Musharraf to be tried for 'Treason' | Nawaz Sharif

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[Zarvan]

I hope he gets punished because his disaster policies and how he became slave of USA and How he led Army to fight its own people has destroyed peace of Pakistan destroyed our efforts in Afghanistan destroyed Kashmir Cause and brought back people like BB and Zardari and also formed government of most corrupt PML Q and did disaster over disaster

 

[FalconsForPeace]

Pakistan ex-president Musharraf to be charged with treason

ISLAMABAD — Pakistan’s former president General Pervez Musharraf is to be charged with high treason, Pakistan’s interior minister told a news conference Sunday.

Interior Minister Chaudry Nisar said the government would try Musharraf for high treason under article 6 of the constitution, which condemns any person who “suspends … the Constitution by use of force or show of force.”

Nisar said the government will send a letter to the Chief Justice on Monday to initiate the trial against Musharraf “for deposing Supreme court and high court judges on November 3rd, 2007."

The former leader Pakisan's army, Musharraf, 70, gained power in a coup in 1999, but was forced to step down in 2008 — after declaring a state of emergency in the country in order to suspend the constitution and detain judges.

He also initiated a 2007 raid on a mosque that left almost 100 dead, including 10 army commandos.

Musharraf left the country in self-imposed exile shortly after losing power, but returned this past March in the hopes of running for office.

Instead, he was arrested in April on charges of murdering Pakistani leaders.

He was released on bail on Nov. 4, but banned from leaving the country or running for office.

Musharraf would be the first military leader tried for treason in Pakistan, even though numerous military coups — three successful — have taken place in the country since it was split from India in 1947.

If the ex-president is found guilty, he could face the death penalty or life in prison.

Pakistan ex-president Musharraf to be charged with treason - World News

 

[batmannow]

I hope he gets punished because his disaster policies and how he became slave of USA and How he led Army to fight its own people has destroyed peace of Pakistan destroyed our efforts in Afghanistan destroyed Kashmir Cause and brought back people like BB and Zardari and also formed government of most corrupt PML Q and did disaster over disaster

yes pakistan has to listen USA , which was the target of the worst kind of terrorism on 9/11 by, a stupid muslim militant oraganization, called ALQAEDA ! there coward leader went to afghanistan much before when 9/11 happened?
if 9/11 not happened , pakistan & the muslim countries wouldnt be suffering like that, so the whole responsiblity goes on to the stupids who, done 9/11 , who supported their stupid millitant leader OSAMA BIN LADEN, & are still doing terrorism in the whole world, may it be africa, arabian countries, pakistan ,afghanistan, iran, indonesia UK, spain , just name it!
terrorists allways pitty, musharaf because he was the only real, anti-terrorist leader in pakistan who, fought back to the terrorists even himself was the prim e target of the terrorism?
lot of prapoganda was done to, stop his come back in pakistani politics?
LAL masjid incident is the super example of that it was told tht there were hundreds of kids & womens died thier, by a BURQA posh mullhas ?
investigations have proven thier lies , allways wrong?
stupid & full of lies prapoganda which is just there ?because of the fear, that musharaf may get his way back to the power , which could be the last nail in the terrorists cofins?
yes the same terrorists who calls themselves TALIBANS, tbe scums of this earth from whom , pakistan & pakistanis are the worst hit? 

 

 

as it is mentioned , its the deadly way?
but i think its just a show off, in reality, it wont reach anywhere!
but if it is , then surly to the 111 compound!

 

[zackmoris]

I think it's just another event in the political evolution of the current system and we should all let is play it and whatever the result comes out of it. The hope is the system is than people and it evolves to a point where people doesn't matter as much as their performance and actions matter. It's sad none of the leaders seems to leave when it's time for them go and just keep trying to hang on to Kursi. They should realize their shelf life is about 5-8 years once they have reached the higher offices.

 

[fatman17]

Opinion
Musharraf treason trial: not-so-brilliant diversion
Islamabad diary
Ayaz Amir
Tuesday, November 19, 2013

Brilliant, sayeth anyone? This is downright pathetic and we are supposed to take it seriously. When other problems cry for attention, when the Taliban vow vengeance and the government (stricken by fear) knows not what to do, when breathtaking administrative incompetence leads to a complete breakdown of law and order in Rawalpindi on the 10th of Muharram and the army has to be called in and curfew imposed to restore order, what is the government’s answer to all this?

