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My imam father came after me with an axe

First, I fail to see why this article is being considered by many here as an affront to Islam.
There are several instances of Christian / Buddhist priest / nuns /monks preying on defenseless children - so why not a Muslim Imam?

A1Kaid wants us to believe that incest and child abuse is a Christian affliction and miraculously the Muslim world is to a large extent immune. I completely disagree, it happens everywhere and the extent of the problem in Muslim society can only be gauged once victims find the courage to speak.

"A1Kaid wants us to believe..." No not true, but this girl in the article and the author of the article wants everyone to believe that somehow converting to Christianity makes you (to use your words) "immune" to "incest and child abuse" or lessens your chances of this barbarity happening to you... Your attempt at dissembling what I previously posted, failed.

Read my previous post, I never denied that rapes and abuses have occurred within the "Muslim World".

But what is clear from many sources, details, reports, is that the Western world suffers from extremely high rape rates historically. Now back to the topic. Again I condemn such barbarity,
 
First, I fail to see why this article is being considered by many here as an affront to Islam.
There are several instances of Christian / Buddhist priest / nuns /monks preying on defenseless children - so why not a Muslim Imam?

A1Kaid wants us to believe that incest and child abuse is a Christian affliction and miraculously the Muslim world is to a large extent immune. I completely disagree, it happens everywhere and the extent of the problem in Muslim society can only be gauged once victims find the courage to speak.
You don't get the problem? Let me tell you the head of the story.. My Imam father................. This is where it shows what the writer is trying to say.. All she means to put Islam down nothing more and it shows her bashing Islam. One can tell by the title and her BS story shows where she is comming from!!! Stupid dumb woman!:tdown::disagree::disagree::disagree:
 
First, I fail to see why this article is being considered by many here as an affront to Islam.
There are several instances of Christian / Buddhist priest / nuns /monks preying on defenseless children - so why not a Muslim Imam?

A1Kaid wants us to believe that incest and child abuse is a Christian affliction and miraculously the Muslim world is to a large extent immune. I completely disagree, it happens everywhere and the extent of the problem in Muslim society can only be gauged once victims find the courage to speak.
I wouldn't call the article an affront to Islam, but she's being really unfair. She's made a lot of claims about some man she calls an Imam, then attributes horrible things to him and then declares that as her reason to quit Islam and even compares Christianity to be the loving alternative.

Go to the police. All of the Muslimkind will support her taking down this evil man.

Now in her way what has happened:

1. She made lots of money
2. She doesn't need to independently verify the facts of her book.
3. She is helping keep such a man out of prison who is a danger to society.

She was one wronged person. Her actions would wrong a lot of others.

But on the flipside, this forced marriage, chasing with axes sort of behavior is not uncommon that much is true. Incestuous rape is rare though. Daughters are taken care of, not abused this way. In fact if you look deep down into the underlying motives, their harshness has an intent towards kindness too.

So c'mon she has to prove her claims.

The other thing, is I hear lots of my modern civilized friends trying to get UK visas and they never get it, or have to jump through hoops for it. What kind of jackasses does the UK import? Seriously!
 
Well i dont know why, should a muslim take this article personally. Its not how many good we have, but how many bad apples we have in the community. If we blindly close our eyes to the bad things and pracitses followed in our community and refuse to believe that such people are there, then perceptions will never change about a muslim. A moderate muslim should raise his voice against such aritorcacises and should support the lady. Not bluntly accusing her of lying and degrading islam. If she choose chirstianity its her decision, which had been influenced by her upbringing and the envionrment she had been brought up. It has nothing to do with islam, but the bad apples of the community, and strong voice should generated against them.
 
Such case have nothing to do with religion - i guess - its a shame on humanity- which is mother of all religion morals and custom.
I don't think the poster was trying to offend Islam - but its just simple unfortunate it happened to a Muslim- but could have happened to anybody - SAY Josef Fritzl that Austrian he is not a Muslim. nor Wolfgang Priklopil or British businessman who was found last nov in Sheffield, i read about such cases in India , USA Europe Africa Australia everywhere.

Lets not take it personally and JUST DON'T DEFEND this animal - by why did this girl not complain for all those years - since you cant understand fear and torture she might have been through.
 
So people are converting to Christianity this way and still we are being blamed for forceful conversion of minorities to Islam.:disagree:
 
Interesting thing in this story is dat she has not discussed this thing wid her mom. She has courage now to tell the whole world about what happend wid her but not to her mom and siblings. Being living in western society, she could go to police for help and her conversion to chiristianity is not fully understood.
A muslim can b bad but Islam is not a bad religion. We should hate bad person due to his bad deeds but not Islam as it is the religion which has the severe punishment of this act.
 
It is just another BS....move on people why waste your time on such threads. And why disturb the sancity of this forum?
 
Another woman using the current Anti Islamic climate to make some money out of selling bounded garbage in the name of a book.

She was raped from the age of 5 till 16, yet only fled because she feared a forced marriage?

She didn't think of fleeing because of the incestuous behaviour?

Doesn't make sense.

How much sense you expect from a 16 year old? And that too a brutally treated girl?

You are talking of sense because you were brought up in a normal environment. She could have a very different frame of reference.

We can't imagine what were her ideas for marriage at that time. You just can't ask for her being sane.

I think you have no right to apply your one-eyed logic and insult her like this, unless you have any first hand facts. Forgive me for being personal.

Thanks.
 
Death threats can’t stop me being a Christian, says Imam’s daughter

From Death threats can’t stop me being a Christian, says imam’s daughter -Times Online

An imam’s daughter whose family threatened to kill her after she converted to Christianity at the age of 16 has told The Times that, because of her faith, she is not afraid to die.

