Multiple terrorist attacks rock Sindh today

[PakSword]

People who are criticizing Pakistan Army leadership should realize that many terrorist attacks are stopped by the forces through proactive actions. Problem is, those successful ops aren't listed by any media and that's why when 1 out of 10 is failed, we start bashing the army leadership.

We should understand that we have India on one side and Afghanistan on another where multiple foreign agencies are still working. We have sellouts among elected and non elected politicians. We have pressures of not taking action freely against miscreants because we are indebted to the countries that finance imf and world bank. We have an enemy that has been recently humiliated by one of our allies in a region that we claim is ours.

Just wait and see.. Our diplomacy and working relationship with our allies has brought immense pressure on our enemies. We have defeated our enemies' designs in Afghanistan already after a long long struggle. Don't forget about these successes. Chinese aggression on India is not an isolated event believe me.

We are at war and casualties happen in a war. The only difference is that it's not an open war, but it is a war... a continuous war. If you guys start demanding change in leadership after every small incident, what will you demand when an open war is declared and when enemy starts shooting missiles at us.. Will we still demand changes in leadership? Consider this a war please and get ready to accept many such incidents.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Consider this a war please and get ready to accept many such incidents.

Other side must get this type of response too

 

[Aspen]

Other side must get this type of response too

They will not stop unless they get 2x or 3x what they are doing to us. We need to handle India like PLA.

Use overwhelming force against India, more than what is necessary.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

They will not stop unless they get 2x or 3x what they are doing to us. We need to handle India like PLA.

Or maybe Pulvama

 

[PakSword]

Other side must get this type of response too

Think strategically.. Think about our successes in Afghanistan and our successful diplomacy. Carrying out similar attacks will help the enemy only.. But they might be carried out when the right time comes.

Many of you don't know what Chinese have said to India.. They have said that their border with India is two thousand something kilometers long.. not three thousand something kilometers.. which indirectly means that they consider rest of the border connecting with Pakistan. This is the reality which no Pakistani and Indian channel will show you..

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

hey have said that their border with India is two thousand something kilometers long.. not three thousand something kilometers

That was said in 2010 If I remember?

 

[In arduis fidelis]

We are at war and casualties happen in a war. The only difference is that it's not an open war, but it is a war... a continuous war. If you guys start demanding change in leadership after every small incident, what will you demand when an open war is declared and when enemy starts shooting missiles at us.. Will we still demand changes in leadership? Consider this a war please and get ready to accept many such incidents.

I would like to differ in my opinion here.
When you say its a war and there will be casualties whenever any hostile agency wants them to be you are basically implying that our forces learned nothing in this brutal fight since last 2 decades ,we haven't developed any capability to counter these threats and these activities only stopped because hostile agencies weren't carrying them out.
So what exactly have we been doing since 2001 if these activities can be carried out with impunity and at the discretion of whoever the F**k wakes up one day and decides we have to blow shyt up in a city in Pakistan?

 

[PakSword]

That was said in 2010 If I remember?

They used to say 3000+ kilometers.. recently they have made it clear that the area even after the LAC is not considered INDIA..

 

[Aspen]

Or maybe Pulvama

We need to go bigger.

At some point, I start to see parallels between Pakistan and Iran situation.

Iran did proxy war against US in Iraq for a long time, then they finally took gloves off and hit US airbase with missiles directly from Iran.

I think Pakistan is in a similar situation to Iran where we have been doing proxy war for a while but we need to go bigger and show India that we can take the gloves off. India has already done more than enough to justify PA taking direct military action against India instead of by proxy.

Pulwama was good but now its pretty clear that Indians will keep escalating unless they are forced to back down like Feb 27 and Galwan clashes.

Better idea than doing another Pulwama is to send a clear message. If India decides to go on another misadventure like Balakot, in response hit strategic locations in India with some missiles directly from Pakistan and threaten a 3x bigger response if they fire back. At first it will seem dangerous but creating deterrence in the beginning is absolutely necessary.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

a Middle Eastern country & a EU country is involved in funds transfer

Most Probably UAE and France

 

[Aspen]

Many of you don't know what Chinese have said to India.. They have said that their border with India is two thousand something kilometers long.. not three thousand something kilometers.. which indirectly means that they consider rest of the border connecting with Pakistan. This is the reality which no Pakistani and Indian channel will show you..

