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Last year, the Chinese wife of a Pakistani man traveled back home to China with their two children. She wanted to introduce her younger boy, 18 months old, to her mom.

But after she landed in China's northwestern region of Xinjiang, she was detained, says her husband, a doctor named Rehman. His wife is a Uighur Muslim, a member of a minority group that has been targeted in a Chinese crackdown.

Security officials left their sons at their grandmother's house. Weeks later, they returned and took away the older boy, age 6.


The security officials "admitted him to a Chinese orphanage school," says Rehman. From what he's understood, the orphanage is meant to raise the children in Chinese culture. "They don't want the children to have Pakistani or Uighur customs. They want the children to become Chinese," he says. "It's not a normal school. They teach them, they feed them, but they don't allow the children to see their parents."

Rehman hasn't heard from his wife or older son since he took them to the airport in Pakistan in July.

"It's a very difficult time," he says, pursing his lips and holding back tears. "My family has been broken."


For decades, there have been marriages and business ties between Pakistanis and Uighurs from China's Muslim-majority Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region. All that has been shattered by China's crackdown on its Uighur minority.

NPR spoke with six men whose Uighur wives have been taken away in the past year and a half. NPR is withholding full names and identifying details of most of the men because they fear for their family members' security in China.

Rehman's wife is one of at least dozens, perhaps hundreds, of Uighur wives of Pakistani men who have disappeared since April 2017 into China's internment camps,according to estimates by their spouses. It is unclear how many children of such unions have also been seized. Rights groups estimate as many as 1 million Uighurs and other minorities are detained in these camps, with the aim of stripping away their ethnic identity, suppressing their Islamic faith and ensuring their loyalty to China.

The Pakistani men initially hoped quiet lobbying to Pakistani officials in Islamabad and at the Pakistani Embassy in Beijing would free their families. But seeing no change after more than a year of effort, they began speaking out to Pakistani and international media in recent months, hoping that greater attention would lead to the release of their wives.

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Hameed, a 39-year-old clothing exporter, spends time in this room at home in Pakistan, unable to renew his visa to China. His Uighur wife was detained in January. Hameed says his wife was caring for her mother, who died while she was in detention. His wife was released for six hours for her mother's funeral, guarded by two female security officials, and then was returned to her camp.

Diaa Hadid/NPR
They are also prompted by a new fear: that their children, trapped in China, risk being taken away to state-run orphanages. The children are vulnerable because many of them are Chinese citizens. Many of the Pakistani men did not naturalize their children. They believed that before the crackdown, there was no need. Now, they say, Chinese authorities are not allowing the children to leave the country — and are taking them away on the pretext that their parents are not present.

"Children whose mothers and fathers aren't present — they take them to orphanages," says Javeid, a 62-year-old Pakistani businessman who says his wife was seized last October. His two sons are Chinese nationals and they are being raised for now by his wife's siblings. "I am worried, I am worried."


Despite a close, seven-decade relationship, Pakistan appears reluctant to push the matter with China. Pakistan is deeply vulnerable. It is seeking a bailout from the International Monetary Fund to avert economic collapse. Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan traveled to Beijing in early November to seek China's assistance and request billions of dollars in aid. China has already loaned Pakistan about $2 billion to stabilize foreign currencyreserves. Pakistan is also a key recipient of loans from China's sprawling, global Belt and Road Initiative, with investments in infrastructure and energy projects worth more than $60 billion.

"It's quite a delicate juncture for Pakistan, economically," says Andrew Small of the German Marshall Fund of the United States and author of The China-Pakistan Axis: Asia's New Geopolitics. There is not "going to be a huge amount of appetite to open another really difficult front with China."

Underscoring those sensitivities, Pakistani officials declined to comment for this story. So did Lijian Zhao, the Chinese embassy's deputy chief of mission in Pakistan.


Despite close China-Pakistan relations, the Uighur wives appear to be specifically targeted because they married Pakistanis, says Maya Wang, the China senior researcher for Human Rights Watch. A key category of Uighurs being detained are those who have had contact with citizens of 26 countries, most of which are Muslim-majority, including Pakistan, she says.

Chinese officials suspect they could be influenced by their Muslim spouses. While they are abroad, they are suspected of agitating for Uighur independence, propagating Islam or aligning with militant groups, according to Chinese state media.

"Spouses of Pakistanis are being detained under this kind of broad idea that 'we need to cast a wide net to catch everyone who might be susceptible to so-called extremism,' " says Wang.

