Muslims kill more Muslims, yet blame west?

[mike2000 is back]

LOL its the evil west that tells them to kill themselves and their own brothers.

 

[Sharpshooter12]

Exactly, just like it were the Africans who were killing more Africans during the slavery era than the Africans killed by the Western powers. No really they were, many kingdoms of Africa waged war for the specific reason of capturing slaves and then selling them to the merchants to be taken to the american colonies. Now you can't blame the West for that, can you?

How many suicide blasts did We Pakistanis faced before the West's WAR ON TERROR began, 1 and how many have we faced since, 426. Of course no western was ever involved in any of these attacks, it was always Muslims killing Muslims.

How many suicide bombings happened in Iraq before invasion, well throughout its history Iraq never faced a single suicide bomber before 2003, and since the invasion the number is more than 2000. Again there was no Western involved in any of these bombings just Muslim killing other Muslims, because that is what we have been doing for the last 1400 years right.

West is innocent and so are its cheerleaders and should never be blamed.

 

[yolo2016]

people will say the U.S gave Muslims the guns and jedi mind tricked them into pulling the trigger


or the explosives, the detonator, and the ideology


but for Islamic terrorists the end justify the means.

Essentially the theme I'm reading here from Pakistani, Iranian and Bangladeshi Muslims is - the muslims are bunch of morons and gullible idiots who will kill each other at the drop of a word given by us Christian Americans.

Because these folks were told that Muslims cannot kill Muslims,. When fed with that line of thought, voila - it has to be Christian American mind control

@Jacob Martin you have to agree with @Stannis Baratheon about how we Americans have superpowers of persuasion at times . Can't you see how we managed to get that islamist to name himself here after a Christian crusader character Stannis Baratheon here Such is our power that we took a radical islamist fool and subjecated him to a Christian name

 

[Jacob Martin]

the wahhabi ideology was brought to power (in KSA) by the means of force, in fact all Arab dictators have been brought to power by west.

your info isn't accurate sir, those Christians whom hezbollah fought with are nothing less than ISIS, you may study about Sabra and Shatila massacre. of course these groups were under support of Israeli regime, so we wont miss the main cause. today many christians in Lebonan support Hezbollah. Hezbollah is a resistant group which only fights against Israeli occupation, and now due to the threat which ISIS has created even inside Lebonan, they have to fight against these scums too. they fight for themselves.Iran is just supporting them. we are vowed to support anybody who fights against imperialism.

Its nice to say that someone is fighting imperialism. What is the alternative that they offer? What is their vision for the future of Lebanon? I understand the dynamics in Lebanon are not always what they seem from the outside, but to the outside world, Lebanon seems like yet another case of a progressive, liberal country lost to the cauldron of Islamic violence. Why should the people of Lebanon have to pay a price for the partisan agenda of Hezbollah? What was so inherently faulty with the democratic process in Lebanon that Hezbollah had to resort to violence in Lebanon? Isn't it true that there were arrest warrants issued against 4 Hezbollah members for the assassination of Rafic Hariri? What did that have to do with anti-imperialism?

Well, of course India can do no wrong and such incidents can only be considered minor. Besides the recent Assam killing just proves more Hindus have killed Hindus.

Look, stop playing this foul game of spreading canards to try and divert from facts. People do kill people. Some of the people who do such killing are Hindus. So according to you that is the same as an infinitely large proportion of cases where the name of Islam is used to kill fellow Muslims as well as others, with people like you trying to cover up for them?

Essentially the theme I'm reading here from Pakistani, Iranian and Bangladeshi Muslims is - the muslims are bunch of morons and gullible idiots who will kill each other at the drop of a word given by us Christian Americans.

Because these folks were told that Muslims cannot kill Muslims,. When fed with that line of thought, voila - it has to be Christian American mind control

@Jacob Martin you have to agree with @Stannis Baratheon about how we Americans have superpowers of persuasion at times . Can't you see how we managed to get that islamist to name himself here after a Christian crusader character Stannis Baratheon here Such is our power that we took a radical islamist fool and subjecated him to a Christian name

Yes, and then there is the other DB who claims that the problem of Islamic fundamentalist violence is just 5 years old. Before that apparently it was all peace and quite. A certain Osama bin Laden is a figment of our collective imagination. Sometimes I cannot figure out whether to get angry at or pity these morons.