With a straight face the interior minister announces the decision to prosecute Gen Pervez Musharraf for treason – for imposing emergency on Nov 3, 2007. Do we laugh or cry? If this is all the leadership we get, we might as well give up and entrust our fate to the stars.

The former interior minister, Rehman Malik, was also given to saying pretty funny things, most of which required a generous sprinkling of salt before anyone could swallow them. But at least he had a sense of humour which, even under the most trying circumstances, he never lost.

Nisar, his successor, has no sense of humour, at least none in public. He is solemn and expects you to take him seriously, even as he drones on and on, putting everyone’s intelligence and patience to a severe test.

If he were only interior minister, it wouldn’t matter so much. But he’s a key figure in this government. If there was any politburo ranking here, like in the old Soviet Union or present-day China, he would be third in the PML-N’s pecking order, after the PM and talented brother Shahbaz.

In George du Maurier’s 1894 novel Trilby, Svengali is a character with great powers of hypnosis. From the book the name has entered the English language to signify someone who manipulates and exerts excessive control over another. Who is the PML-N’s Svengali?

When Bhutto chose Gen Zia as his chief of staff, and lived to rue his decision, he had no one to blame except himself. The decision was his. Gen Yahya was Ayub’s decision. But Musharraf was a choice sold to the Sharifs by Nisar. Was this the reason why after the coup and later exile to Saudi Arabia, Nawaz Sharif’s attitude towards his bright acolyte was a bit distant?

After the 2013 elections Nisar was again under a bit of a cloud because of the PML-N’s relatively poor showing in Rawalpindi district and because Nisar himself lost two out of the four seats he was contesting. But he’s been in politics for a long time. The art of the comeback at least he seems to have mastered.

His great political skills are evident even in the way he has tried to handle the aftermath of the recent flare-up in Rawalpindi. This was administrative bungling at its worst, the Pindi administration, from top to bottom, unable to control events, one thing leading to another before the situation went completely out of hand and the army had to be called in.

Who was to blame? Primarily, the administration. But who was behind the administration? Musharraf was responsible for the ’99 coup but there was somebody responsible for his elevation to the position of army chief. Similarly, somebody is responsible for all the top appointments in the Pindi administration. I am not spinning a yarn; this is common knowledge. No top appointment or transfer in Pindi can be made without Nisar’s approval: commissioner, RPO, etc, etc, all his hand-picked choices, because Pindi district is his bailiwick, or at least he thinks it is.

To be fair to Nisar, this happens not just in Pindi. Ministers and even influential MNAs/MPAs try to influence appointments and transfers everywhere, one reason why we’ve managed to wreck our administrative services. But in Pindi this practice is more pronounced. Other stalwarts have to lobby, or even abjectly entreat, the chief minister. Not Nisar whose closeness to the CM puts him above that necessity.

So the standard excuse that law and order is a provincial subject does not really apply in this case. In Rawalpindi law and order is a provincial subject, making the CM ultimately responsible for it, but it is also, for reasons cited above, an interior ministry subject. Where does the buck stop then? Who’s really responsible? We have to hand it to Nisar, however, for playing his cards deftly by trying to deflect attention from the real issue on the table, the trouble in Pindi, to the bogey of Musharraf’s trial.

Not that everyone is falling for his ploy. The morning after his hurriedly-called press conference there was no shortage of scepticism in the media about the motives behind this move. But if not the media’s attention, the government’s attention will be deflected. As if there was not enough on his plate already, when Nawaz Sharif returns from his foreign tour, in the form of Musharraf’s treason case he will have another mess to deal with.

Who knows, he may welcome this distraction. After all, it is so much nicer and more comfortable thundering about treason and the sanctity of the constitution instead of figuring out how to deal with terrorism and the Taliban. So Nisar could well end up being congratulated for another smart move.

But since we are on this subject consider for a moment the amazing selectivity we are bringing to this treason affair. So focused are we on November 3, 2007 that it almost seems as if the Musharraf era began on that date and not eight years before, on Oct 12, 1999.

