Musharraf Ki Yaad AAyi Us Kay Janay Kay Baad

[sparklingway]

 

[VrSoLdIeRs]

When are you going to wake up?? All of these have been done in Nawaz Sharif's govt and BB's govt as well.

wow such a nice excuse for mushy to follow their steps as well

Aimal Kansal was handed over by the Nawaz Sharif govt.

yeah he was... and can you really compare the numbers of ppl handed over in mushy term to nawaz's???

Laser guided missiles landed in Pakistan when Nawaz Sharif was PM.

reality check!!! they were aimed at pakistan but on afghanistan, the ones that failed fell in balouchistan

There are more bomb blasts in the last two years.

and in whose term this mess started??

What Kashmir issue?? BB gave the list of spies and operatives to the Indian govt.

agreed!!! i think that list was of the sikh freedom fighters in punjab, not in kashmir... but still regrettable!!!

Karachi faced the worst form of state sponsered terrorism in mid 90s by Nawaz Sharif, BB and MQM.

and nawaz/BB dared to start operation against those 'terrorists' on the other hand MQM was mushy darling... did you hear about any investigation of 12th may??? (apart from the judiciary)

What the hell is your problem mate? Are you one of those Lal Masjid guys?? You are able to see innocent blood of these bloody Talibans but you are not able to see the blood of my brothers in the Pindi mosque!!

didnt i say that you would think its worth it anyways many innocents got killed in the lal masjid operation... state within the state right??? just try stepping in one of the ' sector office' of ant political party in karachi, lets see which 'law' saves you n yeah you will be able to drag-out all those AK 47's from 4-5 sectors that would equal lal masjid!!!

Do you go blind when these terrorists wave their weapons and attack innocent civilians in Peshawer??

who started it first???

You are worried about Taliban turning agianst us ... those ungrateful a**holes should have towed our lines from day one!

and those ungrateful a**holes were saving your tail from the indian backed nothern front!!!

BB created them and Nawaz Sharif groomed them and spoiled them, period!!

correction army created them.. the politician only tried to share the fortune!!!

Pakistan was not created for fanatics like Talibans! Pakistan was created so that Muslims can live, prosper and practice Islam and no-Muslims could live with equal rights.

true very true... and how many 'taliban were in pakistan pre 9/11??

Do you think Taliban even understand Islam???

nope!!! for me they aint a authority over islam!!! but neither iss mushy!!!! i aint taking taliban as 'pure muslims' but just as a army they were!!!

 

[VrSoLdIeRs]

so you have problem of army taking control good because i also have one but remember also it was the dictator which have given you more freedom than others and it was during his tenure the election were held as transparent as ever!
The problems you discuss it is still there after even taken over by democratic gov and even worsen the situation "selling your own citizen"dude where did you get that"civil war within pakistan" it is not civil war we are fighting against enemies against taliban. "kashmir" kashmir issue was handled more peacefully at his time instead of doing kargil war now thats what i call u turn."blood of innocence" maybe for u but definatly not for me.things were better at his time.

i was just clearing a point that if it was bloodless, it wasnt a big deal... BB went ppl celeberated.. nawaz went ppl celeberated... mushy went ppl celeberated... and when zardari will do ppl will celeberate!!!

dude its not the case of 'they are still here..' its a case of 'why are they here in the first place'!!!!

selling citizens -> from mushy's own book!!!

civil war -> i dont remember the FATA agencies fighting against the army before mushy came!!!

kashmir-> kargil??? it was mushy who started it yaar!!! peaceful??? apart from 'claims' what have they achieved on
kashmir?? you allowed em to build a fence on the LOC!!! nawaz was in way better terms with india in 98 wasnt he???

blood of innocent-> read my prev. post... didnt i say you would think its worth it

 

[SSGPA1]

yeah he was... and can you really compare the numbers of ppl handed over in mushy term to nawaz's???