And barbarians also use UCAV, bombers, fighter jets to bomb weddings, schools, hospitals and houses. But then again, they are not committing crimes because they are using modern technology.

These thuggish pleas that the whole civilized world has to play by the same rule book as the Islamic Jihadists is comical, to say the least. They are weak, incompetent, ignorant, dimwitted, poor and full of murderous rage. So they fight with IEDs, knives, rocks, AK47s, RDX, Semtex and suicide (Paradise) vests. If they had the technological wherewithal and the resources, they would slaughter ALL they see as their enemies, including children and the elderly, unarmed civilians, pregnant women and your neighborhood cat as well. They would kill anything that moves, in fact. America, and for that matter any half-decent military power such as NATO, Russia, UK, France, China or India are much more discerning and controlled in choosing targets. Yes, innocent lives are lost as well, and that is nothing to be celebrated. But innocent lives being lost in the quest to establish control and rule of law is NOT the same as innocent lives being lost in the cause of spreading chaos, violence and bloodshed for the sake of itself.

You sound every bit like a terrorist sympathizer. People like you are the structure that has provided moral support to Jihadist violence across the world. You should look inside yourself and ask whether you really want to be on the side of forces who present the greatest threat to human civilization today.

 

[mohsen]

Its nice to say that someone is fighting imperialism. What is the alternative that they offer? What is their vision for the future of Lebanon? I understand the dynamics in Lebanon are not always what they seem from the outside, but to the outside world, Lebanon seems like yet another case of a progressive, liberal country lost to the cauldron of Islamic violence. Why should the people of Lebanon have to pay a price for the partisan agenda of Hezbollah? What was so inherently faulty with the democratic process in Lebanon that Hezbollah had to resort to violence in Lebanon? Isn't it true that there were arrest warrants issued against 4 Hezbollah members for the assassination of Rafic Hariri? What did that have to do with anti-imperialism?

starting from the accusations, if U.S had any proof of those alleged hezbollah attack on this and that, they wouldn't hesitate one second to start an anti terror campaign and attack Lebanon, the fact that these propaganda never exceeds their media is due to their empty hands. and to remind you Hezbollah already published the Israeli drone videos which they captured through hacking into their systems, and in these videos this was Israel who was constantly monitoring Rafic Hariri and his movement paths. of course Americans wouldn't want a trial against Israelis, so what they did was to silently backtrack and keep these accusations in their media.

Hezbollah is a political party, do you know what it means? it means people whom you care about are supporting them.
alternative? partisan agenda of Hezbollah? if another country occupies part of your country and a group of people start to fight against them, would you support them or not? I don't know about you, but Lebanese have decided to support them, and only a fool may think Hezbollah would have survived if it didn't have the backbone of people's support.

 

[Schutz]

Humans will always find a reason to kill each other, and as much as I want religion destroyed it would most likely change nothing BUT it might, its the big divider so to speak, bigger than race (unless your an African in the middle east) and it needs to be removed. No matter how many good acts are committed, they are tarnished by every bad one, it was hard for people to like Germans after WW2 for a while and many of the older generation still dont like them and that was all because of one mans brainwashing, religion does this enmasse.

 

[Stannis Baratheon]

Look, stop playing this foul game of spreading canards to try and divert from facts. People do kill people. Some of the people who do such killing are Hindus. So according to you that is the same as an infinitely large proportion of cases where the name of Islam is used to kill fellow Muslims as well as others, with people like you trying to cover up for them?

Islam isn't used to kill Muslims. Even ISIS don't use that. They die because of war. Killing of Shia and Sunni occur because Ba'ath party still holds power in many regions and they are against the government and want to expand their influence.

These thuggish pleas that the whole civilized world has to play by the same rule book as the Islamic Jihadists is comical, to say the least. They are weak, incompetent, ignorant, dimwitted, poor and full of murderous rage. So they fight with IEDs, knives, rocks, AK47s, RDX, Semtex and suicide (Paradise) vests. If they had the technological wherewithal and the resources, they would slaughter ALL they see as their enemies, including children and the elderly, unarmed civilians, pregnant women and your neighborhood cat as well. They would kill anything that moves, in fact. America, and for that matter any half-decent military power such as NATO, Russia, UK, France, China or India are much more discerning and controlled in choosing targets. Yes, innocent lives are lost as well, and that is nothing to be celebrated. But innocent lives being lost in the quest to establish control and rule of law is NOT the same as innocent lives being lost in the cause of spreading chaos, violence and bloodshed for the sake of itself.