The Pakistani husbands insist their wives have been caught in that wide net without justification. One Pakistani man, Ilyas, a car parts trader, says his wife worked in a children's shop in a Xinjiang mall. The wife of Hameed, a clothing exporter, was caring for her disabled mother, who died after Hameed's wife was sent into detention. She was released for six hours for her mother's funeral, guarded by two female security officials, and then was returned to her camp.

Rehman's wife was a stay-at-home mom. He met her while he was studying medicine in Xinjiang and says they moved to Pakistan so he could work as a doctor in a hospital.

Rehman says he and his wife didn't know from Pakistan that there was a crackdown in Xinjiang. It wasn't the kind of thing that Uighurs would tell each other on heavily monitored phone lines, he says.

"If I knew, she would never have gone," he laments.

Their younger son has Pakistani citizenship, so after the older boy was detained, Rehman took the baby back to Pakistan, where he is being raised by Rehman's mother.

Javeid says his wife was also his accountant. They have two sons and had settled in Xinjiang, running export businesses and halal restaurants.

_mg_3095_slide-463c2f3d340eee7dea3676e2c5bc01b680120929-s800-c85.jpg

Javeid, a 62-year-old Pakistani businessman, says his Uighur wife was seized last October. His two sons are Chinese nationals and are being raised by his wife's siblings. He fears they will be taken away to an orphanage on the pretext that their parents are not present.

Diaa Hadid/NPR
Last year, he says, Chinese security officials began knocking on their door late at night to interrogate them every few weeks: "'When did you get married? Why did you marry?' They asked about my passport, her identity card," he says. "Who am I calling? What am I doing?"

Javeid avoided praying in Xinjiang mosques, fearing Chinese security officials who had questioned him about his Muslim prayer habits. During the month of Ramadan, when Muslims fast from sunrise to sunset, the couple ate their pre-dawn meals in the dark, fearing that if their non-Muslim neighbors saw the lights on, they might report the family for fasting.

"If you turn on the light, then I have a problem," Javeid recalls his wife telling him.

Last October, during a visit to Pakistan, Javeid received a call from his wife. She was phoning him from a police station, crying.

"This may be the last time we talk," she told him. "I will not come back."

She was sent to an internment camp. Their neighbors took in the children, who were later shuffled off to his wife's siblings.

Javeid returned to Xinjiang, where police allowed him to call his wife from the station.

"I asked her, 'What are you doing?' and she said, 'We are just singing, dancing,' " Javeid recalls — songs about the Communist Party and the Chinese leadership.

They were learning Mandarin, he recalls her saying. But he says his wife already speaks fluent Mandarin. He arranged clothes for her — two pants and jackets. To comply with internment rules, a tailor replaced all the zippers with cloth ties.


In Xinjiang, Javeid found it difficult to continue his businesses. He couldn't get the right permits. His mobile phone was blocked. Chinese authorities refused to renew his visa. He had to return to Pakistan. On his last day in China, in August 2017, he drove his children to school.

"I told them, 'I'm going to Kashgar for business,' " he says, referring to a city in Xinjiang. "I'll come back in two weeks and I'll bring you some toys," he told them, knowing he would not be able to keep the promise.

Remembering this, Javeid bursts into tears. He has never spoken to his children again. China's Uighurs can be detained if they have contact with Muslim foreigners — even their own parents — so a non-Uighur Chinese friend passes messages between Javeid and his in-laws and children.

Most recently, his friend told him to send $500 to stop his children from being taken to an orphanage. Javeid wasn't sure if the money was a bribe.

"You can't ask too many questions," he says.

As a Pakistani, he was helpless, he says. He paid up.

"China is an elephant," he says. "Pakistan is the ant."








 
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how about they start marrying women from Pakistan?
True. Fact is China is coming hard on Uighur Muslims. The Chinese athiests regard Islam as greater threat then even Americans. Specifically with referance to Pakistan they are not prepared to see their country go through what the likes of TLP did in Pakistan recently. In the past Chinese CCP caused the death of 100,000s of their own people during the Cultural Revolution and millions more were imprisoned in camps.

If CCP can do that to their own people locking millions of Uighur Muslims is easy for them. The fact is CCP will drag China to be a superpower one way or other. And thus far they have been fantastically successful. No way will they risk trouble like we see in Pakistan. China can see the mess Pakistan is.

For Pakistan it is very, very simple. We have enemies eveywhere. One of the few strategic allies Pakistan has is China. which is why every leader since Bhutto has treated Beijing so important. Recently we had Nawaz swanning with Xi Jinping with the $60 CPEC. Now we had IK go to Beijing. So the question for Pakistan is simple. It's simple choice between -

  • 500 retards who could not keept it zipped and their Uighur Muslim spouses
  • emerging superpower China
Pakistani officials know this. Chinese are extremely sensitive about their internal matters will not accept lectures from a country like Pakistan that depends on them and that is in a right mess. For this reason no govenment [Nawaz, Zardari, Imran Khan] will say anything about this issue. But would you risk Chinese friendship for 500 punks?
 
