them, but many of Russia’s Imams and Muslims are now well versed in them to counter what is put to them. That’s a different story.
Also a friend of yours on Facebook doesn’t really reveal a great deal, there are Facebook groups for convert Muslims who are ethnic Russian as well….I know the situation well.

Like I said before your own source shows the stigmata attached to islam in Russia and how ethnic russians hate it and will not tolerate their own children. And most Imams are failing in countering these channels in coverage of the hadiths as they fear insulting the wahabbis in any manner and many of the orthodox anchors drive around in RPG proof vehicles like Kombat T-98 or bullet proof vehicles provided by FSB(there is a very big nexus between FSB and Russian orthodox church) and live in heavily enforced buildings also ,but then no risk no gain,the church is taking a lot of risks which the sufis are not .And Pravda.ru is a tabliod another one ....There are several articles like alien starships to attack earth in 2012 or Boriska -Boy from Mars. Its laughable how desperate you are that you have to quote another tabloid like pravda which has articles like Boriska -boy from mars or russian children to get gay love books from the West. I have been living in Russia for some time and I do know that a lot of ethnic russians are embracing buddhism and syncretist spiritualism ,but islam , lol,there own families dissuade them and with the help of the hadiths the church is bringing Ingush and Dagestani families into the orthodox fold ,thanks to the women who are stunned and scared by the hadiths.


Also check comprehensive opinion polls by rusk.ru about the % of population who regard themselves as Muslim .Its only 4-6% .70% consider themselves christian and remainder consider themselves syncretists or atheists.Lately Syncretism is becoming very popular in Russia, not certainly Islam like how your sensationalist tabliod which claims that 240 km wide starships are coming to attack earth..

 

[sovietiaemercom]

Only among the Orthodox christian clergy now has 400 ethnic Muslims, some of whom are not only the Tatars with the Bashkirs, but the Chechens. For comparison, you can see that from the "Russian Muslims" came out only two imams, one of whom is serving a sentence for extremist activities, and another is under investigation for similar crimes.

Moscow, April 10, Interfax - The often-claimed proportion of Russian citizens belonging to the Muslim faith is overestimated, the Russian islamologist Roman Silantyev thinks.

'The most widespread estimation of 20 million Muslims is unrealistic,' Silantyev said as he presented his new book on Russian Islam in Moscow.

The number of Russian Muslims is 'the most serious myth' about Islam in today's Russia, where no verifiable data has been available so far.

Silantyev said he met estimations between 5 and 50 million Muslims in Russia.

In the same time the number of ethnic Muslims in Russia is more or less known and estimated to be 14.5 million, Silantyev said. Yet surveys say that there are only 7 to 9 million people who adhere to the Islamic faith in Russia.

Another popular myth is a mass conversion of ethnic Russian to Islam, he added.

'Less than 3,000 ethnic Russian have converted to Islam for the last 15 years,' Silantyev said.

According to the researcher, for the same period almost 2 million ethic Muslims have become Orthodox Christians for the same period. Over 400 Russian Orthodox clergy belong to traditionally Muslim ethnic groups, 20 percent of Tatars are Christian, and 70 percent of interfaith marriages result in the Muslim spouse conversion to Christianity.
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Like I said before you can thank the wahabbis and their fatwas for this.A lot of muslims in Russia are non-practising and with the kind of fatwas wahabbis keep passing ,it causes muslims to run away from islam itself.

 

[Meesna]

 

[hussain0216]

Islam to become Russia?s predominant religion by 2050? - English pravda.ru
Islam to become Russia main religion by 2050

 

[hussain0216]

New Report On International Growth Of Islam
Growth of islam internationally

Russia also included

http://www.mercatornet.com/demography/view/4878

http://www.mercatornet.com/demography/view/4878

A muslim president for Russia

 

[hussain0216]

Russia's Muslims: A benign growth | The Economist

The growth of islam in Russia

 

[hussain0216]

Russia becoming a Muslim state! | Asian Tribune

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/22/international/europe/22russia.html?pagewanted=all

 

[hussain0216]

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/22/international/europe/22russia.html?pagewanted=all
Growth of islam in Russia brings Soviet response

 

[hussain0216]

Почему русские принимают ислам // KP.RU
The above is apparently about slavs converting to islam I can't vouch for it because it's in Russian it might be about something else

 

[hussain0216]

Muslim populations by country: how big will each Muslim population be by 2030? | News | theguardian.com
Growth of islam