November 3 was a minor affair compared to the original sin of 1999 but the government doesn’t want to talk about it, the judiciary doesn’t want to talk about it, because the original sin was validated by the Supreme Court in 2000, in the so-called Zafar Ali Shah case.

Irshad Hasan Khan was CJ, and on the bench, among others, sat My Lord Iftikhar Chaudhry. Not only did the SC give Musharraf’s action a clean chit it also empowered him to amend the constitution. This means the army and the judiciary were hand-in-glove, which has been the regular pattern of all our coups, Ayub Khan onwards.

We cannot run away from our past, but shouldn’t a recognition of the past inculcate in us some modesty and humility? If we ourselves have sinned should we not pause a bit before casting stones at others?

“Mein ne majnoon pe larak mein Asad, sang uthaya toh sar yaad aaya.” Kuch Ghalib se hee seekh lein. (By the way, Saigal singing this ghazal, it’s incomparable.)

The restoration of the judiciary should have brought with it some humility. It has had just the opposite effect, leading to an explosion of self-righteousness. The judicial wheel is about to turn. Let us see what awaits us when that is done.

Nisar also had another trick up his sleeve. He said a commission was to be set up to investigate the Asghar Khan case – relating to ISI money distributed to a long line of politicians in order to influence and steal the 1990 elections – elections which saw Benazir Bhutto comprehensively defeated. In that treasured list figure the names, among others, of Nawaz Sharif and talented brother Shahbaz. Only certified fools can think that the brothers or any of the others will be indicted. This is just the first step in another cover-up that will take care of the Asghar Khan case once and for all, consigning it to that limbo where dwell forgotten things.

And there are 20-year-old bank loans of which not a penny has been returned. No one will ever ask what’s happened to them. But we’ll continue to talk of justice and accountability.

But look at the sunny side of things. What if our problems are many and great? At least we have our talent for low and small cunning, and who one can take away that from us?

Email: winlust@yahoo.com

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Opinion
Musharraf treason trial: not-so-brilliant diversion
Islamabad diary
Ayaz Amir
Tuesday, November 19, 2013

Brilliant, sayeth anyone? This is downright pathetic and we are supposed to take it seriously. When other problems cry for attention, when the Taliban vow vengeance and the government (stricken by fear) knows not what to do, when breathtaking administrative incompetence leads to a complete breakdown of law and order in Rawalpindi on the 10th of Muharram and the army has to be called in and curfew imposed to restore order, what is the government’s answer to all this?

With a straight face the interior minister announces the decision to prosecute Gen Pervez Musharraf for treason – for imposing emergency on Nov 3, 2007. Do we laugh or cry? If this is all the leadership we get, we might as well give up and entrust our fate to the stars.

The former interior minister, Rehman Malik, was also given to saying pretty funny things, most of which required a generous sprinkling of salt before anyone could swallow them. But at least he had a sense of humour which, even under the most trying circumstances, he never lost.

Nisar, his successor, has no sense of humour, at least none in public. He is solemn and expects you to take him seriously, even as he drones on and on, putting everyone’s intelligence and patience to a severe test.

If he were only interior minister, it wouldn’t matter so much. But he’s a key figure in this government. If there was any politburo ranking here, like in the old Soviet Union or present-day China, he would be third in the PML-N’s pecking order, after the PM and talented brother Shahbaz.

In George du Maurier’s 1894 novel Trilby, Svengali is a character with great powers of hypnosis. From the book the name has entered the English language to signify someone who manipulates and exerts excessive control over another. Who is the PML-N’s Svengali?

When Bhutto chose Gen Zia as his chief of staff, and lived to rue his decision, he had no one to blame except himself. The decision was his. Gen Yahya was Ayub’s decision. But Musharraf was a choice sold to the Sharifs by Nisar. Was this the reason why after the coup and later exile to Saudi Arabia, Nawaz Sharif’s attitude towards his bright acolyte was a bit distant?

After the 2013 elections Nisar was again under a bit of a cloud because of the PML-N’s relatively poor showing in Rawalpindi district and because Nisar himself lost two out of the four seats he was contesting. But he’s been in politics for a long time. The art of the comeback at least he seems to have mastered.