Yes I have heard this as well in Pravin Sawhney's video, China has said that they do not have a border with India in Ladakh implying that it connects only with Pakistan.

 

[American Pakistani]

Until and Unless Nationalist Traitors are not removed, these things are bound to happen

Yes, true. Also many politicians support them.

But look at RS he annihilate them if they even move a finger. That's how it got controlled.

 

[PakSword]

I would like to differ in my opinion here.
When you say its a war and there will be casualties whenever any hostile agency wants them to be you are basically implying that our forces learned nothing in this brutal fight since last 2 decades ,we haven't developed any capability to counter these threats and these activities only stopped because hostile agencies weren't carrying them out.
So what exactly have we been doing since 2001 if these activities can be carried out with impunity and at the discretion of whoever the F**k wakes up one day and decides we have to blow shyt up in a city in Pakistan?

It's a covert war my friend.

You don't have a complete list of all successful operations.. you don't have the complete list of all diplomatic wins (and losses too).

You are up against not only India, but many other MAJOR powers.. we should be thankful to Allah that we are surviving.. and have defeated the designs on our western side..

You have CIA/ RAW/ NDS/ and many other agencies working against you.. You have MI6 that regularly gives refuge to agents that have left no opportunity to deestablize Pakistan..

Just learn to appreciate what we have done in the past 2 decades please.. You shouldn't expect that with all the enemies working side by side.. and with the limited resources and a significant percentage of population that is against giving an additional dime in the budget to defence forces.. you are not only surviving but surviving well.

Yes, true. Also many politicians support them.

But look at RS he annihilate them if they even move a finger. That's how it got controlled.

It didn't happen overnight.. you can't start killing enemy agents right away my friend.. They have external support.. When you pick up the terrorists.. whole world starts propaganda against you.. remember missing persons.. Imagine if you start picking the likes of JSQM leadership.. We eliminated Bugti and that proved a mistake for the years to come..

It's a long war.. just be patient and focus on your goals..

 

[darksider]

We need to go bigger.

At some point, I start to see parallels between Pakistan and Iran situation.

Iran did proxy war against US in Iraq for a long time, then they finally took gloves off and hit US airbase with missiles directly from Iran.

I think Pakistan is in a similar situation to Iran where we have been doing proxy war for a while but we need to go bigger and show India that we can take the gloves off. India has already done more than enough to justify PA taking direct military action against India instead of by proxy.

Pulwama was good but now its pretty clear that Indians will keep escalating unless they are forced to back down like Feb 27 and Galwan clashes.

Better idea than doing another Pulwama is to send a clear message. If India decides to go on another misadventure like Balakot, in response hit strategic locations in India with some missiles directly from Pakistan and threaten a 3x bigger response if they fire back. At first it will seem dangerous but creating deterrence in the beginning is absolutely necessary.

We need to introduce ied in the kashmir struggle to blow their vehicles like palwama attack.
They are hitting us with ieds from some time now and huge numbers of our soldiers got shahadat.

 

[313ghazi]

Bhai am not qualified for such a big job.

Haven't said before, but I can assure you, Gen Bajwa is no less than Gen Raheel.... It's not that I'm a big fan of any one of them.... But do give me this much credit that we in the armed forces do know what have been our responses...

Let me assure you, if I start listing down here all the responses, both domestic and across borders, you all will be surprised and would be even more proud....

Most of you are mature and sensible to know that our military can't divulge all such responses openly...

But let me assure you.... Like you guys here, the hearts of armed forces personal burn equally on such activities..... Therefore it CAN'T happen that no response is there from our side..... And normally we do reach up to the enemy leadership tier.

Let's wait for the riposte then.

You see the big in bold bothers me. Unless we are doing something covert across enemy borders, or extra judicial internally (which i'm all for btw), I just don't see it's all so hush-hush.