Constantin84
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And the reconstitutes by another? It remained under Muslim rule till the 19th century didnt it? As for crusades... we all know how much Christian those crusading fks were now dont we?What about the Caliph who destroyed the Church of the Holy Sepulchure thus initiating the Crusades?
Google it and see what you find.....zilch historical evidence other than a piece of paper way newer than the 15th century
I'm not defending them, they even ransacked Constantinople but they were given pretext by that madman who forbade Christians in Jerusalem and destroyed their Church.And the reconstitutes by another? It remained under Muslim rule till the 19th century didnt it? As for crusades... we all know how much Christian those crusading fks were now dont we?
Find me one reputed source for its confirmation....other than the daily sabah and Turkish newspapers I can't find anythingYou first said...."no reputed historian"....now you are saying "google"
All I ask is, please show me a "reputed historian" that has cast doubt on the veracity of the purchase document.
Allegedly by a fatmid ruler, considered a retard.. who changed more ideologies than a baby changes diapers.Who?
Did you read the wiki page you posted?I'm not defending them, they even ransacked Constantinople but they were given pretext by that madman who forbade Christians in Jerusalem and destroyed their Church.
Find me one reputed source for its confirmation....other than the daily sabah and Turkish newspapers I can't find anything
Find us the reputable historian who denies it?I'm not defending them, they even ransacked Constantinople but they were given pretext by that madman who forbade Christians in Jerusalem and destroyed their Church.
Find me one reputed source for its confirmation....other than the daily sabah and Turkish newspapers I can't find anything
Nope...Muslims attacked first, let's stick to historical truth.
These documents are forgeries, it wasn't sold by anyone.
Find me one reputed source for its confirmation....other than the daily sabah and Turkish newspapers I can't find anything
If I write a piece of paper that I own your house it won't make it so.That is really not how it works. The Turks are in possession of a document. You are casting doubts on its authenticity. The onus is on you to prove that this document is fraudulent. You can quote other historians or accounts or books to buttress your claim. You cannot support your claim by saying that the Turks need to prove its authenticity.
There is no historical record of the Church selling the building, no historical evidence not even from contemporary Turkish sources,just those papers who don't really look like they're from the 15th century but much newer.If a transaction was held there wouldn't be any uproar....those are just some cheap propaganda leaflets.
My problem with this whole affair is that a self proclaimed modern secular state like Turkey pulls this cheap trick in 2020.If they would have left it a mosque since 1453 uninterrupted I would have had no issue.
Literally the entire history of all European colonial powers.If I write a piece of paper that I own your house it won't make it so.
And even if you do have an issue, what exactly can you do about it?
If I write a piece of paper that I own your house it won't make it so.
Power to you bro.
Whenever something that makes Islam stronger is done it is booed down by International tattttooos.
But when other people do same stuff it is heralded as acts that will benefit the world.
Not really much...just like you with Jerusalem, established facts are here to stay.
Maybe cutting flow of EU tourists to Turkey, like this year would be a starting ideea.
Nope...Muslims attacked first, let's stick to historical truth.
We need to let go of this childish shit.
Back in the day all of ME was Christian and not Muslim.
We need to look from different perspectives.
That's a good goy. You're welcome to listen to azan in Hagia Sophia any time though.
What you write is within the realm of possibility, but until more evidence emerges to support your claims, we will have to consider those documents are authentic.