Buddy it is not true until proven. SCoP has yet to give a sentence to anyone. Till then ZERO people were handed.

reality check!!! they were aimed at pakistan but on afghanistan, the ones that failed fell in balouchistan

proves that this mess started in NS' govt and reached its peak in the Zaradri regime.

and nawaz/BB dared to start operation against those 'terrorists' on the other hand MQM was mushy darling... did you hear about any investigation of 12th may??? (apart from the judiciary)

What terrorists? They won more seats in 2008 elections. Why didn't Nawaz Sharif and IK took part in elections from Karachi?? Oh sorry one was not allowed due to his deal and the other one is a goof.

Is it a dislikeness agaisnt the people of Karachi or the case of khisayni billi khamba nochey? If MQM was involved then NS and PPPP are also involved for not going after them.

anyways many innocents got killed in the lal masjid operation... state within the state right??? just try stepping in one of the ' sector office' of ant political party in karachi, lets see which 'law' saves you n yeah you will be able to drag-out all those AK 47's from 4-5 sectors that would equal lal masjid!!!

From Karachi to Lahore there are hundereds of brothels but the Lal Masjid folks went afetr Chinese nationals so that GoP is pressurized into taking actions.

For six months GoP tried and when they came close to a deal, people like Khawaja Khalid forced Ghazi against it ... how many innocents were killed?

Stop watching Hamid Mir and go and actuualy find evidence.. for the last two years there is no influence of Gen. Musharraf and there has been no evidence yet so lets stop this nonsense of many innocents and bring evidence.

who started it first???

Are you serious?? TTTP is not a govt. and not a political force. They are simply guns for hire. There is no question of who started first.

and those ungrateful a**holes were saving your tail from the indian backed nothern front!!!

To sit on a tank and get a pic taken doesn't make you a soldier. Your comment tells me how much faith you have in Pakistan's armed forces. This is a false impression created by the likes of Hamid Gul, BB nad NS so that they can have these Talibans in Afg in order to achieve their own agendas.

Reality is that Pakistan's armed forces are more than capable of defending Pakistan and the evidence is the success of our operations in the Swatt etc. Compare this success with that of the US in Iraq and Afg and you may see the greatness of our armed forces. Almost equal number of shaheeds amongst jawans and officers!!

true very true... and how many 'taliban were in pakistan pre 9/11??

Go and ask Nawaz Sharif, the closet Taliban, or IK, the wanna be closet Taliban. How much control did we have in FATA pre 9/11 and how much control we have today is the question.

nope!!! for me they aint a authority over islam!!! but neither iss mushy!!!! i aint taking taliban as 'pure muslims' but just as a army they were!!!

No one is calling Gen. Musharraf an authority in Islam but atleast he is not a fanatic. Talibans are the same as the illiterate Crusaders, they are not pure Mslims in any sense.

 

[qsaark]

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.... The person fingered by Bhutto, Musharraf, now lives in exile in London, accompanied everywhere by six Scotland Yard officers. Before Christmas I met him at a dinner at the home of a mutual Pakistani friend, where he lounged on the sofa, drinking whisky, smoking a fat cigar and handing out £50 notes to the singers. ...

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[VrSoLdIeRs]

Buddy it is not true until proven. SCoP has yet to give a sentence to anyone. Till then ZERO people were handed.

its an open secret... and just in case if the decision comes against mush... the SCoP will be declared biased.. wont it???

proves that this mess started in NS' govt and reached its peak in the Zaradri regime.

no.. not NS but mushy... NS was never asked by american to use pakistani airspace.. general jehangir karamat was told of it when the missiles were in pakistani airspace... but weak in making decisions as we are.. no action was taken

What terrorists? They won more seats in 2008 elections. Why didn't Nawaz Sharif and IK took part in elections from Karachi?? Oh sorry one was not allowed due to his deal and the other one is a goof.

MQM has been ruling karachi since 1988 but do you really think they arent involved in political violence??

NS did use to take part in elections from karachi earlier but his party was weakened in mushy's regime... so he didnt had any power!!!

