Myanmar deploys troops along border

[Clutch]

google this headline: Israel Among the Least Religious Countries in the World

Not really... most Israelis are religious but a large percentage aren't.

Having said that they ... religiosity isn't the measure it's beyond that ... it's cultural, linguistically, historical, and genetic connection... which can't be denied.

Recent history isn't a measure.

 

[locknload]

Not really... most Israelis are religious but a large percentage aren't.

Having said that they ... religiosity isn't the measure it's beyond that ... it's cultural, linguistically, historical, and genetic connection... which can't be denied.

Recent history isn't a measure.

recent history and current events are of consequence, who cares what was 1400 years ago and what will be in 1400 years from now.

live in the present.

 

[Clutch]

recent history and current events are of consequence, who cares what was 1400 years ago and what will be in 1400 years from now.

live in the present.

Present always changes... most Arabs have peace treaties with Israel and Saudis are heading that way... Israel could very well soon be part of the middle east community where it belongs and where it yearns to to be...

If the Saudis normalize relations with Israel pakistan wil follow as will many nations.

 

[locknload]

Present always changes... most Arabs have peace treaties with Israel and Saudis are heading that way... Israel could very well soon be part of the middle east community where it belongs and where it yearns to to be...

If the Saudis normalize relations with Israel pakistan wil follow as will many nations.

That'll be a good thing for the Israel and the region so lets hope for that day but it's unlikely, the hatered of the jew is hard coded into the arab's religious ideology..

and why must Pakistan follow saudia or others in this regard ?

 

[Clutch]

That'll be a good thing for the Israel and the region so lets hope for that day but it's unlikely, the hatered of the jew is hard coded into the arab's religious ideology..

and why must Pakistan follow saudia or others in this regard ?

Can't be ... hatred of Jews is a media brainwash... over 90% of the quran talks about jewsish hero's... they are our prophets...they are our deeen. It's all about the Jewish history ... is ours. How can Arabs be brainwashed to hate Jews when we have love them in the Quran... lol!!!!!!

Almost all Islamic history is Jewish history!

 

[locknload]

Can't be ... hatred of Jews is a media brainwash... over 90% of the quran talks about jewsish hero's... they are our prophets...they are our deeen. It's all about the Jewish history ... is ours. How can Arabs be brainwashed to hate Jews when we have love them in the Quran... lol!!!!!!

Almost all Islamic history is Jewish history!

so many of our gods must also be part of the 124000 earlier prophets ?

a muslim friend and fan of shiva said that to me once.

 

[Basel]

Even for that, they'd need to station their fighters around Myanmar which is pretty far away from Turkey. Unless they have some super long range aircraft that we don't know about. They are planning on an aircraft carrier, but it's not so easy even with a carrier.


Unlike Israelis you know off (who, btw?), I actually do know a bunch of real Israelis, they love the curry, many have been coming here for years.

Also, culture, food, music is one thing.. I personally like a lot of Islamic things that way, the religious ideology otoh...

I think with Mid air refueling they can perform strike missions using ALCMs but for that Indonesia should allow Turkey (Turkey have F-16 & F-4s with good range) to use it's air bases, also Indonesian Su-30s can also be good option if they are willing to go after Myanmar to stop genocide.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

Question is will Turkey use military muscle to stop Myanmar??I don't think so. BD needs to take the initiative, only then others can help..

True, BD need to be the main base where Rohingya fighters and supportive volunteer can receive supply and regroup. Then other countries can help.But I very much doubt, this will be ever materialize under this govt. This govt. have very much detest for anything like 'armed Muslims'.This govt. repeatedly vow to not to let use Bangladeshi territory to carry out attack in neighboring countries to curry favor in India and Burma.So it is most unlikely and bad luck for Rohingya Muslims.Let's see how much diplomacy can take this issue to how far.

 

[locknload]

I think with Mid air refueling they can perform strike missions using ALCMs but for that Indonesia should allow Turkey (Turkey have F-16 & F-4s with good range) to use it's air bases, also Indonesian Su-30s can also be good option if they are willing to go after Myanmar to stop genocide.

