Muslims Still Consigned to Gujarat’s Slums 15 Years After 2002 Riots

[Robinhood Pandey]

What choices do they have?

Choices they have in their control.

like family planning. managing their resources. thinking from a larger prospective.

 

[ashok mourya]

So these Muslims are not Indian national and not the responsibility of Indian government no equal right even equal to pundits who are from disputed territory .So Muslims are 200 million should unite and should get their homeland because Hindus will not accept them for their inferiority complex of 1000 years Muslim rule.

They have given there share if land in Pakistan and Bangladesh. They can move there and enjoy Pakistani hospitality like they still called migrated Muslims as Muhajirs and second class Pakistani.

No body talks about 40000 Hindu riot victims of Gujarat and 300 dead.These NGO s only selling Muslim plight to attract foreign donations.

 

[prashantazazel]

What should they do? give it up?

Why pursue an identity which brings them misery?

 

[Mugwop]

Why pursue an identity which brings them misery?

It's not their identity that's bringing them misery.

 

[Mahmood-ur-Rehman]

They have given there share if land in Pakistan and Bangladesh. They can move there and enjoy Pakistani hospitality like they still called migrated Muslims as Muhajirs and second class Pakistani.

Migrated Muslims or Muhajirs are not second class Pakistani rather they equally own Pakistan.Out of 70year since Independence Muhajirs ruled Pakistan about 53 years.Again in Muslims being Muhagir is a pride so that's why they are keeping their Title .If Allah give us resources we would love to absorb our Indian Muslim in Pakistan to give them prosper future.

 

[Jackdaws]

After the riots of 1993 in Bombay, a lot of Muslims did move to this area known as Mumbra. While it has challenges, it is certainly not as bad as the areas shown in Gujarat.

Also, as can be seen by the redevelopment of the Bohra enclave in South Bombay, it is possible to revamp the areas.

http://www.firstpost.com/india/mumbais-bhendi-bazaar-revamp-3401340.html

The ministries are not going to do anything - not for the Hindus or Muslims. Take the onus and redevelop the land.

 

[Grevion]

India has moved on so do Indians.
These people needs to stop playing the victim card and grab the next opportunity they have instead of hoping that Allah will provide them with everything.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Correct...what has Pakistan to do with Indian Muslims? It is better Pakistanis not poke in India's affairs.

@On topic...15 years is long time...the government should have resettled them by now...people who are living there are living in appalling conditions.

EXACTLY........Either way, both indian so called "Muslims" and Pakistanis are as relevant to eachother as someone from the Congo is to someone from Germany.

Correct...what has Pakistan to do with Indian Muslims? It is better Pakistanis not poke in India's affairs.

@On topic...15 years is long time...the government should have resettled them by now...people who are living there are living in appalling conditions.

 

[The_Showstopper]

All over India most of them live in slum.. Why making fuss about it..

Before riots they did not live in slums. Go show your ignorance at some other place...

 

[El Sidd]

They are all anti state elements as far as India is concerned.

But they can be better handled

 

[waz]

the usual browbeating, nothing new I guess.

In god I trust, everything else I trust in statistics.
All one has to do is to take out statistics of all countries in the world and see which countries have the minorities done well & where they have not. I am willing to take any bet from anyone, my theory would triumph yours

When statistics stare at you, there is no hiding, it's pretty pedantic to match our theories with our narrative at this point.

You can call it "browbeating", you were just called out for your bigotry....
Right the countries where minorities do very well would be the likes of Nordic states, Canada and others. So your point is?
Your "theory" tells refugees to move elsewhere and to convert to the religion of the majority. I do not believe any such theory.

 

[prashantazazel]

It's not their identity that's bringing them misery.

Their's and their enemies/oppressors .

 

[Sky lord]

countries where minorities do very well

Actually most minorities in India do quite well - better than Hindus - including Parsis, Sikhs, Jains, Jews, Christians,Baha'i, Ismaili, Bohra Even most South Indian Muslims do well and are on average better educated and more prosperous than the majority population.

The issue is north Indian Muslims. It is IMO a cultural issue. And it needs to be addressed by north Indian Muslims themselves. I am not trying to blame anyone here, but there is a culture in some parts of India that is not , shall we say, conducive to getting ahead in the modern world.

It is not always evil intent by society at large - sometimes it is - but more often it's just inefficient government - and sometimes it's just that people need to prioritize what they need to prioritize.

In this case, I suspect the last two - inefficient local government combined with an overly conservative population that is not modernizing as quickly as others around them and hence less able to help themselves. I seriously doubt the evil intentions the OP is trying to pretend it is. This is not to say that there is no casual discrimination - there is - I've seen it myself. However, there is no concerted evil intent to keep all Muslims in slums or whatever! And I think it is mischievous of the OP to suggest such.

My 2 cents.

 

[The_Showstopper]

I seriously doubt the evil intentions the OP is trying to pretend it is. This is not to say that there is no casual discrimination - there is - I've seen it myself. However, there is no concerted evil intent to keep all Muslims in slums or whatever! And I think it is mischievous of the OP to suggest such.

Oh the evil intentions.

No concerted evil intent? Really!!!

Don't tell anyone you're a Muslim - Times of india
In Modi's Gujarat, Muslims Struggle to be respected by Hindus | HuffPost
Juhapura residents object to proposed waste dumpsite - Ahmedabad
AMC biased against Muslim areas: PIL - Ahmedabad Mirror
Worlds apart in a divided city - The Hindu
More neglect in store: No BRTS for Muslim-dominated Juhapura?
Ahmedabad's Muslim area branded as Pakistan by Gujarat police
What Juhapura Tells Us About Being Muslim in Modi's India

Apart from the rosy "sermons" you don't really have anything to contradict the claim made by the article. So go fool someone else.

 

[Sky lord]

Oh the evil intentions.

No concerted evil intent? Really!!!

Don't tell anyone you're a Muslim - Times of india
In Modi's Gujarat, Muslims Struggle to be respected by Hindus | HuffPost
Juhapura residents object to proposed waste dumpsite - Ahmedabad
AMC biased against Muslim areas: PIL - Ahmedabad Mirror
Worlds apart in a divided city - The Hindu
More neglect in store: No BRTS for Muslim-dominated Juhapura?
Ahmedabad's Muslim area branded as Pakistan by Gujarat police
What Juhapura Tells Us About Being Muslim in Modi's India

Apart from the rosy "sermons" you don't really have anything to contradict the claim made by the article. So go fool someone else.

And what sir does that prove?

If I wanted to make a claim that in India men with mustaches and side burns were heavily discriminated against I could weed through newspapers and fill a wall of text on all the incidents that take place where men with mustaches and side burns were victims and build a really good narrative around it. Does that mean anything other than A waste Of time?

India is a poor, badly policed society. There are plenty of horror stories to go around.i could write a wall of links on all the harassment Bihari Hindus face - is that religious discrimination? Do biharis practice a different form of religion to telungus? Same-same for the most part is it not? But culturally different.

Prove to me that Sikhs, Jains, christians, Jews, Parsis, Bohras, etc do worse on average than majority community. Or indeed any religious minority other than North Indian Muslims. If you google you'll find South Indian Muslims are doing just fine.