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True. Fact is China is coming hard on Uighur Muslims. The Chinese athiests regard Islam as greater threat then even Americans. Specifically with referance to Pakistan they are not prepared to see their country go through what the likes of TLP did in Pakistan recently. In the past Chinese CCP caused the death of 100,000s of their own people during the Cultural Revolution and millions more were imprisoned in camps.

If CCP can do that to their own people locking millions of Uighur Muslims is easy for them. The fact is CCP will drag China to be a superpower one way or other. And thus far they have been fantastically successful. No way will they risk trouble like we see in Pakistan. China can see the mess Pakistan is.

For Pakistan it is very, very simple. We have enemies eveywhere. One of the few strategic allies Pakistan has is China. which is why every leader since Bhutto has treated Beijing so important. Recently we had Nawaz swanning with Xi Jinping with the $60 CPEC. Now we had IK go to Beijing. So the question for Pakistan is simple. It's simple choice between -

  • 500 retards who could not keept it zipped and their Uighur Muslim spouses
  • emerging superpower China
Pakistani officials know this. Chinese are extremely sensitive about their internal matters will not accept lectures from a country like Pakistan that depends on them and that is in a right mess. For this reason no govenment [Nawaz, Zardari, Imran Khan] will say anything about this issue. But would you risk Chinese friendship for 500 punks?
nope
 
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Last year, the Chinese wife of a Pakistani man traveled back home to China with their two children. She wanted to introduce her younger boy, 18 months old, to her mom.

But after she landed in China's northwestern region of Xinjiang, she was detained, says her husband, a doctor named Rehman. His wife is a Uighur Muslim, a member of a minority group that has been targeted in a Chinese crackdown.

Security officials left their sons at their grandmother's house. Weeks later, they returned and took away the older boy, age 6.


The security officials "admitted him to a Chinese orphanage school," says Rehman. From what he's understood, the orphanage is meant to raise the children in Chinese culture. "They don't want the children to have Pakistani or Uighur customs. They want the children to become Chinese," he says. "It's not a normal school. They teach them, they feed them, but they don't allow the children to see their parents."

Rehman hasn't heard from his wife or older son since he took them to the airport in Pakistan in July.

"It's a very difficult time," he says, pursing his lips and holding back tears. "My family has been broken."


For decades, there have been marriages and business ties between Pakistanis and Uighurs from China's Muslim-majority Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region. All that has been shattered by China's crackdown on its Uighur minority.

NPR spoke with six men whose Uighur wives have been taken away in the past year and a half. NPR is withholding full names and identifying details of most of the men because they fear for their family members' security in China.

Rehman's wife is one of at least dozens, perhaps hundreds, of Uighur wives of Pakistani men who have disappeared since April 2017 into China's internment camps,according to estimates by their spouses. It is unclear how many children of such unions have also been seized. Rights groups estimate as many as 1 million Uighurs and other minorities are detained in these camps, with the aim of stripping away their ethnic identity, suppressing their Islamic faith and ensuring their loyalty to China.

The Pakistani men initially hoped quiet lobbying to Pakistani officials in Islamabad and at the Pakistani Embassy in Beijing would free their families. But seeing no change after more than a year of effort, they began speaking out to Pakistani and international media in recent months, hoping that greater attention would lead to the release of their wives.

_mg_3037-6aa46d7237089254692a409bc754477412fa4277-s800-c85.jpg

Hameed, a 39-year-old clothing exporter, spends time in this room at home in Pakistan, unable to renew his visa to China. His Uighur wife was detained in January. Hameed says his wife was caring for her mother, who died while she was in detention. His wife was released for six hours for her mother's funeral, guarded by two female security officials, and then was returned to her camp.

Diaa Hadid/NPR
They are also prompted by a new fear: that their children, trapped in China, risk being taken away to state-run orphanages. The children are vulnerable because many of them are Chinese citizens. Many of the Pakistani men did not naturalize their children. They believed that before the crackdown, there was no need. Now, they say, Chinese authorities are not allowing the children to leave the country — and are taking them away on the pretext that their parents are not present.

"Children whose mothers and fathers aren't present — they take them to orphanages," says Javeid, a 62-year-old Pakistani businessman who says his wife was seized last October. His two sons are Chinese nationals and they are being raised for now by his wife's siblings. "I am worried, I am worried."