You sound every bit like a terrorist sympathizer. People like you are the structure that has provided moral support to Jihadist violence across the world. You should look inside yourself and ask whether you really want to be on the side of forces who present the greatest threat to human civilization today.

If the West didn't have those technological advanced equipment, they would have killed people with those things. BTW, AK-47 is a gun and RDX are explosives (bombs dropped from air contain explosive too) and at the West there are plenty of examples of use of these things. Bombing of hospitals, schools and weddings is also slaughter of innocent men, women, children and elderly too.
You, are right U.S, does choose targets, it specifically chose the Kunduz hospital knowing what it was and that there were no Talibans in there. Where as for the French, their troops raped women and children in CAR. India kills people regularly at Kashmir, your BSF shoot cattle traders in Bangladesh border calling them smugglers but never shoot smugglers who are involved in drug trafficking. Also, India elected a terrorist as a PM.

Also, who gives you the right to set up law in my country, because that's exactly what NATO did.

I am not a terrorist sympathizer, you sir are one who hates Muslims with every bit of energy in you. I am quite sure you support the 100% Hindu India by 2020 plan. In fact there are a lot like you here, otherwise a terrorist such as Modi wouldn't be Prime Minister.

@Jacob Martin you have to agree with @Stannis Baratheon about how we Americans have superpowers of persuasion at times . Can't you see how we managed to get that islamist to name himself here after a Christian crusader character Stannis Baratheon here Such is our power that we took a radical islamist fool and subjecated him to a Christian name

You made yourself a fool. Stannis Baratheon follows the religion of fire created in ASOIAF and not Christianity. But then again an Indian portraying himself as an American is suffering from an ethnicity complexion.

 

[Jacob Martin]

Islam isn't used to kill Muslims. Even ISIS don't use that. They die because of war.

Do you want me to respond to that or laugh at that. What is the fictitious Caliphate that IS has proclaimed? Which religion has a Caliphate, can you tell me that? And IS doesn't use Islam. No doubt, now you will also claim that Al Qaeda, Boko Haraam, Al Shabaab, Taliban et al also don't evoke the name of Islam. Right? Is there any perverse pleasure in sounding like a lunatic that I am missing out on?

Killing of Shia and Sunni occur because Ba'ath party still holds power in many regions and they are against the government and want to expand their influence.

What nonsense have you learnt in life? The Ba'athists, be in Iraq or in Syria, were the only secular forces standing between the citizenry and the savagery of sectarian conflict. What happened in Iraq when the Ba'athists were destroyed? What is happening in Syria now? If the Ba'athists had remained in power in Iraq, it wouldn't have gone down the drain the way it has today.

If the West didn't have those technological advanced equipment, they would have killed people with those things. BTW, AK-47 is a gun and RDX are explosives (bombs dropped from air contain explosive too) and at the West there are plenty of examples of use of these things. Bombing of hospitals, schools and weddings is also slaughter of innocent men, women, children and elderly too.

The question is very simple - if positions were reversed and the Islamic world had recourse to M1 Abrams, Tomahawks, Grim Reapers, B-1/B-2 bombers, precision guided weaponry and a dozen aircraft carriers, where would the wold be. If you think the world is a violent place today, think about what would be if Saudi Arabia, Iran and Pakistan had the same military might as NATO. The world castigates America, and rightly so, for the abuse of military power. But only a lunatic would doubt that if such military might was at the disposal of the Islamic world, the world would be several times worse off. You and I wouldn't be writing long tirades to each other from the safety and comfort of our homes.

But luckily for us, that will never happen. Dimwits with nothing but malice in their heart are unlikely to succeed in today's world. Today, you need technical knowledge and expertise, which a hateful cult is highly unlikely to impart.

As for AK47s and RDX, who makes them? Does the Arab world make them? The Arab world (especially GCC) subsists on the fossils of bio-forms long dead and buried under their soil. If not for that, they would be worse than savages.