His great political skills are evident even in the way he has tried to handle the aftermath of the recent flare-up in Rawalpindi. This was administrative bungling at its worst, the Pindi administration, from top to bottom, unable to control events, one thing leading to another before the situation went completely out of hand and the army had to be called in.

Who was to blame? Primarily, the administration. But who was behind the administration? Musharraf was responsible for the ’99 coup but there was somebody responsible for his elevation to the position of army chief. Similarly, somebody is responsible for all the top appointments in the Pindi administration. I am not spinning a yarn; this is common knowledge. No top appointment or transfer in Pindi can be made without Nisar’s approval: commissioner, RPO, etc, etc, all his hand-picked choices, because Pindi district is his bailiwick, or at least he thinks it is.

To be fair to Nisar, this happens not just in Pindi. Ministers and even influential MNAs/MPAs try to influence appointments and transfers everywhere, one reason why we’ve managed to wreck our administrative services. But in Pindi this practice is more pronounced. Other stalwarts have to lobby, or even abjectly entreat, the chief minister. Not Nisar whose closeness to the CM puts him above that necessity.

So the standard excuse that law and order is a provincial subject does not really apply in this case. In Rawalpindi law and order is a provincial subject, making the CM ultimately responsible for it, but it is also, for reasons cited above, an interior ministry subject. Where does the buck stop then? Who’s really responsible? We have to hand it to Nisar, however, for playing his cards deftly by trying to deflect attention from the real issue on the table, the trouble in Pindi, to the bogey of Musharraf’s trial.

Not that everyone is falling for his ploy. The morning after his hurriedly-called press conference there was no shortage of scepticism in the media about the motives behind this move. But if not the media’s attention, the government’s attention will be deflected. As if there was not enough on his plate already, when Nawaz Sharif returns from his foreign tour, in the form of Musharraf’s treason case he will have another mess to deal with.

Who knows, he may welcome this distraction. After all, it is so much nicer and more comfortable thundering about treason and the sanctity of the constitution instead of figuring out how to deal with terrorism and the Taliban. So Nisar could well end up being congratulated for another smart move.

But since we are on this subject consider for a moment the amazing selectivity we are bringing to this treason affair. So focused are we on November 3, 2007 that it almost seems as if the Musharraf era began on that date and not eight years before, on Oct 12, 1999.

November 3 was a minor affair compared to the original sin of 1999 but the government doesn’t want to talk about it, the judiciary doesn’t want to talk about it, because the original sin was validated by the Supreme Court in 2000, in the so-called Zafar Ali Shah case.

Irshad Hasan Khan was CJ, and on the bench, among others, sat My Lord Iftikhar Chaudhry. Not only did the SC give Musharraf’s action a clean chit it also empowered him to amend the constitution. This means the army and the judiciary were hand-in-glove, which has been the regular pattern of all our coups, Ayub Khan onwards.

We cannot run away from our past, but shouldn’t a recognition of the past inculcate in us some modesty and humility? If we ourselves have sinned should we not pause a bit before casting stones at others?

“Mein ne majnoon pe larak mein Asad, sang uthaya toh sar yaad aaya.” Kuch Ghalib se hee seekh lein. (By the way, Saigal singing this ghazal, it’s incomparable.)

The restoration of the judiciary should have brought with it some humility. It has had just the opposite effect, leading to an explosion of self-righteousness. The judicial wheel is about to turn. Let us see what awaits us when that is done.

Nisar also had another trick up his sleeve. He said a commission was to be set up to investigate the Asghar Khan case – relating to ISI money distributed to a long line of politicians in order to influence and steal the 1990 elections – elections which saw Benazir Bhutto comprehensively defeated. In that treasured list figure the names, among others, of Nawaz Sharif and talented brother Shahbaz. Only certified fools can think that the brothers or any of the others will be indicted. This is just the first step in another cover-up that will take care of the Asghar Khan case once and for all, consigning it to that limbo where dwell forgotten things.

And there are 20-year-old bank loans of which not a penny has been returned. No one will ever ask what’s happened to them. But we’ll continue to talk of justice and accountability.

But look at the sunny side of things. What if our problems are many and great? At least we have our talent for low and small cunning, and who one can take away that from us?

