Mourn idea of India, but don’t forget that the idea of people is changing too

[samv]

Would you say the equivalent for Saudia ?

Saudi is not a democracy though. Whereas Indians have voted in the BJP.

If Saudi Arabia gets to flaunt its Islam, why not India flaunt its Hinduism?

 

[jamahir]

Saudi is not a democracy though. Whereas Indians have voted in the BJP.

If Saudi Arabia gets to flaunt its Islam, why not India flaunt its Hinduism?

Firstly, a country just having five-yearly elections doesn't make it a democracy. USA is a two-party capitalist dictatorship. India is a many-party capitalist dictatorship.

Secondly, many people in India in the last two elections have elected a religion-based party and that makes India a majoritarian dictatorship which many a time acts against the opinions or desires of minorities, whether they be Muslims, Dalits or the socialists / progressives. Didn't you read about the after-effects of the Delhi riots where the Delhi Police, which is controlled by the Central Home Ministry, putting legal cases upon progressives like Umar Khalid and Sitaram Yechury just because these people voiced against ( or supposedly ) the proposed CAA act and participated in sit-ins ? All this while elements of the central ruling party or those indirectly connected, have been clearly known to incite rioters in the same Delhi riots ?

Four progressives have been assassinated since 2013 and many jailed ( even one person who is disabled from waist down ), yet the Western governments are not bothered. The 2002 Gujarat riots had more than ( officially ) 1000 Muslims killed and the early 2020 Delhi riots had majority Muslims killed. In 2011 in Libya and Syria the governments acted against Western-trained terrorists and then the Western governments built a case for military intervention in those two countries. What about in India ?

Let me conclude by saying that Modi was sanctioned against travel to the USA because of his role in the 2002 Gujarat riots. In 2014 when he became PM the American government opened the door for his visit.

 

[-=virus=-]

You have a habit to throw irrelevant albeit stupid words pretending it's a sentence let alone a meaningful/relevant one?

no, just super busy with stuff.

India is a great country, your country too.. this is not some XYZ supremacist anything, what utter communist nonsense are some people here sprouting ?

feck these xeuss type crypto talibanis

watch Yuri Bezmenov ke videos

India will not allow these insurrectionist enemy nutjobs to have their way.

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@samv machan, thank you for your thoughtful commentary on this thread, despite any differences in policy or at the state level, you guys, us, the Burmese and Nepal (gotta get rid of the commies there).. we all stand together, strong.

 

[letsrock]

Phan shesh naag ka dolega

Duryodhan !

Yudh yoga, aisa hoga ki fir kabhi nahi hoga !



dekhte reh jaoge, Mr Matthew Bukhari

Phan shesh naag ka dolega

Duryodhan !

Yudh yoga, aisa hoga ki fir kabhi nahi hoga !



dekhte reh jaoge, Mr Matthew Bukhari

what ? stupid brahminical curses when showed how irrelevant gasbag he is. Go stand in visa line and preach your patriotism.

 

[-=virus=-]

what ? stupid brahminical curses when showed how irrelevant gasbag he is. Go stand in visa line and preach your patriotism.

Matthew Bukhari

Jacob Khan

lol

 

[Ajay Ghatak]

That 'explanation' doesn't help; respecting the beliefs of Hindus should not come at the cost of withdrawing respect from others.

In Pakistan, does respecting Islam comes at a cost of withdrawing respect from others?
Well, yes it does. When Islam clashes with other religion in Pakistan, Islam wins.

Hence, in India same should have to Islam and Christianity wrt Hinduism, Sikhi, Buddhism. Fullstop.

 

[Ajay Ghatak]

Further, whose definition of beliefs of Hindus are we to go by?

Its simple, if the conflict is between foreign religions like Islam and Christianity and native religions, then native religions win, no question asked. For instance, if Hindus believe there is a temple converted to mosque, mosque needs to go away and replaced by temple that stood there. Simple as that.

If the conflict is between believes of two different school of thoughts of same religion or two different native religions. The local native religion to state or the local belief takes precedence. Most of the time, local believes converges on all major issues.

 

[Ajay Ghatak]

Furthermore, the image of clearly demarcated 'Hindu' zones and 'Muslim' ghettos smacks of the raw, naked fascism that colours much of the thinking of the religious right.

Does the same happen in Pakistan with respect to Hindus? Well same should happen in India for Islam and Christianity. What is so hard to understand in that?

 

[Ajay Ghatak]

At least those hell-hounds Kapil Mishra, Anurag Thakur and their hooligan bands had no such double-speak; their message was clear, there is no space for anyone other than that sliver of uppercaste Hindus.

There is no space for Islam and Christianity in Indian polity. No voting rights for these folks. No government office for these folks. Simple as that.

 

[Ajay Ghatak]

Firstly, a country just having five-yearly elections doesn't make it a democracy. USA is a two-party capitalist dictatorship. India is a many-party capitalist dictatorship.

When every god damn person in a country is a dictator, that dictatorship is called democracy. Plain and Simple. There is nothing like multi-party dictatorship. By definition dictatorship dictates rules by a single source of power.

 

[Ajay Ghatak]

Secondly, many people in India in the last two elections have elected a religion-based party and that makes India a majoritarian dictatorship which many a time acts against the opinions or desires of minorities, whether they be Muslims, Dalits or the socialists / progressives.

In past, secular beliefs have been dictated on Hindu majority by foreign trained terrorists like Nehru, Gandhi and Ambedkar. Ambedkar infact lost election after writing his constitution and never won a popular mandate ever. Why his secular constitution be forced upon the Hindu population who was never in favour of such a pathetic and simply insane stupidity that Indian constitution is.

The word secular was inserted in pre-emble of Indian constitution by force and undemocratic dictatorial channel during emergency. It is mighty clear that entire secularism is forced on Indian population. Is it surprising that they finally realized such and threw those evil progressives out.

 

[Ajay Ghatak]

Four progressives have been assassinated since 2013 and many jailed ( even one person who is disabled from waist down ), yet the Western governments are not bothered. The 2002 Gujarat riots had more than ( officially ) 1000 Muslims killed and the early 2020 Delhi riots had majority Muslims killed. In 2011 in Libya and Syria the governments acted against Western-trained terrorists and then the Western governments built a case for military intervention in those two countries. What about in India ?

Blacks have been killed and imprisoned in the west since antiquity. Why there should not be a military intervention against west? When you will answer it, you will know why there cann't be a military intervention against India. LOL!

 

[Ajay Ghatak]

Let me conclude by saying that Modi was sanctioned against travel to the USA because of his role in the 2002 Gujarat riots. In 2014 when he became PM the American government opened the door for his visit.

Current sitting persident in USA has turned a blind eye against all the rioting and loss of life and property of American minorities. Is he banned from entering any country after that? If he is not then why Modi should be mistreated?

 

[Ajay Ghatak]

Four progressives have been assassinated since 2013 and many jailed ( even one person who is disabled from waist down ), yet the Western governments are not bothered.

Children were jailed, separated from their parent, abused and many were killed by US government on US soil. Who the hell they are to pass judgement on the rest of the world?

 

[Ajay Ghatak]

Firstly, a country just having five-yearly elections doesn't make it a democracy. USA is a two-party capitalist dictatorship. India is a many-party capitalist dictatorship.

If none of these are democracies, then democracy is like a stupid unicorn sitting in an ivory tower. Impractical concept which does not exists in reality.