But Hannah, now 32, has been forced to live under police protection for the past month since her brother told her that he could not be responsible for his actions if she did not return to Islam. Hannah, who hopes to marry a fellow Christian next year, uses a pseudonym and has moved house 45 times since her conversion.

She said: “Yes, there is a possibility I will be killed, just as there is for anyone that they can get run over by a bus. My faith means that I am not afraid to die. If I was to focus on that, I would spend my life at home, trapped. I am not going to let it stop me being who I am, from being a Christian.” She said that her freedom was made possible by living in Britain. “We are protected by the law in this country, which means I should be free to live the life God has called me to live.”

Hannah was speaking to The Times after the Right Rev Michael Nazir-Ali, the Bishop of Rochester, launched a new charity last week called Lapido Media, which aims to improve “religious literacy” about world affairs. Dr Nazir-Ali said that although the Koran did not specify the death penalty for apostasy, the four main Sunni and two Shia schools of Islamic thought agreed that this was an accurate interpretation of the hadith, or the oral tradition.

However, two of the world’s leading Islamic scholars suggested recently that the death penalty was intended to be carried out only in the next life.

Hannah, who was born in Britain but whose father is from Pakistan, said that she had a strict religious upbringing. She prayed five times a day and wore the full hijab from the age of ten.

Although she attended a Church of England primary school, 80 per cent of her fellow pupils were also Muslim. She learnt to read Arabic and had read the Koran by the age of 8. “I did not really know what was beyond that Pakistani community.” When she started secondary school she became more aware of the outside world – and when, aged 16, she overheard her father on the phone arranging her flight to Pakistan to marry a cousin whom she had never met she was shocked into action. “I went to college and did not go home,” she said. “I had nowhere to go. Everyone I knew was Muslim and knew my dad. I was on the street for about a week.” She slept in bus shelters until her religious education teacher offered her a bed. Against the teacher’s wishes, she started going to church.

“I watched everyone and saw how they lived their lives. I heard about God’s love, about how Jesus died on the cross. I was totally blown away by it. I asked someone how I could get to know Jesus. They said, ‘Ask him to come into your life. Ask for forgiveness’. So I did and that night I became a Christian.”

Hannah was still in contact with her family but they did not take her conversion seriously. Three years later she was baptised and invited them to the ceremony. They told her she was bringing shame upon them and the death threats began. At one point, 14 men with stones and knives came to her door and shouted at her to come out. When the threats became more serious a month ago, she went to the police. She said: “I pray that one day there will be a reconciliation with my family. But I have no regrets, not one.”
 
How much sense you expect from a 16 year old? And that too a brutally treated girl?

You are talking of sense because you were brought up in a normal environment. She could have a very different frame of reference.

We can't imagine what were her ideas for marriage at that time. You just can't ask for her being sane.

I think you have no right to apply your one-eyed logic and insult her like this, unless you have any first hand facts. Forgive me for being personal.

Thanks.

hunger for money, she wanted to sell her book..
 
Another Hirsi Ali in the making.

Some women (a very very very very small minority) see the current media fascination with horror stories about Islam as a way of making money.

She could have kept quiet, gone to court, got a restraining order. She was after all, such a timid girl, both young and naive, too scared to run away from her father. But suddenly the timid, shy girl turned into the loud mouthed celebrity making $$ of selling her book.

Possible it happened. But I don't trust anyone coming from nowhere trying to sell their books. This sort of stuff would go down well in the Bible Belt.
 
Pastor Charged With Incest

QUEENS NY-- The pastor of a Westbury, LI, church has been charged with sexually abusing his three daughters at their Rockaway residence over the last 4½ years.

"What allegedly happened to these children is every child's and every mother's worst nightmare" district attorney Richard A. Brown said. "Even after the physical abuse has stopped, the consequences of such sexual assault for victims are profound and can result in emotion trauma from which they may never recover."

Morales Saintilus, 53, of Rockaway, Queens, pastor of the Eben-Ezer Baptist Church, located at 859 Prospect Avenue in Westbury, is being held pending arraignment in Queens Criminal Court on four counts of incest, two counts of endangering the welfare of a child and two counts of sexual abuse in the second degree.

If convicted, he faces up to four years in prison. According to court records in Queens Criminal Court, it is alleged that the defendant, between July 2001 and January 2006, had sexual intercourse with his eldest daughter approximately twice a week. The daughter is presently 19 years old. It is further alleged that the defendant, between September 2004 and June 2005, sexually abused his two younger daughters on a total of 17 occasions. At the time of the incidents, both daughters were less than 14 years old.

Pastor Charged With Incest - ExChristian.Net - News and Opinion
 
Pastor sentenced to 8yrs for incest

A pastor from a South Australian fundamentalist church has been jailed for eight-and-a-half years after admitting he had sex with two of his teenage daughters.

The 54-year-old man, who cannot be named, pleaded guilty to seven counts each of incest and unlawful sexual intercourse.

The court heard that the man had sex with his daughters for nearly a decade in the 1990s at the family property.

The man later told the court he had sex with the girls to "educate" them on how to be good wives - not for his own gratification.

Judge David Lovell rejected that, saying the man's explanation for the abuse "defied belief".

In setting a four-year non-parole period, Judge Lovell said the man had "good prospects" of rehabilitation, and continued to have the support of his wife and church.

Pastor sentenced to 8yrs for incest - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
 
Pastor Charged with Incest

The pastor of a church in Patterson has been arrested on charges he had sex with a family member.

Detectives with the Iberville Parish Sheriff's Office say they arrested 69-year-old James Piper Junior for aggravated incest.

Pastor Charged with Incest
 

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