Email: winlust@yahoo.com

@fatman17 sahab; whatever one may think of Musharraff (favorable or unfavorable), his present condition and his past actions represent some of the least problems that face Pakistan now.

So why indulge in this sort of "witch-hunt" now? And how many people can Pakistan try for "high treason" That list can become too long to be manageable.

At best (or worst) inquire objectively into the Kargil Debacle so as to learn all the right lessons from it and close the chapter on the Musharraff era.

 

[BATMAN]

HIGH TREASON..... re-instated judiciary at its best.

 

[batmannow]

I think it's just another event in the political evolution of the current system and we should all let is play it and whatever the result comes out of it. The hope is the system is than people and it evolves to a point where people doesn't matter as much as their performance and actions matter. It's sad none of the leaders seems to leave when it's time for them go and just keep trying to hang on to Kursi. They should realize their shelf life is about 5-8 years once they have reached the higher offices.

thanks for sharing your unreachble dreams ?
but hey wakeup, it morning we have to becarefull even in the bus , cause it all can explode in blink of eye?
come to reality, stop living in the fake dreams sold by CJ monte carlo once?

 

[Slav Defence]

Very well posted @fatman17
especially,the first paragraph of this blog!
Indeed,our civil regime has gone full retard,but what to be expected when it consists of low character individuals with no moral.
'Why Mr.Musharraf is arrested,imprisoned,trailed for his so called 'objectionable strategies' to deal with various issues?'.
I will not indulge myself in this arguement that what Mr.Musharraf has done?or as mentioned above

-He is accused for accessing US to Pakistani bases-agreed
-He failed to restrict US influence to Pakistan-agreed
-He agreed US for drone strikes-agreed.

But what PPP regime has done to revert Mr.Musharraf's policy?

-Has PPP succeed to halt drone strikes?
>No
-Has PPP's counter terrorism policy succeed?
>No
-Has PPP succeed to represent any clear policy in case of Indian occupied Kashmir?(despite of kargil conflict, Musharraf tried to sustain relationships with India by both aggressive as well as calm approach,he was 'man' enough who called those mujhahidins as 'freedom fighters' right on their faces to express his aggressive approach and to give specific impression and later on he also took action against some 'real funded terrorists outfits such as LEJ' thus sustaining Pakistan's relationship with India and bringing India for peace dialogues!!)
-What PPP did to sustain Pakistan's relation with India?
>Nothing important
-Was Bibi's murderer caught?have they tried to do so?
>Yes,they did,Mr.Zardari loved his late wife so much that he denied for postmortum!!and he was so sincere that he didn't even tried to catch Mr.Musharraf via interpole,when he was having fun in London!!!!
Now,let us see what PML-N has done till now?
-Did PML-N succeed to halt US influence in Pakistan?
>No
-Is PML-N succeed to halt drone strikes?
>No,a big NO,infact the defence minister represented pseudo report which represented wrong casualties of civilians,women,children and terrorists to prove it's effectiveness,a big NO...lol
-Is PML-N counter terrorism policy suceed to halt TTP insurgencies?
>NO,once again-a big NO

-Is PML-N's policy succeed to stop Indian aggressive policy?
>No!!!

From above analysis,one thing seems clear,that PML-N seems to agree with drone attack policy,that is why ministry of defense tried to project that how useful is drone strike against militancy which means that they 'agree' with Mr.Musharraf,then why to blame him when your regime agrees with his policy!
-Now let us talk about counter terrorism policy?yes, they have failed badly to stop insurgencies plus US 'influence' which either means of their ineligiblility to do so or their state of confusion,but if they have created models and failed to implement,it also points out that they may consists of some mindsets who agree with Mr.Musharraf's policies!!

So,it really looks pathetic to see a 'transgressor' who is trying to be a saint!!!
@jaibi and @Secur and other seniors.....please leave some advice atleast for our new comers against these confused mindsets.
Regards-

 

[batmannow]

@fatman17 sahab; whatever one may think of Musharraff (favorable or unfavorable), his present condition and his past actions represent some of the least problems that face Pakistan now.

So why indulge in this sort of "witch-hunt" now? And how many people can Pakistan try for "high treason" That list can become too long to be manageable.