Maybe, haven't bothered checking F-16 range with eft/cft (would also depend on payload) but I doubt. Would need a B-1 lancer or some strategic bomber like the TU 160, TU - 95 etc. As for mid air refueling, in whose airspace ? These are major logistics challenges.

Only the US/NATO can pull these kinds of stunts off for now, and realistically speaking nobody is going to bomb Myanmar over this, not as long as China, Russia support them in the UNSC. Trump admin I think we know are very unlikely to do anything either..

Any talk of cancelling the planned JF-17 sales to them within Pakistan ? Though senior partner China will likely kill any such proposal.

 

[idune]

What did indian stooge awami regime did against Myanmar deployment of troops and continious violation of Bangladesh airspace?????? Nothing. That goes to show anti independence and anti Bangladesh agenda of current regime in Bangladesh.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

The popular poet, singer and strategic thinker Muhib Khan vow to raise 100,000 young fighter from across the country to fight for Rohingya and ask PM Sheikh Hasina to provide weapon in his letter to PM.

Somehow certain sections of Bangladesh and India will claim Munib Khan to be an ISI officer.

 

[Basel]

Maybe, haven't bothered checking F-16 range with eft/cft (would also depend on payload) but I doubt. Would need a B-1 lancer or some strategic bomber like the TU 160, TU - 95 etc. As for mid air refueling, in whose airspace ? These are major logistics challenges.

Only the US/NATO can pull these kinds of stunts off for now, and realistically speaking nobody is going to bomb Myanmar over this, not as long as China, Russia support them in the UNSC. Trump admin I think we know are very unlikely to do anything either..

Any talk of cancelling the planned JF-17 sales to them within Pakistan ? Though senior partner China will likely kill any such proposal.

If Israel manage to do it in Iraq then it can be done in Myanmar too.

Turkey operate F-16s and F-4 2020 both can be used to do the job as Turkey also have very advance AWACS too.

http://www.aviationreportglobal.com/2012/07/04/turkey-phantom-f-4e-phantom-2020/

 

[idune]

If Israel manage to do it in Iraq then it can be done in Myanmar too.

exactly...its all matter of will.

 

[Basel]

Capability and will. They'll also have to pass through a no of nations' air-spaces, a completely different set of countries with different capabilities, terrain etc than what Israel and Iran did back then. They'll also need baba Trump's blessings..

I suppose it could be done, but only on paper, a real world scenario is completely unworkable and would fail quite badly if Erdogan is silly enough to go through with this. He's just grandstanding anyway, what has happened in Syria over the past 6 years, in which he has had a big part to play is much worse than this Myanmar situation.

Military scenarios are fun to imagine though, if the Turks could do it, why not Pakistan.. you guys operate the same strike fighter ? spl considering that Pak af practices hard against simulated Indian defences, your direct route to there.. sneak through all of India, deliver islamic freedom bombs in Myanmar, and rtb.. lol.

A more realistic scenario for PAF would probably be to fly to the Maldives (saudi puppets) and then to malaysia or indonesia and launch ops against the Myanmar military from there.

Please read my post again, I clearly mentioned that Indonesian bases will be needed and if possible their Su-30s could be big boost for strike package also Turkish F-4s are very advance and this bird have very good range specially with Mid Air Refueling, so practically it's possible for Turkey as they have better equipment then Pakistan, later can provide logistics support to mission.

 

[locknload]

Please read my post again, I clearly mentioned that Indonesian bases will be needed and if possible their Su-30s could be big boost for strike package also Turkish F-4s are very advance and this bird have very good range specially with Mid Air Refueling, so practically it's possible for Turkey as they have better equipment then Pakistan, later can provide logistics support to mission.

In what way are Turkish Air Force F-16s superior to Pakistani ones ?

Very interesting scenario otherwise, just don't have the time to do the research and come up with numbers atm but Pak AF in such a scenario would probablly fly to The Maldives, and then on to south east Asian friendly Islamic countries, going through the heart of India is probably not doable for this mission.