Mourn idea of India, but don’t forget that the idea of people is changing too

[lightoftruth]

All that is just retro-fitting some familiar looking things from IVC to a few elements in current Hindu culture.

From the Wikipedia page for "Indus script" :



Here is an engraving of an "ancient astronaut" :


Should this be taken at face value ?

Hindus don't need your approval,
But the sheer ignorance of facts just because it doesn't fit the "agenda" just defined who you are as a person.

IVC is a dharmic civilization irrespective of how much you and your pakistani friends cry nothing can change that.

What's intriguing is the insecurity that you donot belong to the native dharmic religions of this great civilization and continuous need to undermine it's Presence,Greatness and it's Dharmic roots.

You can call it astronaut or whatever no one cares....the facts I presented can be seen in national museum Delhi and are widely accepted by the world.

 

[jamahir]

Hindus don't need your approval,
But the sheer ignorance of facts just because it doesn't fit the "agenda" just defined who you are as a person.

IVC is a dharmic civilization irrespective of how much you and your pakistani friends cry nothing can change that.

You are brainwashed.

What's intriguing is the insecurity that you donot belong to the native dharmic religions of this great civilization

Where's my insecurity ? I am comfortably and calmly a Muslim-birth communist who can appreciate say the musical traditions of Uzbekistan, India and West Africa.

and continuous need to undermine it's Presence,Greatness and it's Dharmic roots.

Continuous ? More like incidental. I am not creating thread after thread disproving the supposed Dharmic roots of IVC.

You can call it astronaut or whatever no one cares....the facts I presented can be seen in national museum Delhi and are widely accepted by the world.

"No one" is a certain set of people. And doesn't matter if a Delhi museum makes "Dharmic IVC" "official" by retro-fitting IVC elements to modern Hindu elements. This is no different than the BJP member Tripura Chief Minister Biplab Deb saying that internet and satellite technology was present during the supposed Mahabharata war which before that has been said to have involved atomic weapons and directed energy weapons.

Your ideas should become more credible than this.

 

[KurtisBrian]

Here is an engraving of an "ancient astronaut" :

Should this be taken at face value ?

Doesn't matter if it is true or not. Given any other choice, no being will return to a place where they were cheated. to die and cause your enemies to die or to submit and raise up the evil thieves who destroyed you and your family? Better to die and take everything away.

 

[jamahir]

Doesn't matter if it is true or not. Given any other choice, no being will return to a place where they were cheated. to die and cause your enemies to die or to submit and raise up the evil thieves who destroyed you and your family? Better to die and take everything away.

That was too cryptic. Who are the cheaters, enemies and thieves ?

 

[KurtisBrian]

That was too cryptic. Who are the cheaters, enemies and thieves ?

Sorry, I will try to be clearer.

Maybe I am wrong but isn't what I wrote the story of Indra (or one of the "Gods" or the Indus Valley civ)? I read an article a long time ago. It was about a god in the Indus Valley who was robbed by "demons" (those would be the thieves and enemies that I wrote about). That god then left the Indus Valley in a huff. The result was all the other Gods disappeared and the Indus Valley civ was destroyed.

Myths portray the Gods as emotionally like people but times 10 or 100. When they are nice they are super nice. When they are angry they very mean. So a "God" or whatever they are is not going to forget or forgive being cheated.

I wrote all that to show that if some "spaceman" god was once in the Indus Valley he is not coming back. In my opinion, because he is not coming back what was or was not is irrelevant.

 

[jamahir]

Maybe I am wrong but isn't what I wrote the story of Indra (or one of the "Gods" or the Indus Valley civ)? I read an article a long time ago. It was about a god in the Indus Valley who was robbed by "demons" (those would be the thieves and enemies that I wrote about). That god then left the Indus Valley in a huff. The result was all the other Gods disappeared and the Indus Valley civ was destroyed.

Ah.

Nevertheless there is no exact archaeological proof that IVC had anything to do with Vedic Hinduism.

Myths portray the Gods as emotionally like people but times 10 or 100. When they are nice they are super nice. When they are angry they very mean. So a "God" or whatever they are is not going to forget or forgive being cheated.

Yes that is true across world cultures.

I wrote all that to show that if some "spaceman" god was once in the Indus Valley he is not coming back. In my opinion, because he is not coming back what was or was not is irrelevant.

No, that spaceman god I didn't present as someone from IVC. He is either from Egypt or South / Central America.

 

[lightoftruth]

You are brainwashed.

Well that is just pot calling the kettle black !

Where's my insecurity ? I am comfortably and calmly a Muslim-birth communist who can appreciate say the musical traditions of Uzbekistan, India and West Africa.
Continuous ? More like incidental. I am not creating thread after thread disproving the supposed Dharmic roots of IVC.

Your adjectives have too many oxymorons which accurately identifies the confusion in your identity and the continuous need of denial of Dharmic roots of IVC which i mentioned earlier, can i suggest reading few books ? maybe even NCERT's.

"No one" is a certain set of people. And doesn't matter if a Delhi museum makes "Dharmic IVC" "official" by retro-fitting IVC elements to modern Hindu elements. This is no different than the BJP member Tripura Chief Minister Biplab Deb saying that internet and satellite technology was present during the supposed Mahabharata war which before that has been said to have involved atomic weapons and directed energy weapons.

Your ideas should become more credible than this.

That set of people are called ecosystem,when your life exist in one ,everyone outside seems to be brainwashed etc
Between what is modern Hindu elements ?,that is some left definition i missed to ignore ?

 

[jamahir]

Your adjectives have too many oxymorons which accurately identifies the confusion in your identity

And what are those oxymorons ?

Actually your thinking is too limited and thus unable to comprehend that human taste, knowledge and brotherhood can cross geographical boundaries. I speak of pan-human communism and you keep speaking Dharmic things. I wonder how you would fare when talking to a practiced speaker like Kanhaiya Kumar.

can i suggest reading few books ? maybe even NCERT's.

Why don't you directly suggest something by PN Oak ?

Between what is modern Hindu elements ?,that is some left definition i missed to ignore ?

You mentioned sindoor, yoga and other things. These are more modern compared to IVC.