Despite a close, seven-decade relationship, Pakistan appears reluctant to push the matter with China. Pakistan is deeply vulnerable. It is seeking a bailout from the International Monetary Fund to avert economic collapse. Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan traveled to Beijing in early November to seek China's assistance and request billions of dollars in aid. China has already loaned Pakistan about $2 billion to stabilize foreign currencyreserves. Pakistan is also a key recipient of loans from China's sprawling, global Belt and Road Initiative, with investments in infrastructure and energy projects worth more than $60 billion.

"It's quite a delicate juncture for Pakistan, economically," says Andrew Small of the German Marshall Fund of the United States and author of The China-Pakistan Axis: Asia's New Geopolitics. There is not "going to be a huge amount of appetite to open another really difficult front with China."

Underscoring those sensitivities, Pakistani officials declined to comment for this story. So did Lijian Zhao, the Chinese embassy's deputy chief of mission in Pakistan.


Despite close China-Pakistan relations, the Uighur wives appear to be specifically targeted because they married Pakistanis, says Maya Wang, the China senior researcher for Human Rights Watch. A key category of Uighurs being detained are those who have had contact with citizens of 26 countries, most of which are Muslim-majority, including Pakistan, she says.

Chinese officials suspect they could be influenced by their Muslim spouses. While they are abroad, they are suspected of agitating for Uighur independence, propagating Islam or aligning with militant groups, according to Chinese state media.

"Spouses of Pakistanis are being detained under this kind of broad idea that 'we need to cast a wide net to catch everyone who might be susceptible to so-called extremism,' " says Wang.

The Pakistani husbands insist their wives have been caught in that wide net without justification. One Pakistani man, Ilyas, a car parts trader, says his wife worked in a children's shop in a Xinjiang mall. The wife of Hameed, a clothing exporter, was caring for her disabled mother, who died after Hameed's wife was sent into detention. She was released for six hours for her mother's funeral, guarded by two female security officials, and then was returned to her camp.

Rehman's wife was a stay-at-home mom. He met her while he was studying medicine in Xinjiang and says they moved to Pakistan so he could work as a doctor in a hospital.

Rehman says he and his wife didn't know from Pakistan that there was a crackdown in Xinjiang. It wasn't the kind of thing that Uighurs would tell each other on heavily monitored phone lines, he says.

"If I knew, she would never have gone," he laments.

Their younger son has Pakistani citizenship, so after the older boy was detained, Rehman took the baby back to Pakistan, where he is being raised by Rehman's mother.

Javeid says his wife was also his accountant. They have two sons and had settled in Xinjiang, running export businesses and halal restaurants.

_mg_3095_slide-463c2f3d340eee7dea3676e2c5bc01b680120929-s800-c85.jpg

Javeid, a 62-year-old Pakistani businessman, says his Uighur wife was seized last October. His two sons are Chinese nationals and are being raised by his wife's siblings. He fears they will be taken away to an orphanage on the pretext that their parents are not present.

Diaa Hadid/NPR
Last year, he says, Chinese security officials began knocking on their door late at night to interrogate them every few weeks: "'When did you get married? Why did you marry?' They asked about my passport, her identity card," he says. "Who am I calling? What am I doing?"

Javeid avoided praying in Xinjiang mosques, fearing Chinese security officials who had questioned him about his Muslim prayer habits. During the month of Ramadan, when Muslims fast from sunrise to sunset, the couple ate their pre-dawn meals in the dark, fearing that if their non-Muslim neighbors saw the lights on, they might report the family for fasting.

"If you turn on the light, then I have a problem," Javeid recalls his wife telling him.

Last October, during a visit to Pakistan, Javeid received a call from his wife. She was phoning him from a police station, crying.

"This may be the last time we talk," she told him. "I will not come back."

She was sent to an internment camp. Their neighbors took in the children, who were later shuffled off to his wife's siblings.

Javeid returned to Xinjiang, where police allowed him to call his wife from the station.

"I asked her, 'What are you doing?' and she said, 'We are just singing, dancing,' " Javeid recalls — songs about the Communist Party and the Chinese leadership.

They were learning Mandarin, he recalls her saying. But he says his wife already speaks fluent Mandarin. He arranged clothes for her — two pants and jackets. To comply with internment rules, a tailor replaced all the zippers with cloth ties.


In Xinjiang, Javeid found it difficult to continue his businesses. He couldn't get the right permits. His mobile phone was blocked. Chinese authorities refused to renew his visa. He had to return to Pakistan. On his last day in China, in August 2017, he drove his children to school.

