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Maybe because we are the most familiar with that model and perform our best with it. The Chinese brought their own tanks for that reason i think
 
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Accha why does Myanmar army use T-72 in each and every army games?

You can bring your own tanks otherwise you have to use T72B3M provided by the host country Rusdia.
This year except for China's own Type 96B tanks and Belarus's own upgraded version of T-72 main battle tanks, all the other 14 participating countries are going to use Russian-made T-72B3 tanks.
 
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Wait so if Singapore and Indonesia participated, they can bring their big cats down to the games is that it?
 
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Myanmar and Japan are now agreed to fly even in this Covid period for more economic co-operation. This agreement was made during the visit to Myanmar by Japanese foreign minister Motegi Toshimitsu.
 
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Did Myanmar really order 4 subs from Russia? Are those Kilos under construction in Russia are for Myanmar?? Or just Thais want to justify their 2 subs purchase from China??
 
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First Look At The First Burmese Space Launcher

It was suspected that this would be leaked, the way all nations do, including Japan, Iran, China and North Korea.

As the first satellite developed by Burma, is about to launched by Japan, it was the logical procedure to leak some details about the following but still unofficial next steps!

The next steps being, and according to my previous predictions:
• 1. An indigenous space launcher
• 2. A manned space launcher
• 3. A manned spacecraft

We got all of them in one interview! Therefore confirming ALL my previous analyses and assessments!

This practice reminds one of the Iranian Safir-4 satellite launcher (Soroush) wind tunnel test model, that was also leaked in 2017 during an interview.

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1. Screen capture of a 2017 Iranian Wind Tunnel Model of a New Heavy Space Launcher, from Iranian Space Research Institute. The first stage core booster has also four new strap-on boosters, and a new second stage of 3.5 meters diameter.


The first screen grab, from a 14th August 2020 video shows what resembles no other known space launchers, though very conservative and conventional in its design, made of seemingly two stages of the same diameter.

The first ever image captured from an unknown Burmese space rocket, during an official interview with Dr Kyi Thwin, President of the Myanmar Aerospace Engineering University:

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2. The first ever image captured from an unknown Burmese space rocket.

And the larger picture, showing both a manned spacecraft (simply a scale model of the Chinese Shenzhou) and a manned space launcher (the Chinese CZ-2F).

Note that a third satellite launcher shows similar strap-on boosters but slimmer and pehaps more than 4 without certainty due to the the poor quality of the video. And similarly enclosed in a protective glass container like its Iranian Safir-4 SLV counterpart! :lol:

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4. And the larger picture, showing both a manned spacecraft (simply a scale model of the Chinese Shenzhou) and a manned space launcher (the Chinese CZ-2F).

To choose the Shenzhou spacecraft and CZ-2F manned launcher instead of the vintage Cold War era Viking Rus' Soyuz and Semyorka manned launcher, or even worse the most shoddy and untested Hindu Gaganyaan crewed orbital spacecraft and the not even man-rated GSLV Mk III launcher, testifies of the level of thrust and friendship between the Tatmadaw and the Chinese leadership, seen in Naypyidaw as an eternal role model to follow, and cemented as Paukphaw brothers with a genuine friendship based on millenia of peaceful cohabitation, and shared common cherished value like tea culture, jade and fireworks, or buddhist compassion.

Something that is so rare is today's world were one is so quicky backstabbed once having its back turned!

And unlike the one that someone could developed with the most untrustworthy ethnic Europeans, as unholy stop gap measure as it could be, to say the least.

But this makes Burma the second nation to study and follow the path of China's space program, after North Korea.

Congratulations again bro! As this winning strategy can only be crowned with success!

May Buddha's Compassion go with you!

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Full translation of the original article:

Subtitles: Participation in micro satellite group launch plans for Myanmar and Asian countries

August 14, 2020 8:00 Origin: Myanmar [Myanmar Japan Asia/Oceania]


[August 14, AFP] Preparations are underway for the launch of a satellite for the first time in Myanmar's history. It shows the intention of participating in "unexpected" joint development plans between emerging space developing countries.

In the space program in which micro satellites cooperate with each other, which is being developed by nine countries in Asia, follow-up surveys of typhoons, seismic activities, water currents, etc., and data collection of land use, crop growth, epidemics, etc. It is expected to be possible.

This is the first space project for Myanmar, which has the slowest economic development of the consortium (joint R&D entity) in which the Philippines, Vietnam, Indonesia, etc. participate.

The benefits of observing the global environment from space are worth the enormous cost Myanmar spends, says Kyi Thwin, president of Myanmar Aerospace Engineering University.

"If you develop your own satellites in your own country, it will be simply cheaper," said Twin, who responded to the AFP interview at a university near Meiktila, a city in central Myanmar. He said that he would be “helpful”.