At best (or worst) inquire objectively into the Kargil Debacle so as to learn all the right lessons from it and close the chapter on the Musharraff era.

fuuny though!
you think, anything walking towards karigill war, will stay alive?
& you think our FIA can investigate our ARMY TOP BRASS cause many, of them were still in that command of chain, which was sharing powers with musharaf?
what you think , a lonly person can take the power of pakistan & others be waiting for his orders?
no, my friend this whole drama is going to be in a deadly direction, its that what they all want, our political elites whom mostly were shoe cleaners, of the peoples like mushraf , who stood in the way of terrorists & fought the lonly war?
i mean under his rule, wasnt was any MUMBAI terror ever happened?
or you think , better to a stupid weak pakistani govt,on the other hand a 1000 MUMBAIS keep hapening?

 

[Capt.Popeye]

fuuny though!
you think, anything walking towards karigill war, will stay alive?
& you think our FIA can investigate our ARMY TOP BRASS cause many, of them were still in that command of chain, which was sharing powers with musharaf?
what you think , a lonly person can take the power of pakistan & others be waiting for his orders?
no, my friend this whole drama is going to be in a deadly direction, its that what they all want, our political elites whom mostly were shoe cleaners, of the peoples like mushraf , who stood in the way of terrorists & fought the lonly war?
i mean under his rule, wasnt was any MUMBAI terror ever happened?
or you think , better to a stupid weak pakistani govt,on the other hand a 1000 MUMBAIS keep hapening?

Are you trying to say something? Seriously, its just coming through garbled in transmission.

 

[batmannow]

Very well posted @fatman17
especially,the first paragraph of this blog!
Indeed,our civil regime has gone full retard,but what to be expected when it consists of low character individuals with no moral.
Mr.Musharraf is arrested,imprisoned,trailed for his so called 'objectionable strategies' to deal with various issues.
I will not indulge myself in this arguement that what Mr.Musharraf has done?

-He is accused for accessing US to Pakistani bases-agreed
-He failed to restrict US influence to Pakistan-agreed
-He agreed US for drone strikes-agreed.

But what PPP regime has done to revert Mr.Musharraf's policy?

-Has PPP succeed to halt drone strikes?
>No
-Has PPP's counter terrorism policy succeed?
>No
-Has PPP succeed to represent any clear policy in case of Indian occupied Kashmir?(despite of kargil conflict, Musharraf tried to sustain relationships with India by both aggressive as well as calm approach,he was man enough who called those mujhahidins as 'freedom fighters' right on their faces to express his aggressive approach and to give specific impression and later on he also took action against some 'real funded terrorists outfits such as LEJ' thus sustaining Pakistan's relationship with India and bringing India for peace dialogues!!)
-what PPP did to sustain Pakistan's relation with India?
>Nothing important
-Is Bibi's murderer is caught?have they tried to do so?
>Yes,they did,Mr.Zardari loved his late wife so much that he denied for postmortum!!and he was so sincere that he didn't even tried to catch Mr.Musharraf via interpole,when he was having fun in London!!!!
Now,let us see what PML-N has done till now?
-Did PML-N succeed to halt US influence in Pakistan?
>No
-Is PML-N succeed to halt drone strikes?
>No,a big NO,infact the defence minister represented pseudo report which represented wrong casualties of civilians,women,children and terrorists to prove it's effectiveness,a big NO...lol
-Is PML-N counter terrorism policy suceed to halt TTP insurgencies?
>NO,once again-a big NO

-Is PML-N's policy succeed to stop Indian aggressive policy?
>No!!!

From above analysis,one thing seems clear,that PML-N seems to agree with drone attack policy,that is why ministry of defense tried to project that how useful is drone strike again militancy which means that they 'agree' with Mr.Musharraf,then why to blame him when your regime agrees with his policy!
-Now let us talk about counter terrorism policy?yes, they have failed badly to stop insurgencies plus US 'influence' which either means that their ineligible to do so or they are confused to create,but if they have created models and failed to implement,it also points out that they may consists of some mindsets who agree with Mr.Musharraf's policies!!