You, are right U.S, does choose targets, it specifically chose the Kunduz hospital knowing what it was and that there were no Talibans in there. Where as for the French, their troops raped women and children in CAR. India kills people regularly at Kashmir, your BSF shoot cattle traders in Bangladesh border calling them smugglers but never shoot smugglers who are involved in drug trafficking. Also, India elected a terrorist as a PM.

Blather about cattle traders, hospitals and PMs. Ignored.

Also, who gives you the right to set up law in my country, because that's exactly what NATO did.

I thought your country was Bangladesh? First time saw an Arab false-flagging as a Bangladeshi.

I am not a terrorist sympathizer, you sir are one who hates Muslims with every bit of energy in you. I am quite sure you support the 100% Hindu India by 2020 plan. In fact there are a lot like you here, otherwise a terrorist such as Modi wouldn't be Prime Minister.

I am an atheist. I do not suffer from religious hallucinations of heaven and hell, hell fire and eternal damnation. I object to all religion. But that does not make me indifferent or blind towards the special threat posed by one religion in particular. An ulcer is not the same as a tumor.

 

[yolo2016]

You made yourself a fool. Stannis Baratheon follows the religion of fire created in ASOIAF and not Christianity. But then again an Indian portraying himself as an American is suffering from an ethnicity complexion.

A fictitious plot set on set on basis of christian crusades, even if he believes in the red witch.


Martin invented a few religions for his book series, but they have their roots in real-life faiths. For example, the Faith of the Seven, based on seven aspects of one god, is derived from the Christian Holy Trinity and the Mother, Maiden, and Crone come from Pagan views. Or in Greek mythology, it's the Fates who embody this aspect, while the Father, Smith and Warrior come from "abrahamic" masculine elements. Meanwhile, the Lord of Light, R'hllor, is roughly based on Zoroastrianism and the Cathars (who were destroyed in the Albigensian Crusade.). The show is also run by jews- which is a double whammy for you. Then there the irony Black bangladeshi islamist wants to play a white king, lol

 

[Moonlight]

Wowwwwww you're the same dude arguing the other day. And look at the hypocrisy, now rather saying, Muslims are mostly targeted people by terrorists. Now you're saying Muslims kill more Muslims ? :/

 

[The Sandman]

 

[WaLeEdK2]

 

[gambit]

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But there is a cabal of Jewish bankers running the world...

 

[WaLeEdK2]

But there is a cabal of Jewish bankers running the world...

I'd hardly call them Jews. More like wannabe European Jews. Lol the only people that actually worked for a Jewish state.

 

[Oldman1]

So whats the reason for, whats the basic cause well the answer is not that hard to find its called UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, the ultimate terrorist in the world.First the afghans jihad was started by CIA when they called for muslims to start a holy war against soviets

And when USA thirst for blood was not finished it decided to start war on terror(2001) which will lead to many more terrorists organisations and will cause the death of 500,000 civilians muslims.
Watch the video below it shows the figure that their was no terrorism in these countires and there no suicide attack and IRAQ first ever suicide attack in its history happend after the USA invasion.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1017946398270310

And now USA is training another terrorist organisation just like afghan taliban and they are now calling them moderate rebels aka moderate terrorists

Taliban didn't exist back then when Ronald Reagan was President. Actually they existed in 94. With support of Pakistan.

Exactly, just like it were the Africans who were killing more Africans during the slavery era than the Africans killed by the Western powers. No really they were, many kingdoms of Africa waged war for the specific reason of capturing slaves and then selling them to the merchants to be taken to the american colonies. Now you can't blame the West for that, can you?

How many suicide blasts did We Pakistanis faced before the West's WAR ON TERROR began, 1 and how many have we faced since, 426. Of course no western was ever involved in any of these attacks, it was always Muslims killing Muslims.

How many suicide bombings happened in Iraq before invasion, well throughout its history Iraq never faced a single suicide bomber before 2003, and since the invasion the number is more than 2000. Again there was no Western involved in any of these bombings just Muslim killing other Muslims, because that is what we have been doing for the last 1400 years right.

West is innocent and so are its cheerleaders and should never be blamed.

Are Muslims that easily manipulated? Hey Muslims go attack a mosque filled with Muslims. Hey Muslims go attack a market filled with Muslims. Hey Muslims go attacked a school filled with Muslims. Hey we can't hit Americans, we hit Muslims instead.