Even so, the “orbit” where Myanmar is still not the same as that of a large space development country. The university building, which Mr. Twin responded to interviews, has the shape of a space shuttle, but the budget is not enough to repair the damaged part at the top (part of the shuttle's nose). It's

However, due to technological progress and the spirit of cooperation, it is certain that the launch of artificial satellites will no longer be limited to large countries such as the United States, Russia, and China.

Yukihiro Takahashi of Hokkaido University, one of the two research institutes in Japan that is leading the joint development plan, took Nigeria as an example and said that the country is a world of cheap production of satellite technology. Point out that it is a strategic base.

The purpose of the plan is to launch about 5 micro-satellites every year and finally control about 50 orbital satellites with a consortium. Each microsatellite weighs less than 100 kilograms and has a life of 5 years.

First cost of Myanmar is 16 million dollars (about 1.7 billion yen), which is not astronomically expensive. Compared to the conventional satellite launch cost of 100 million dollars (about 10.5 billion yen), it is about a fraction.

The launch is expected to be conducted overseas, but Myanmar is planning to establish its own ground control center and cooperate with the Japanese control center.

Mr. Takahashi told AFP, “Myanmar must be one of the major players,” and Malaysia, Thailand, Bangladesh, Mongolia and others are expected to join the team at a later date.

According to Mr. Takahashi, the camera used in the satellite operation plan will have the highest performance in space and will be able to take images almost continuously. This image data is converted into a 3D (three-dimensional) model of a typhoon or disaster area.

Also, changes in land use from urban development to deforestation and illegal mining can be tracked and investigated by satellites.

■Coronavirus stands up

⑦ Seven aerospace engineers, the first from Myanmar, have already finished packing a few months ago and are ready to go to Japan at any time to proceed with satellite development work.

However, the engineers' travel plans are still pending because of the border closure due to the new coronavirus. Myanmar's first launch is scheduled for early 2021, so the time remaining is not long.

Nonetheless, one engineer, Thu Thu Aung (40), who attended the recent briefing session while maintaining a physical distance from others, was thrilled to be able to participate in this project. I was told.

"Sending artificial satellites into outer space from Myanmar and from our university is our dream"

The video was taken in June, partly provided by Myanmar Aerospace Engineering University. (c)AFP/Richard SARGENT / Su Myat MON


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First Look At The First Burmese Space Launcher

Characteristics Of The First Burmese Space Launcher


What can we tell from the future Burmese space launcher based on available internet open source informations?

• So far, Burma in conducting research on liquid propellant rocket

Design and Simulation of Liquid Propellant Rocket Injector

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1. Combustion Simulation of Liquid Propellant Rocket Engine, MAEU Fluid Energy and Environmental Engineering Lab.

• As propellants, Keolox that is kerosene and liquid oxygen has been investigated

Simulation of Kerosene-O2 Combustion Flow in Liquid Rocket Combustion Chamber

• Also solid propellant is being investigated

Testing the Physical and Mechanical Properties of Epoxy-Based Solid Rocket Propellant

• The use of ion thruster is considered for GEO satellite
Spacecraft Power System Design Based on Ion-Thruster of Electric Propulsion

• Dr.Aung Ko Wynn who is Head of Department (2011-Until Now) of the Myanmar Aerospace Engineering University Department of Space Systems Engineering, was educated in China with a M.E in Fluid Mechanics and Ph.D in Flight Vehicles Design

In short, the first Burmese satellite carrier should be comparable to the 2 stages Korean KSLV, burning LOX/Kerosene, and with comparatively very large stage separation solid rockets, and solid propellant ullage rockets as seen in the leaked video footage.

But the Burmese rocket might probably have a lower payload capacity, because the 'larger separation solid rockets' might be an indication that in fact, instead of the solid rockets being larger, it is the diameter of the core booster that is smaller than the KSLV. In this case, the diameter should be smaller than 3 meters. Exactly what we expected for any nation testing its first ever space launcher (diameter between 1 to 2.5 meters).

Unlike the KSLV, the Burmese rocket's payload fairing is of the same diameter to the two rocket stages.

The length to diameter ratio called slenderness ratio seems to be smaller than the KSLV, meaning that the Burmese rocket looks thicker but sturdier.

Finally, the GEO belt is a long term goal for the Tatmadaw's space activities. But for the first launches, an due to the geographic situation of Burma, launching south-westward, toward the Bay of Bengal and Indian Ocean seems the most prudent, in order to avoid rocket debris falling over foreign nation territories, that is toward a Polar Orbit (SSO).

Tracking and telemetry would be made easier with well positioned ships in the Indian Ocean. At a later stage, search and rescue vessel (SAR) could be positioned in supporting suborbital manned space launches.

Congratulations again bro! As this winning strategy can only be crowned with success!

May Buddha's Compassion go with you!

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Here an update of the previous post, as no reedit can be done past the 24 hours limit.


First Look At The First Burmese Space Launcher

Characteristics Of The First Burmese Space Launcher


What do we know about the future Burmese space launcher based on available internet open source informations?