IK?? he is a one man army!!!! seriously he gets least seats and still he wasnt allowed to come to karachi... plz keep in mind his party has never been involved in any kind of violence!!!

Is it a dislikeness agaisnt the people of Karachi or the case of khisayni billi khamba nochey? If MQM was involved then NS and PPPP are also involved for not going after them.

dude get you facts straigh PML N used to win seats from karachi... MQM was involved and action was taken against em (remember 90's cleanup operations in karachi)... and its not the dislikeness against ppl of karachi but the bloody terrorists of MQM!!

From Karachi to Lahore there are hundereds of brothels but the Lal Masjid folks went afetr Chinese nationals so that GoP is pressurized into taking actions.

they did started something... there is always a first step... and yeah they did take law into their hands but that aint an excuse to execute em!!!

For six months GoP tried and when they came close to a deal, people like Khawaja Khalid forced Ghazi against it ... how many innocents were killed?

Stop watching Hamid Mir and go and actuualy find evidence.. for the last two years there is no influence of Gen. Musharraf and there has been no evidence yet so lets stop this nonsense of many innocents and bring evidence.

ok unless there some petition in supreme court... it cant be declared!!! but there are plenty of skeletons in this closet... remember even mushys own 'feet lickers' think that it was a mistake n they are sorry... ever wonder why??? its an open secret dude!!

Are you serious?? TTTP is not a govt. and not a political force. They are simply guns for hire. There is no question of who started first.

yeah but who started it??? i aint talking about the swat issue but the whole taliban scenario!!!

To sit on a tank and get a pic taken doesn't make you a soldier. Your comment tells me how much faith you have in Pakistan's armed forces. This is a false impression created by the likes of Hamid Gul, BB nad NS so that they can have these Talibans in Afg in order to achieve their own agendas.

dude pakistan fought a proxy war with the help of taliban n we did hell of a job!!!! (wonder why insurgency has increased in balouchistan, and where are the so called taliban getting their weapons?)

i have faith in my forces... does mushy???? was i the one who trembled at just a phone call?!

Reality is that Pakistan's armed forces are more than capable of defending Pakistan and the evidence is the success of our operations in the Swatt etc. Compare this success with that of the US in Iraq and Afg and you may see the greatness of our armed forces. Almost equal number of shaheeds amongst jawans and officers!!

on cost of what??? 14000 men we lost... thats more in number then 1965 and 71 wars together!!!

americans n british would leave this area any day!!! but where can we go??? how many lives does it take to correct the mistake of one person???

Go and ask Nawaz Sharif, the closet Taliban, or IK, the wanna be closet Taliban. How much control did we have in FATA pre 9/11 and how much control we have today is the question.

we didnt had any control thats the reason they are federally administrated and not under the provincial govt.s as rest of pakistan.... but they have been loyal n provided with fighters whenever pakistan required em!!! just guess the reason of them turning against you!!!

No one is calling Gen. Musharraf an authority in Islam but atleast he is not a fanatic. Talibans are the same as the illiterate Crusaders, they are not pure Mslims in any sense.

he is a liberal fanatic dude!!!! they arent pure muslims n lets talk about em as a force... cuz both parties here dont have any good reputation when it comes to islam!!!

 

[SSGPA1]

its an open secret... and just in case if the decision comes against mush... the SCoP will be declared biased.. wont it???


no.. not NS but mushy... NS was never asked by american to use pakistani airspace.. general jehangir karamat was told of it when the missiles were in pakistani airspace... but weak in making decisions as we are.. no action was taken



MQM has been ruling karachi since 1988 but do you really think they arent involved in political violence??

NS did use to take part in elections from karachi earlier but his party was weakened in mushy's regime... so he didnt had any power!!!

