Mustafa Kamal and his Pak Sar Zameen Party-My analysis

[bazil]

Its because the Rangers are delibrately trying to push them to the wall. At one time, the Rangers continue to arrest their office bearers and torture them to death and at the same time DG Ranger is perfectly fine with the Anees QaimKhani the person who was held responsible for baldia town incident. Such things would only lend MQM more sympathies of their voters and they see PSP as beptised MQM members.

Dont the MQM RAW and money laundering revelations impact their voting criteria?? plus now they have another muhajir(ethnic) party in the form of the PSP which is clean for the moment.

 

[Zaneesh852]

Dont the MQM RAW and money laundering revelations impact their voting criteria?? plus now they have another muhajir(ethnic) party in the form of the PSP which is clean for the moment.

The release of confessional videos, killing by torture and patronizing earlier PTI and now PSP are not playing good for distancing MQM's vote bank from the party.

 

[pak-marine]

A personal analysis based on happenings.

1. Undoubtedly Altaf Hussain is ill and may leave for eternal adobe anytime
2. AH is involved in money laundering and Dr Imran Farooq murder
3. MQM has tried its level best to become national party, but due has not been able to its founding concept despite changing its name and collaborating with electables in other areas of Pakistan
4. MQM cannot get of maintaining militant wing.
5. Irrespective of what their leaders say MQM cannot be absolved from being pioneering bhatta culture in Karachi.
6. Recent revelations of its undeniable connections with RAW may result in banning of the party.

If this happens how will those survive who have been minting money being in MQM, through government contracts when in official seat, bhatta if not part of government and international funding for continuing anti-state activities. Besides many of those will face serious criminal charges.

What is the solution?

Mustafa Kamal backed by Malik Riaz funding. A person who has been projected as best Mayor Karachi had.

Mustafa Kamal's manifesto

1. No party flag only Pakistan flag. Personally speaking by law making party flags should be prohibited and displaying photographs of their corrupt leaders' (dead or alive) in government offices should not be allowed, when they make it to public offices. Generally when talking of democracy USA is considered a bench mark. No need to mention, during political gatherings only flag which is seen is American flag.
2. Mustafa Kamal uses a deceptive name for his party that is Pak Sirzameen Party. This name should not be allowed for a political party as national anthem starts with this word and it can mislead naive citizens.
3. Mustafa Kamal advocates condoning MQM criminals by shifting blame on AH. As if these criminals were so naive, not to know what they are doing. He becomes emotional and concerned about the families of dead criminals but has no remorse for those who have been killed or burnt alive by these criminals.
4. Mustafa Kamal has Anis Qaimkhani by his side, giving a clear message that the militant wing of MQM is now with him.
5. Mustafa Kamal not condeming anyone in MQM except Altaf Hussain and some individuals of London secretariat.
6. Mustafa Kamal was from a humble background working as telephone operator at 90. He has not been in any worth mentioning position in his educational or professional career. Today he is roaming around in a caravan of Prados and Land cruisers. From Kakhpati to Lakhpati rather Arabpati. Five years salary cumulatively does not qualify him to drive a Corolla what to talk of luxury jeeps, especially when 50% of the salary from official position goes into party fund.
7. Zameer Ki Baidari relates only to seek pardon for criminals. A real remorse would have called for a confession followed by apology for the crimes committed, return of looted wealth and surrender to LEAs.

Bottom line is Mustafa Kamal has been pitched by MQM itself and the time is not far away when complete MQM will be part of this new party. Most MQM members will leave before AH is arraigned or deceased.

It will be same old wine in new bottle.

Is there a viable solution ? What should karachietes should do. ? Vote for jamat e islami , pti , ppp , noon leage , fazlur rehman. ?

 

[Panther 57]

Is there a viable solution ? What should karachietes should do. ? Vote for jamat e islami , pti , ppp , noon leage , fazlur rehman. ?

bring people from their own mohallas

 

[pak-marine]

bring people from their own mohallas

Really thats your analysis , i was hoping for some thing better

 

[Panther 57]

Really thats your analysis , i was hoping for some thing better

Following these parties would result in same goons again and again. Either people bring their own people from each constituency or wait for the time when hundreds of thousand bodies will be lying on streets with no one to pick up.

We need to change the electoral system, unless that is done country will always be deprived of honest, talented and loyal leadership.

 

[pak-marine]

Following these parties would result in same goons again and again. Either people bring their own people from each constituency or wait for the time when hundreds of thousand bodies will be lying on streets with no one to pick up.

We need to change the electoral system, unless that is done country will always be deprived of honest, talented and loyal leadership.

These people are from respective constituencies (mohallas) , the picture u draw is a scary situation if this is correct than Only option seems is khi gives her mandate to back to religious parties like JI , JUP , ST & MWM . As mohajir politics or the guys from the mohalahs are taking us no where.