So,it really looks pathetic to see a 'transgressed' playing to be saint!!!
@jaibi and @Secur and other seniors.....please leave some advice atleast for our new comers against these confused mindsets
Regards-

just a question, for my weak info, why drones attacking pakistan?
tell me a country, which is not under USA , influence ECONOMICLY, MILITRLY?
sorry but , you never mention any thing called terrorism or terrorsists in your kind post?
so you think, all the insurgents attacking PA & peoples of pakistan ?
are just militants? wow?
isnt is the fact, that drones have taken out the deadliest of the terrorists-millitants in region? 

Are you trying to say something? Seriously, its just coming through garbled in transmission.

seriously, plz take out dam gora cables from yo , head?

 

[batmannow]

November 3 was a minor affair compared to the original sin of 1999 but the government doesn’t want to talk about it, the judiciary doesn’t want to talk about it, because the original sin was validated by the Supreme Court in 2000, in the so-called Zafar Ali Shah case.

Irshad Hasan Khan was CJ, and on the bench, among others, sat My Lord Iftikhar Chaudhry. Not only did the SC give Musharraf’s action a clean chit it also empowered him to amend the constitution. This means the army and the judiciary were hand-in-glove, which has been the regular pattern of all our coups, Ayub Khan onwards.

We cannot run away from our past, but shouldn’t a recognition of the past inculcate in us some modesty and humility? If we ourselves have sinned should we not pause a bit before casting stones at others?

“Mein ne majnoon pe larak mein Asad, sang uthaya toh sar yaad aaya.” Kuch Ghalib se hee seekh lein. (By the way, Saigal singing this ghazal, it’s incomparable.)

The restoration of the judiciary should have brought with it some humility. It has had just the opposite effect, leading to an explosion of self-righteousness. The judicial wheel is about to turn. Let us see what awaits us when that is done.

Nisar also had another trick up his sleeve. He said a commission was to be set up to investigate the Asghar Khan case – relating to ISI money distributed to a long line of politicians in order to influence and steal the 1990 elections – elections which saw Benazir Bhutto comprehensively defeated. In that treasured list figure the names, among others, of Nawaz Sharif and talented brother Shahbaz. Only certified fools can think that the brothers or any of the others will be indicted. This is just the first step in another cover-up that will take care of the Asghar Khan case once and for all, consigning it to that limbo where dwell forgotten things.

And there are 20-year-old bank loans of which not a penny has been returned. No one will ever ask what’s happened to them. But we’ll continue to talk of justice and accountability.

But look at the sunny side of things. What if our problems are many and great? At least we have our talent for low and small cunning, and who one can take away that from us?

But Musharraf was a choice sold to the Sharifs by Nisar. Was this the reason why after the coup and later exile to Saudi Arabia, Nawaz Sharif’s attitude towards his bright acolyte was a bit distant?

CHODRI NISSAR the devils advocate, turning the wheels again for good end of NOORAcracy from pakistan & once agian inviting heavy boots !
i just love iT all well done nissar!

 

[Secur]

Even Nawaz Sharif is guilty of an high treason for not allowing the airplane carrying the COAS to land and ordering the pilot to land in India , go figure . What if the opposition launches the case against him ? Why did the Govt choose the trial to start from 2007 Emergency and not from the beginning of the coup ? To be very honest , this will open a Pandora box so big that these bald men wont be able to handle it since the article 6 doesn't only include only Mr.Musharraf , it includes the whole army top brass and countless other influential men beyond the reach of this country's law . I thought , after ruling Pakistan two times , the PML N would have learned its lesson but it appears that they haven't . This is more big than we can even imagine , especially at a time when the country is facing such instability , this is actually insane . These men will leave unscathed but what about the situation in the country during and afterwards ? 
@batmannow

6. High treason.—1[(1) Any person who abrogates or subverts or suspends or holds in abeyance, or attempts or conspires to abrogate or subvert or suspend or hold in abeyance, the Constitution by use of force or show of force or by any other unconstitutional means shall be guilty of high treason.]

(2) Any person aiding or abetting 2[or collaborating] the acts mentioned in clause (1) shall likewise be guilty of high treason.

3[(2A) An act of high treason mentioned in clause (1) or clause (2) shall not be validated by any court including the Supreme Court and a High Court.]

Read the third clause , what does it mean for the judiciary ? Who's safe ? Even the revered Bhutto used to be a foreign minister in Ayub Khan's rule , cmon !