Most of Vietnam’s major projects in Chinese hands

[beijingwalker]

when Japan concluded the Treaty of Taipei with the ROC in 1952, Chiang Kai-shek waived reparations for the World War II. Similarly, when Japan normalized relations with mainland China in 1972, Mao Zedong waived Japan’s reparations for World War II.[30] According a Japanese Sinologist calculation Japan would have to pay 52 trillion yen.[31] However, when the Qing dynasty lost the war in 1894-95 and the Boxer Rebellion in 1900, according to Yabuki Susumu, the PRC paid a total 289,540,000 taels[32] of silver to Japan, despite the weak economy of the Qing dynasty. Even though Japan had great economic power in 1972 (GNP $300 billion), Japan did not pay any money to the PRC for the war because China waived all rights to reparations.

Mao's blunder indeed.otherwise Japan would've went bankrupt.

 

[beijingwalker]

you see that,Vietnamese guy,China was so nice to Japan just like used to be so nice to you and gave you 20$ billion for free.at that time Japan's whole year GDP wouldnt be enough to pay for the reparation they owed to China.

 

[NiceGuy]

Japanese loans mean nothing to China,it's a history issue,after the war,Japan had to pay huge reparation to compensate the damage of war to China,a sum so huge that Japan cant afford ,and in the 70s,China wrote off the war debt of Japan(still being criticized as mao's blunder now in China),to show the gratitude of China's generosity,Japan,out of gratitude,each year issue low interest loan to China.sounds better for loans than reparation,dosent it,ha.but that money is nothing,it's only a token of the gratitude.

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But using ODA means CHina still poor , still a beggar of the world only , so China should bow down and send a special thank to Japan emperor now

 

[NiceGuy]

where was it the last time where chinese were slaughtered l? Thailand or Vietnam ? I'm confused anybody who can help me

It's in Indonesia , but don't use bad words toward those poor CHinese , pls

 

[beijingwalker]

But using ODA means CHina still poor , still a beggar of the world only , so China should bow down and send a special thank to Japan emperor now

haha,that's just a small portion of money they owed us,it is our money,and not all.

China waived its demand for war indemnities from Japan. (This demand was first made in the mid-1950s; the war reparations claims totaled as much as the equivalent of US$50 billion.) Diplomatic relations were to be established as of September 29, 1972. Japan and China also agreed to hold negotiations aimed at the conclusion not only of a treaty of peace and friendship but also at agreements on trade, shipping, air transportation, and fisheries. Sino-Japanese trade grew rapidly after 1972. In January 1974, a three-year trade agreement--the first of several working agreements covering civil air transportation, shipping, fisheries, and trademarks--was signed. Arrangements for technical cooperation, cultural exchange, and consular matters were also undertaken.

US$50 billion,have to think about the exchange rate at that time.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

where was it the last time where chinese were slaughtered like swine? Thailand or Vietnam ? I'm confused anybody who can help me

These Indonesian Chinese renounced their Chinese identity and publically denounced CCP, but later they got slaughtered by the Indonesian natives.

So there was nothing that CCP can do to help these folks who hated their own motherland.

 

[NiceGuy]

haha,that's just a small portion of money they owed us,it is our money,and not all.


US$50 billion,have to think about the exchange rate at that time.

So you means CHinese's life can buy by Japan Yen ??

 

[beijingwalker]

saying Japan helped China is riduculous and totally ignorant of the history,they owed us huge money and still hasnt paid back.

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lives can not be bought,but you know what is reparation,dont you?that's the money that should pay to us,and China in some way saved Japan other than what you claimed.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

saying Japan helped China is riduculous and totally ignorant of the history,they owed us huge money and still hasnt paid back.

Later Japan will beg us to save their entire nation as the nuclear radiation is getting worse on their soil.

 

[beijingwalker]

but anyway that's history,dont have to dwell on that,back to the main point of the report,now,at this moment,China controls your economy,like it or not,that's the hard fact.

 

[QDNDVN]

but anyway that's history,dont have to dwell on that,back to the main point of the report,now,at this moment,China controls your economy,like it or not,that's the hard fact.

Let me be clear to you and the rest of Chinese people to understand. Yes, the majors of economic in Vietnam base on the grownth of China. That's a fact and can not be denial, but the bad part for China if China countinued to squeeze Vietnam and turn Vietnam no elsewhere to goes.

As in Vietnam Government party right now still has a large group pro-China and only small group pro-West, that's a reason why China still control Vietnam economic for whatever reasons.

A true patriotics and speacialy Vietnamese people doese not want to deal with China base on the bloodies history for both countries. Because a large group pro-China still control the Vietnam Government, so Vietnamese people has no choice even they just protest to anti-China for U shape.

Anything will have limit, and even pro-China group will thinking back if China push and pushed them nowhere to turn. Honestly, once day if Vietnam could get rid deal with China for any caused, that's a day will bring the Vietnamese peole the happiness ever .. and ever. Sad but true.

 

[below_freezing]

Let me be clear to you and the rest of Chinese people to understand. Yes, the majors of economic in Vietnam base on the grownth of China. That's a fact and can not be denial, but the bad part for China if China countinued to squeeze Vietnam and turn Vietnam no elsewhere to goes.

As in Vietnam Government party right now still has a large group pro-China and only small group pro-West, that's a reason why China still control Vietnam economic for whatever reasons.

A true patriotics and speacialy Vietnamese people doese not want to deal with China base on the bloodies history for both countries. Because a large group pro-China still control the Vietnam Government, so Vietnamese people has no choice even they just protest to anti-China for U shape.

Anything will have limit, and even pro-China group will thinking back if China push and pushed them nowhere to turn. Honestly, once day if Vietnam could get rid deal with China for any caused, that's a day will bring the Vietnamese peole the happiness ever .. and ever. Sad but true.

just remember how Vietnamese many were killed and robbed by white Americans. Maybe if we killed and gassed 4 million Viets, you'd love us the same way you love white Americans.

 

[ChinaToday]

So you means CHinese's life can buy by Japan Yen ??

your full of bs is really lower the standard of this forum i dont know why mod still allow troll like you here.

 

[QDNDVN]

just remember how Vietnamese many were killed and robbed by white Americans. Maybe if we killed and gassed 4 million Viets, you'd love us the same way you love white Americans.

Belive me, if American Government turns bad to Vietnam then there is a WILL for Vietnam, but if American Gov doing as a friend then they are welcome. Vietnam forgive what American did but will not forget.

There is no maybe if you gas us, you just don't know after Vietnam-US war Vietnam trophy alot of chemical weapons in stock pile and included Orange Agent. Dare you not!

 

[NiceGuy]

your full of bs is really lower the standard of this forum i dont know why mod still allow troll like you here.

Oh, it's not my fault , beijingwalker said: 'Japan ODA is war indemnities' , so it means Japan use Yen to pay for millions CHinese's life during WW 2 , right ??

lbut anyway that's history,dont have to dwell on that,back to the main point of the report,now,at this moment,China controls your economy,like it or not,that's the hard fact..

Yep, we must accept the hard fact that: CHina borrow Japan Yen to control VN economy