 

[weqi]

MQM k logo ko khas to per karachi ki awam ko yeh yaad dilanay ki shadeed zaroorat hay kay "aap kay baroo nay qurbania di kis liye sharab pi ker taqreer kernay k liye ya islami usoolo per amal pera honay k liye "

i have listened from many urdu speakings k eid ka ijtimat may aur Delhi jama masjid may musalmano ki akseryat ijtimai dua mangti thi ya allah hame zameen per aik khita to aisa day kay hum tere deen per khul ker amal kersaky

what we have to do is re memorize there commitment with Allah and this country also

this is liability if disown then AH or any other will be imposed to you

 

[Panther 57]

These people are from respective constituencies (mohallas) , the picture u draw is a scary situation if this is correct than Only option seems is khi gives her mandate to back to religious parties like JI , JUP , ST & MWM . As mohajir politics or the guys from the mohalahs are taking us no where.

Even Mullas are not taking us anywhere everyone has their own vested interest. And it is not just a sweeping statement. A cursory look on each person sitting in PA or NA speaks of blatant truth. Rickshaw walas are not owners of XYZ Houses, telephone operators are roaming in bullet proof land cruisers, waiters are having prados waiting outside their houses. Dilapidated house becomes oasis after the resident become minister for baldiat. these mafias have to be removed or the day is not far when anarchy will take place and then there is no turning back.

One of the indications is statement of Qaim Ali Shah a few years back and Ishaq Dar statement in Budget session where he advocates eating poultry if pulses have gone expensive. Does it ring a bell. Before French revolution similar was the answer of Royal family when they were told that common man is unable to afford bread. Royal family suggested eating cake. (exactly same thing said by Qaim Ali Shah few years back).

 

[pak-marine]

Even Mullas are not taking us anywhere everyone has their own vested interest. And it is not just a sweeping statement. A cursory look on each person sitting in PA or NA speaks of blatant truth. Rickshaw walas are not owners of XYZ Houses, telephone operators are roaming in bullet proof land cruisers, waiters are having prados waiting outside their houses. Dilapidated house becomes oasis after the resident become minister for baldiat. these mafias have to be removed or the day is not far when anarchy will take place and then there is no turning back.

One of the indications is statement of Qaim Ali Shah a few years back and Ishaq Dar statement in Budget session where he advocates eating poultry if pulses have gone expensive. Does it ring a bell. Before French revolution similar was the answer of Royal family when they were told that common man is unable to afford bread. Royal family suggested eating cake. (exactly same thing said by Qaim Ali Shah few years back).

I can imagine how far from reality elite (Leaders incl MPA & MNA's ) of PML and PPP are ! its the jagirdarana wadera system to be blamed , when people in rural pakistan are slave labor to selected few landlords there cant be any change.

but i also I know for a fact that MQM MNA's and MPA' come from local mohalas lower and middleclass thus why they have support in Karachi (as the representatives Are not imported from some where else) If we can offer talks and mazakrat to Taliban's who butchered 70-80k Pakistanis compared to them MQM are saints!

So a truth and reconciliation process as a solution may be thats the way forward.

 

[Panther 57]

but i also I know for a fact that MQM MNA's and MPA' come from local mohalas lower and middleclass thus why they have support in Karachi (as the representatives Are not imported from some where else) If we can offer talks and mazakrat to Taliban's who butchered 70-80k Pakistanis compared to them MQM are saints!

So a truth and reconciliation process as a solution may be thats the way forward.

My friend they as saint as Taliban and as butcher as them. You probably do not know inside game. MQM has failed the people and slowly losing their grip on people. They have been extorting from the same people who voted for them. Today Karachi is in water problem because of them. They were playing ping pong with PPP. they would stop KSWB water to support tanker mafia. Tanker Mafia pays homage to Bilawal house. Whats there for MQM in it. They charged handsome amounts for few hours of KSWB water to the rightful recipients.

Mustafa Kamal is now singing song of condone target killers and blaming those who made them so. He forgets that each target killer is/was an adult. Joining MQM was their choice and after joining killing people was also by choice. on the day of judgement they will be questioned for the killings they did not altaf hussain only.

MQM has ruled this city for very long but hasnt been able to deliver a good garbage collection system, what to talk of anything else. Very poor show in past so many years besides criminal activities.

 

[Arsalan]

So in short @Panther 57 you are saying that it is MQM taking a "Ganga Snan", period.

 

[Panther 57]

So in short @Panther 57 you are saying that it is MQM taking a "Ganga Snan", period.

Exactly its the same old wine in new bottle. They are now abandoning the ship with its dying captain.

 

[Arsalan]

Exactly its the same old wine in new bottle. They are now abandoning the ship with its dying captain.

Well i have not been following this new party that closely, personally i do fell that Mustafa Kamal is a good administrator but that's about it!! Dont know much more so it was good to read your views.
One thing however that i would like to add is i do not think it will really matter. Whether this new part is actually something revolutionary or the same wine as you say, it wont matter much. This party is never going to develop a following so large to have any say or influence at national level. I see its area of influence smaller then that of MQM and that party was also mainly limited to Karachi alone. Also will like to point out that there are so many players in Karachi now that it wont be as easy as it was for MQM once to dominate Karachi! All in all, whether good or bad, the effect of this new party wont be far reaching!

 

[pak-marine]

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MQM has ruled this city for very long but hasnt been able to deliver a good garbage collection system, what to talk of anything else. Very poor show in past so many years besides criminal activities.

Why do they keep winning elections why do the people vote for them again and again and again and again.