IK?? he is a one man army!!!! seriously he gets least seats and still he wasnt allowed to come to karachi... plz keep in mind his party has never been involved in any kind of violence!!!


dude get you facts straigh PML N used to win seats from karachi... MQM was involved and action was taken against em (remember 90's cleanup operations in karachi)... and its not the dislikeness against ppl of karachi but the bloody terrorists of MQM!!


they did started something... there is always a first step... and yeah they did take law into their hands but that aint an excuse to execute em!!!



ok unless there some petition in supreme court... it cant be declared!!! but there are plenty of skeletons in this closet... remember even mushys own 'feet lickers' think that it was a mistake n they are sorry... ever wonder why??? its an open secret dude!!


yeah but who started it??? i aint talking about the swat issue but the whole taliban scenario!!!


dude pakistan fought a proxy war with the help of taliban n we did hell of a job!!!! (wonder why insurgency has increased in balouchistan, and where are the so called taliban getting their weapons?)

i have faith in my forces... does mushy???? was i the one who trembled at just a phone call?!



on cost of what??? 14000 men we lost... thats more in number then 1965 and 71 wars together!!!

americans n british would leave this area any day!!! but where can we go??? how many lives does it take to correct the mistake of one person???


we didnt had any control thats the reason they are federally administrated and not under the provincial govt.s as rest of pakistan.... but they have been loyal n provided with fighters whenever pakistan required em!!! just guess the reason of them turning against you!!!



he is a liberal fanatic dude!!!! they arent pure muslims n lets talk about em as a force... cuz both parties here dont have any good reputation when it comes to islam!!!

You mix facts with fantacies ... When and how many seats did PML-N won from Karachi?

Gen. Musharraf is no liberal fanatic He has clearly stated that media should not use its freedom to spread vulgairty ...

There is no evidence for any of your claims.

Please quote a link for all your statements.

 

[VrSoLdIeRs]

You mix facts with fantacies ... When and how many seats did PML-N won from Karachi?

Gen. Musharraf is no liberal fanatic He has clearly stated that media should not use its freedom to spread vulgairty ...

There is no evidence for any of your claims.

Please quote a link for all your statements.

that was quite lame!!! temme which 'facts' do you need links for??

as for the elction results just tell me the website where i can find region based results of the 90s era... tried googling it.. but was of no use.. and till you cant spring up a link, then how can you prove me wrong???

plus many things in my prev. post didnt required any 'facts' like mushy wetting his pants over a phone call (and you blaming me for not believing in our forces!!!)

more here is a link for fata

Federally Administered Tribal Areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

read carefully where it states The Jurisdiction of Supreme Court and High Court of Pakistan does not extend to FATA and Provincially Administered Tribal Areas (PATA), according to Article 247 and Article 248, of existing 1973 Constitution of Pakistan.

The NWFP Provincial Assembly has no power in FATA, and can only exercise its powers in PATA that are part of NWFP. The assembly cannot implement the law directly as it can do in other parts of the province or Settled Areas of NWFP.

mushy against vulgarity??? someone who drinks socially, can be against vulgarity... yeah right!!!!!

PS: i wont be spoon feeding.. just prove me wrong if you can!!! thats how a discussion is done!!!!!

 

[SSGPA1]

that was quite lame!!! temme which 'facts' do you need links for??

as for the elction results just tell me the website where i can find region based results of the 90s era... tried googling it.. but was of no use.. and till you cant spring up a link, then how can you prove me wrong???

plus many things in my prev. post didnt required any 'facts' like mushy wetting his pants over a phone call (and you blaming me for not believing in our forces!!!)

more here is a link for fata

Federally Administered Tribal Areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

read carefully where it states The Jurisdiction of Supreme Court and High Court of Pakistan does not extend to FATA and Provincially Administered Tribal Areas (PATA), according to Article 247 and Article 248, of existing 1973 Constitution of Pakistan.

The NWFP Provincial Assembly has no power in FATA, and can only exercise its powers in PATA that are part of NWFP. The assembly cannot implement the law directly as it can do in other parts of the province or Settled Areas of NWFP.

mushy against vulgarity??? someone who drinks socially, can be against vulgarity... yeah right!!!!!

PS: i wont be spoon feeding.. just prove me wrong if you can!!! thats how a discussion is done!!!!!

