Musharraf's Coup Revived Pak Economy; Boosted Education, Human Development

[WaLeEdK2]

I admit Musharraf handled the Economy well. But what he did only lasted for a short term. In my opinion he wasn't thinking long term for Pakistan. What he did with the Army Operations caused lots of problems and he left a long trail of mess which is being cleaned up today.

 

[That Guy]

I totally disagree with your Mr Riaz Haq with all due respect. I really like your articles and also watched some of your videos but in my humble opinion it is the post-afghan war lift of sanctions which lead to economic growth in Pakistan. When Musharraf tookover the economy was still in shamble for the next 2 years and was on the verge of bankruptcy. It is the gift of USA which led to removal of sanctions and the package of economic aid lead to improvement in the worst economic circumstances of the history of Pakistan.

Somewhat true. The lifting of sanctions, in reality, didn't really do much except release Pakistani frozen assets, and gain market access to the US and a few EU nations.

As foolish as Musharraf was, credit where it's due, he turned a 30 billion dollar economy to a 200 billion dollar one. The reason for this is actually quite simple, dictators don't have to worry about political opposition, so their economic plans (if good) have a higher chance of succeeding. A political opposition would demand any change in the nation's laws and finances be debated before implementation, thus slowing down growth.

Don't get me wrong, the lifting of sanctions helped Musharraf, but even with sanctions, the results would have still been the same, it just would have taken longer.

 

[Strigon]

And then people realized that things are getting better which is very much unacceptable to idiots who would much rather have failed projects like nandi pur etc, metro buses while sitting for hours in load shedding, have awesome encounters with gullu butt proxies. It's all because people want a change, they want to make their life a living hell. So congrats to them.

 

[MastanKhan]

So why did General Musharraf leave? Because the problems created by his dictatorship caught up with him, as they always do. Always.

Sir,

Either you are so simple or very deceitful----.

PPPP saw the money coming into Pakistan and they were going crazy----they wanted to find a way to make a govt and then dig in---. And when they did for the govt---indeed they dug in----supposedly in the tune of 59 Billion U S Dollars.

And then people realized that things are getting better which is very much unacceptable to idiots who would much rather have failed projects like nandi pur etc, metro buses while sitting for hours in load shedding, have awesome encounters with gullu butt proxies. It's all because people want a change, they want to make their life a living hell. So congrats to them.

Hi,

That is what makes me wonder---at people---how stupid could they be. They want to bring in Benazir---a criminal---a thief----a sellout---she sold out Pakistan's nuclear program to the U S and sold out the DR. as well.

That is what the wonderful thing about the American public----they understand who does good things for them---they care less if the rest of the world is being fckd up by the American intervention.

 

[VCheng]

A military man came to the power under his oath i.e to save country from inside and outside threats and everyone loses their minds.

Please read the military's oath. There is no such thing as "internal" threats, which is a lie manufactured to create the justification to grab power.

PPPP saw the money coming into Pakistan and they were going crazy----they wanted to find a way to make a govt and then dig in---. And when they did for the govt---indeed they dug in----supposedly in the tune of 59 Billion U S Dollars.

So why did General Musharraf let them into power?

 

[MastanKhan]

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So why did General Musharraf let them into power?

Hi,

Off course the Pakistani public and the Lawyers forum forced the issue.

It is the same thing you would do with your kids if they made your life miserable after all the good things you brought into their lives----. One day you will say----go sc-rew your self---.

 

[OTTOMAN]

I totally disagree with your Mr Riaz Haq with all due respect. I really like your articles and also watched some of your videos but in my humble opinion it is the post-afghan war lift of sanctions which lead to economic growth in Pakistan. When Musharraf tookover the economy was still in shamble for the next 2 years and was on the verge of bankruptcy. It is the gift of USA which led to removal of sanctions and the package of economic aid lead to improvement in the worst economic circumstances of the history of Pakistan.

All US reimbursements were received by Zardari, Musharraf only received head money of US most wanted.
Even the 2005 earth quake collection of Pakistanis and Arab states was embezzled by Syed Yousaf Reza.

On one side we curse Musharraf for partnering US's WoT on other hand we say all economic recovery was due to lifting of sanctions? This is not fair.

While lifting of sanctions, earned US almost 4 billions in defence contracts purchase. If you want I can find you the link for it, but you cannot find a single source to prove any influx of capital from US.
Clearly lifting of sanctions helped US at least until 2006.

If you read Musharraf's book, he described all about his economic recovery magic there, but you have disagreement with it... right?
In the end, the OP is about the economic revival of Pakistan during Musharraf era aka dictator, do you agree or not?

actually due to rhetoric posts, I my self failed to read the OP and therefore extend my apologize to Mr. Riaz Haq for being a contributor in pointless derailing... by replying troll posts.

Lets all of us read what is in the OP and than comment to the subject matter....

Hi,

Off course the Pakistani public and the Lawyers forum forced the issue.

Pakistani public - mislead by media and lifafa jurnos, corrupt CJ, Idiotic followers of Imran Khan and Jamat Islami and no one ever demanded explanation, who funded the whole extravagant bonanza.

 

[MastanKhan]

All US reimbursements were received by Zardari, Musharraf only received head money of US most wanted.
Even the 2005 earth quake collection of Pakistanis and Arab states was embezzled by Syed Yousaf Reza.