• So far, Burma in conducting research on liquid propellant rocket

Design and Simulation of Liquid Propellant Rocket Injector

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1. Combustion Simulation of Liquid Propellant Rocket Engine, MAEU Fluid Energy and Environmental Engineering Lab.

• As propellants, Kerolox that is the combination of kerosene and liquid oxygen has been investigated

Simulation of Kerosene-O2 Combustion Flow in Liquid Rocket Combustion Chamber

• Also solid propellant is being investigated

Testing the Physical and Mechanical Properties of Epoxy-Based Solid Rocket Propellant

• The use of ion thruster is envisaged for GEO satellite
Spacecraft Power System Design Based on Ion-Thruster of Electric Propulsion

• Dr.Aung Ko Wynn who is Head of Department (2011-Until Now) of the Myanmar Aerospace Engineering University Department of Space Systems Engineering, was educated in China with a M.E in Fluid Mechanics and Ph.D in Flight Vehicles Design

In short, the first Burmese satellite carrier should be comparable in shape but not in performance to the 2 stages Korean KSLV-s, burning a mixture of LOX/Kerosene, and with comparatively very large stage separation solid rockets, and solid propellant ullage rockets as seen in the leaked video footage.

But the Burmese rocket might probably have a lower payload capacity, because the 'larger separation solid rockets' might be an indication that in fact, instead of the solid rockets being larger, it is the diameter of the core booster that is smaller than the KSLV-s. In this case, the diameter should be smaller than 2.6 meters. Exactly what we expected for any nation testing its first ever space launcher (diameter between 1 to 2 meters).

Like the KSLV-s, the Burmese rocket's payload fairing is of the same diameter to the rocket's second stage.

The diameter of the second stage seems also slightly smaller than that of the first stage. That difference is less pronounced than between the KSLV-s' 1st and 2nd stages.

The length to diameter ratio called slenderness ratio seems to be smaller than the KSLV-s, meaning that the Burmese rocket looks thicker but sturdier. But the poor quality and limited field of view makes this difficult to assess.

• About a slenderness ratio of 4 for the second stage including the payload fairing
• No less than a slenderness ratio of 4 for the first stage due to the limited field of view of the image

The fairing nosecone's angle is more pronounced than that of the KSLV-s.

An interstage skirt connects the two stages, with several separation and ullage solid propellant rockets attached to it.

No hint at the possible number of main engines, nor the type of roll and attitude control system. That is no clue about whether it uses jet vanes or gimballed engines.

No aerodynamic planar or grid fins can be seen.

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1. Artistic representation of the first Burmese Space Launcher. 2020.

What a long way since these first 13th century traditional bamboo rockets!

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2. Traditional 13th century Pa'O rocket, with range up to 10 km (6 miles) during the pwe lu-phaing (Fire Rocket Festival), celebrated from April to July.
The Pa'O settled in the Thaton region of present-day Myanmar around 1000 B.C. 缅甸勃欧人放火箭/高升图.


Finally, the GEO belt is a long term goal for the Tatmadaw's space activities. But for the first launches, an due to the geographic situation of Burma, launching south-westward to a Polar Orbit (SSO), and toward the Bay of Bengal and Indian Ocean seems the most prudent option, in order to avoid rocket debris falling over foreign nation's territories.

Tracking and telemetry would be made easier with well positioned ships in the Indian Ocean. At a later stage, search and rescue vessel (SAR) could be positioned there in supporting suborbital manned space missions.


Did the Tatmadaw start from scratch? Or did it wisely collect and try to reverse engineer the fallen rocket engines and stages of the Chinese launchers heading to the Indian Ocean on a Sun Synchronous Orbit (SSO) mission?

If so then the Tatmadaw could well end up first among the ASEAN nations in the aerospace endeavour.

Indeed, what could power the first Burmese rocket is possibly a 75 tonnes thrust engine! That is light years ahead of any ASEAN competitor! By clustering four such hypothetical engines, the second Burmese space rocket could already send a man into space!

Look no further, the following image speaks for itself.

The CZ-7 (Chang Zheng-7, or Long March-7) is the medium-lift member of China’s next generation launch vehicles based on several common rocket engines using environmentally friendly kerosene and cryogenic propellants. The CZ-7 is expected to become China’s workhorse launcher, intended to deliver manned spacecrafts into Earth orbit!

What a message from the Tatmadaw about its manned space ambitions!

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3. The green peacock and the dragon are indeed true pauk-phaw brothers born from the same womb.

The green peacock and the dragon are indeed true pauk-phaw brothers born from the same womb, that has allowed millennia of brotherly friendship and peaceful coexistence, something quite unique in the annals of history.

Therefore, Burma is after North Korea, the second nation to study and follow the path of China's space program.

Congratulations again bro! As this winning strategy can only be crowned with success!

May Buddha's Compassion go with you!


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