After reading your post I have realized that you also drink socially and that is all I am going to say. Come back afetr passing high school and we will try to have amature discussion.

The guy can't find ECP's website ... amazing

 

[SSGPA1]

 

[VrSoLdIeRs]

After reading your post I have realized that you also drink socially and that is all I am going to say. Come back afetr passing high school and we will try to have amature discussion.

The guy can't find ECP's website ... amazing

i searched the text... it is in the image format.. so bother urself n download it...

1993 elections na 184... Na 187... NA 186... NA 191... NA 192... NA 193... 1997 na 191...

happy??? btw history of pakistan doesnt start at mushy... we did exist before him

and i wont be repplying to you as well.. things are getting way low by my standards.... happy waiting

ps: wonder how come i am always able to put some tails on fire

 

[VrSoLdIeRs]

btw did anyone hear, they strip searched mushy!!! damn these americans, first they take off his soul and dignity... now his pants as well

 

[mohd497]

i was just clearing a point that if it was bloodless, it wasnt a big deal... BB went ppl celeberated.. nawaz went ppl celeberated... mushy went ppl celeberated... and when zardari will do ppl will celeberate!!!

dude its not the case of 'they are still here..' its a case of 'why are they here in the first place'!!!!

selling citizens -> from mushy's own book!!!

civil war -> i dont remember the FATA agencies fighting against the army before mushy came!!!

kashmir-> kargil??? it was mushy who started it yaar!!! peaceful??? apart from 'claims' what have they achieved on
kashmir?? you allowed em to build a fence on the LOC!!! nawaz was in way better terms with india in 98 wasnt he???

blood of innocent-> read my prev. post... didnt i say you would think its worth it

The reasones you describe we can debate on it all day but believe me i have much more to back up my claims than you do.
Well nawaz fanboy lets talk about ground reality pakistan was in miserable stat from 1996 to 1999 even going to be stated as failed state ......from 1999 to 2007 due to musharaf pakistan not only went out from that stat but also grows to be the fastest developing country and there were many things initiated during his gov which makes me proud...........now from 2007 to 2010 ,three years have passed there is a collision gov of ppp and pml i cant see anything they have given to pakistan and all of your previous point must also exert to them now be happy to again support them and ill be happy to support musharraf and yeah it was not musharraf which was insulted by america it is the current gov who are getting there a** wiped off from international community

 

[VrSoLdIeRs]

The reasones you describe we can debate on it all day but believe me i have much more to back up my claims than you do.
Well nawaz fanboy lets talk about ground reality pakistan was in miserable stat from 1996 to 1999 even going to be stated as failed state ......from 1999 to 2007 due to musharaf pakistan not only went out from that stat but also grows to be the fastest developing country and there were many things initiated during his gov which makes me proud...........now from 2007 to 2010 ,three years have passed there is a collision gov of ppp and pml i cant see anything they have given to pakistan and all of your previous point must also exert to them now be happy to again support them and ill be happy to support musharraf and yeah it was not musharraf which was insulted by america it is the current gov who are getting there a** wiped off from international community

brother will all due respect evey govt. claims that last one brought pakistan on the verge of bankruptcy!!!

you can bomb me with figures showing pakistan's progress... but sadly i strongly believe in what i see, and what i saw was prices of everything rising hence creating the gulf between the social classes even more... hence the middle class about to do a disappearing act!!!

plus i aint in fav. of PML or PPP (and they aint a coalition... its mushy darling MQM in the coalition) but i cant stand when people stand up to potray mushy as a hero or something!!!

yeah this govt. aint got mush of international backing... wonder why becuase they are continuing mushy's policies!!!! but the incident i talked about was ironic... you lick american feet, do whatever your masters demand without any return... n still they ask you to take off your pants... ironic!!!

 

[Pakistani Man]

btw did anyone hear, they strip searched mushy!!! damn these americans, first they take off his soul and dignity... now his pants as well

no they did not, stop trolling.