On one side we curse Musharraf for partnering US's WoT on other hand we say all economic recovery was due to lifting of sanctions? This is not fair.

While lifting of sanctions, earned US almost 4 billions in defence contracts purchase. If you want I can find you the link for it, but you cannot find a single source to prove any influx of capital from US.
Clearly lifting of sanctions helped US at least until 2006.

If you read Musharraf's book, he described all about his economic recovery magic, there but you have disagreement with it... right?
In the end, the OP is about the economic revival of Pakistan during Musharraf era aka dictator, do you agree or not?

actually due to rhetoric posts, I my self failed to read the OP and therefore extend my apologize to Mr. Riaz Haq for being a contributor in pointless derailing... by replying troll posts.

Lets all of us read what is in the OP and than comment to the subject matter....

Hi,

There is one basic truth in sales-----work with lucky people and you will make more---because in is in their DESTINY to make more.

And I can vouch for that----when I worked with failures---my income went down---when I worked lucky people----my income went up.

It was in Musharraf's destiny to have more for Pakistan. It was Zardari's destiny to steal all from Pakistan---. We all know about Zardari----and still we let him in.

 

[VCheng]

Hi,

Off course the Pakistani public and the Lawyers forum forced the issue.

It is the same thing you would do with your kids if they made your life miserable after all the good things you brought into their lives----. One day you will say----go sc-rew your self---.

Then why did he come back and start his own party to make another attempt to get back into power? Your analogy fails here.

 

[GreenGuy]

The main problem is that majority of pakistani people are uneducated, hence they have no knowledge or caliber to understand the people they vote for beyond their village levels. You just need some presentation skills to lure pakistani people wherever you want them to. Make emotional speeches and on top of that make some promises which you will never fulfill and BAM! you get their vote.

Example:
Everyone just go to your villages and ask people about their electoral contestants there. They will have only 2 answers:

1) A really good and promising guy.
WHY?
Because he gave a job to my nephew,kid,grand kid or whatever he/she. And he made a road in our village.

2) Not a good candidate.
WHY?
Couldn't get my abc/xyz relative a job and didn't make a road or gas pipeline in village.

See the above two responses and you will see they either don't give a shit about external things other than their village or they don't have that much caliber to evaluate that candidate on other basis like his work as a minister, how he performs in foreign relations etc.

In short, a good speech with any quantity of promises you can make and a single road you should make in that village / area and you are elected for next time as well.

 

[OTTOMAN]

Hi,

There is one basic truth in sales-----work with lucky people and you will make more---because in is in their DESTINY to make more.

And I can vouch for that----when I worked with failures---my income went down---when I worked lucky people----my income went up.

It was in Musharraf's destiny to have more for Pakistan. It was Zardari's destiny to steal all from Pakistan---. We all know about Zardari----and still we let him in.

^^
I'm not superstitious, but this is also the rule of management, if some setup is doing reasonably fine than don't disturb it, and quite similar rule in engineering - if its working... don't fix it.
I fully agree that Musharraf had no 'giddar singy' rather he was plain blessed.
What he accomplished, was beyond human capacity... of course it was brought about by humans.... a team which he put together, but most of it was divine blessings. When I say team it means literary a working setup with team spirit.
Whole overseas Pakistanis had trust in Pakistan, many of them shifted back to Pakistan.
You got to believe me, I wrote email to secretary interior from abroad and explained my constraint, and my birth certificate was delivered, at the door of my house by some employee of our union council. of course it was local bodies govt. not some politician rule.
During Musharraf time women empowerment was upheld and perhaps in 2006 all of Europe had women ambassadors. there's no end to his success stories....

 

[GreenGuy]

So why did General Musharraf let them into power?

Musharaf just allowed their party leaders.
It was the F***** people of pakistan who gave vote to them and elected them and then started crying as usual.
And this cycle is on repeat since 1947.

 

[VCheng]

Musharaf just allowed their party leaders.
It was the F***** people of pakistan who gave vote to them and elected them and then started crying as usual.
And this cycle is on repeat since 1947.

So the general made a secret deal with the leaders to allow them back into power. Sounds just as corrupt a practice as any the politicians would do, Sir.

 

[GreenGuy]

So the general made a secret deal with the leaders to allow them back into power. Sounds just as corrupt a practice as any the politicians would do, Sir.

I don't think so it was a secret as it was every where on the news back in those days.
However the reason of allowing them to come back does not seem so clear. Maybe an american pressure but thats just a guess.

Musharaf is not my uncle or any sort of relative that i am defending him but the main problem is in people of Pakistan, who have been choosing these thugs over and over even before musharaf to lead the country.

What these thugs could have achieved if people didnt vote them and declined them?

I have explained the people's mentality of choosing candidates in above post.

 

[VCheng]

I don't think so it was a secret as it was every where on the news back in those days.
However the reason of allowing them to come back does not seem so clear. Maybe an american pressure but thats just a guess.

Musharaf is not my uncle or any sort of relative that i am defending him but the main problem is in people of Pakistan, who have been choosing these thugs over and over even before musharaf to lead the country.

What these thugs could have achieved if people didnt vote them and declined them?

I have explained the people's mentality of choosing candidates in above post.

The dictator made the deal with these thugs to share power in a back room deal. Blaming Uncle Sam won't work here, Sir. The General is to blame, 100%.