"I told them, 'I'm going to Kashgar for business,' " he says, referring to a city in Xinjiang. "I'll come back in two weeks and I'll bring you some toys," he told them, knowing he would not be able to keep the promise.

Remembering this, Javeid bursts into tears. He has never spoken to his children again. China's Uighurs can be detained if they have contact with Muslim foreigners — even their own parents — so a non-Uighur Chinese friend passes messages between Javeid and his in-laws and children.

Most recently, his friend told him to send $500 to stop his children from being taken to an orphanage. Javeid wasn't sure if the money was a bribe.

"You can't ask too many questions," he says.

As a Pakistani, he was helpless, he says. He paid up.

"China is an elephant," he says. "Pakistan is the ant."








I am not liking it, and I must say with a heavy heart that we Pakistanis dont have a good rocord of protecting our sisters and wivies from abduction.
Govt kch nai karygi, khud kch kersaktay ho to kerlo. Behtar hoga keh chup kerjao ya merjao. I really have wet eyes over it, but cant do anything.
 
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I am not liking it
It's not a question of liking it. It's reality. Would you want to raise this issue with the most powerful man on earth? To gauge the reaction why not talk about this issue with Chinese members on PDF and see the reaction?

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What we must undestand is that the Chinese state under CCP will do whatever it considers as neccessary to turn China into a supoerpower. So far CCP has done a marvelous job compared to what the Pakistani state has done over the preceding 70 year. Both Pakistan and PRC were set up about the same time in late 1940s. While China is on the road to becoming a global power that threatens US dominance Pakistan is bankrupt and often called a failed state. So clearly Chinese are not about to take lessons or lecture from Pakistan or anybody else.

On the subject of Uighur Muslims the CPC reaction has been typical to what it has always done. Heavy handed and iron fisted. Back in 1989 CPC brought tanks in Biejing against protestors. So we can imagine the reaction to Uighur Muslim problem. CPC will certainly not act like the Pakistani state against Mullahists of TLP by running away from them and letting the country burn. If needed CPC will lock up millions in camps. And it has. furthermore CPC is in process of wiping out Mullahism.



 
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Bro, you dont me :-). I would, whatever.
I know. So did Mullah Omar's Taliban in 2001, so did independent Chechen republic in 1996. Both today are crushed. Exactly how Pakistan could afford to irritate China while it has Trump, Modi baying for blood is not a question keyboard warriors need to worry about.

You of course think it's indicative of balls to provoke Trump, Modi and Xi Jinping. I call that madness.
 
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What we must undestand is that the Chinese state under CCP will do whatever it considers as neccessary to turn China into a supoerpower. So far CCP has done a marvelous job compared to what the Pakistani state has done over the preceding 70 year. Both Pakistan and PRC were set up about the same time in late 1940s. While China is on the road to becoming a global power that threatens US dominance Pakistan is bankrupt and often called a failed state. So clearly Chinese are not about to take lessons or lecture from Pakistan or anybody else.

You are way to bit harsh on Pakistan, its not fair. A fair comparison would be China and India, I would replace word Pakistan here with India. Both have about same population, both are huge in-terms of land territory. India had a fair 71 years of democracy, yet it is shit compared to China. 30 Crore people (300 million) are under poverty line in India.

Pakistan never had to the chance to grow. We had dictatorship, followed by corrupted politicians, continuous wars with India(6-7 times our population + huge land mass), on top of that Russian war on Afghanistan and the American war on Afghanistan.

Meanwhile India had a free pass, why is it still shit compared to China? Just comparing Indian GDP PPP per capita with Pakistan and China, just shows how laughable their situation is. Do you see any of these Indians here contemplating on the situation they are in? Nopes, they are in delusion and their government keeps them in that delusion. 71 years of democracy man ffs...

I mean even with all these hardships we are financially almost equivalent to the Indians living in India. All in All its not fair, you comparing Pakistan with China. We have so much potential of growth, just need time and proper leadership.
 
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I mean even with all these hardships we are financially almost equivalent to the Indians living in India. All in All its not fair, you comparing Pakistan with China. We have so much potential of growth, just need time and proper leadership.
I am the one who continously reminds Indians of this fact. I have opened many threads about this subject. But my point was drawn with referance to the Uighur Muslim issue. Pakistan simply is not in a position to question China over the abuse in Sinkiang. That was my point.
 
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China is Not stupid and have realized the danger. But they should make law so that no one could blame them.

it is hilarious that no hyenas barks. Had it been Islamic IRAN instead of China they all would have come out with their unending barks. :lol:
 
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Fake news...these people are paid by Western agencies to create distrust about China in Pakistan
 
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