Musharraf episode turns dity; Lawyers barred from meeting

[Safriz]

Thats our 'judiciary' who are not acting within confines of the law.
What a shame.
This is not justice...this is revenge politics.
In his era if judges and lawyers had not behaved as baboons on streets,nothing had happened and no judge had been arrested,so they have only themselves to blame.
Musharraf did the right thing by restraining them as they were law breakers at that time.
Now samw law breakers are hearing his case..how can we expect anything to be done according to the law.
These are thugs in black coats sitting in the courts.

R-I-P Pakistan's legal system.

 

[Sedqal]

corrected for you..

Much obliged. Still why are you showing such selective bias? NS was the elected PM who was dragged to Attock jail in hand cuffs, both of his sons were in jail when they had nothing to do with politics. Compared to what happened to the PM, whats happening to Mushy is peanuts.

 

[RuheTag]

Much obliged. Still why are you showing such selective bias?

because of my perception of right and wrong, same way you find NS and PML-N's judicial wing AKA Supreme court being on the 'right' side.

 

[Sedqal]

because according to my like and dislike, same way you find NS and PML-N's judicial wing aka Supreme court being on the 'right' side.

Then its really not about rule of law or anything you are protesting merely because you like Mushy.

 

[RuheTag]

Then its really not about rule of law or anything you are protesting merely because you like Mushy.

no, it is not just that. If you cant imagine the possibility of 'rule of law's interpretation to pk's todays politics can be different than what you have currently in mind than this discussion is worthless.

 

[Argus Panoptes]

and what did gilani got? 1 second punishment? and what did raja rental got? nothing

we all know how raja rental has done corruption, and how gilani has protected zardari, they did a crime, musharraf didnt do that

Please look at it this way: Both Gilani and Raja had to go through the process prescribed by the courts. Let Gen Musharraf do the same. We can wait for the verdicts and see what they decide.

the same judges were not detained by the PPP and neither were they part to the lal-masjid case.

We have to accept the courts as they exist now, because there is no other choice to select a judiciary.

 

[W.11]

Please look at it this way: Both Gilani and Raja had to go through the process prescribed by the courts. Let Gen Musharraf do the same. We can wait for the verdicts and see what they decide.

you still didnt answer my question what did gilani get, why was pervez raja set free, you set musharraf should go through the process, isnt the process rigged already?

lets add to that what happened to ephedrine case, what happened to arsalan iftekhar case and lots of other cases? what happened to the dead NAB officer who was investigating raja rental, did he got the justice? what happened to the shareef's bakery case

what happened to zardari swiss letter case? what happened to haqqani case? ohh he escaped too

 

[Argus Panoptes]

you still didnt answer my question what did gilani get, why was pervez raja set free, you set musharraf should go through the process, isnt the process rigged already?

lets add to that what happened to ephedrine case, what happened to arsalan iftekhar case and lots of other cases? what happened to the dead NAB officer who was investigating raja rental, did he got the justice? what happened to the shareef's bakery case

what happened to zardari swiss letter case? what happened to haqqani case? ohh he escaped too

All the cases you mention was the result of the courts due process. You may disagree with the results, but the courts have the authority to decide cases as they see fit. They will decide about Gen Musharraf too.

 

[RuheTag]

you still didnt answer my question what did gilani get, why was pervez raja set free, you set musharraf should go through the process, isnt the process rigged already?

lets add to that what happened to ephedrine case, what happened to arsalan iftekhar case and lots of other cases? what happened to the dead NAB officer who was investigating raja rental, did he got the justice? what happened to the shareef's bakery case

what happened to zardari swiss letter case? what happened to haqqani case? ohh he escaped too

ohh no. Thats still ok. We want a set an example here. And because media and Politicians tell us that to prevent any future military coup, it is necessary to punish Musharraf, we have to agree on that.

Kaana's son's case is ok to be slipped because no one in media or any political party picked up. Also, since Jamshed Dasti will likely help NS in forming govt, it is ok to acquit him despite his admission of guilt. Afterall NS does deserve some favours as he helped in restoration in PML-N's judiciary aka supreme court of pakistan.

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[W.11]

All the cases you mention was the result of the courts due process. You may disagree with the results, but the courts have the authority to decide cases as they see fit. They will decide about Gen Musharraf too.

but the courts are not neutral, they are playing politics, can you trust the ourts when they cant provide justice, tell me one major case where the supreme court or high court came out with a verdict and found any big guy convicted?

 

[Safriz]

All the cases you mention was the result of the courts due process. You may disagree with the results, but the courts have the authority to decide cases as they see fit. They will decide about Gen Musharraf too.

But this is not legal procedure.
On first hearing he was called to the court for Article 6 then judge included terrorism charges to tje case which he wasnt even entitled to do.
Its polices responsibility to put forward such charges.
As per law,the judge can only ask police to add charges to an already under hearing case. Then the police has to investigate the new charges,and if sufficient evidence found,they will then file an FIR and then present the person to the court under those new charges.
But in musharraf's case on first hearing the judge went bananas and did something illegal by adding terrorism charges to the case by himself....its not something a judge can do.
Then based on an illegally put case,the judge again did another illegal thing by declaring musharraf 'absconded' which again isnt judges job,the police should have done it..

 

[Argus Panoptes]

but the courts are not neutral, they are playing politics, can you trust the ourts when they cant provide justice, tell me one major case where the supreme court or high court came out with a verdict and found any big guy convicted?

You may be correct, but my point is that when the courts were playing politics against people we personally don't like, why were we not protesting then? Now that they are playing politics against people we do like, then we cannot protest now either. Let the courts do what they will do in this case too.

But this is not legal procedure.
On first hearing he was called to the court for Article 6 then judge included terrorism charges to tje case which he wasnt even entitled to do.
Its polices responsibility to put forward such charges.
As per law,the judge can only ask police to add charges to an already under hearing case. Then the police has to investigate the new charges,and if sufficient evidence found,they will then file an FIR and then present the person to the court under those new charges.
But in musharraf's case on first hearing the judge went bananas and did something illegal by adding terrorism charges to the case by himself....its not something a judge can do.
Then based on an illegally put case,the judge again did another illegal thing by declaring musharraf 'absconded' which again isnt judges job,the police should have done it..

Legal procedure is the purview of the courts. They will decide what is legal and what is not.

 

[Sedqal]

Good luck with Ameer ul momeneen.

I hope you are not Shia, otherwise NS's allies from Jhang will be after you.

Oh no I'm not but Shi'ite brethren had nothing to worry. NS is the ONLY leader who has been attacked twice by LJ because we was serious in eliminating them.

 

[Safriz]

You may be correct, but my point is that when the courts were playing politics against people we personally don't like, why were we not protesting then? Now that they are playing politics against people we do like, then we cannot protest now either. Let the courts do what they will do in this case too.



Legal procedure is the purview of the courts. They will decide what is legal and what is not.

No sir. The law is made in the parliament,not in the court.
The court is there to follow the law,not to make new ones or bend it.

 

[Sedqal]

Will wonders ever cease Dictator apologists discussing finer points of law