Mosques of Europe which were turned into churches

[masterchief_mirza]

Nope...Muslims attacked first, let's stick to historical truth.

Unsubstantiated.

What exactly are you basing this on?

Before the battle of Yarmouk, and before Arab advances out of the hijaz and into the middle east proper to militarily confront the Byzantine military, the Ghassanids, a christianised vassal state of the Byzantine Christians actually murdered a Muslim envoy from Arabia. Muhammad (swt) responded to this aggression against a diplomat.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Not really much...just like you with Jerusalem, established facts are here to stay.
Maybe cutting flow of EU tourists to Turkey, like this year would be a starting ideea.

might makes right.

 

[Constantin84]

Unsubstantiated.

What exactly are you basing this on?

Before the battle of Yarmouk, and before Arab advances out of the hijaz and into the middle east proper to militarily confront the Byzantine military, the Ghassanids, a christianised vassal state of the Byzantine Christians actually murdered a Muslim envoy from Arabia. Muhammad (swt) responded to this aggression against a diplomat.

A rival Arab tribe,albeit Christians,kill an envoy....Muslims attack the Byzantine empire, Spain,.Europe....sounds fair.What about when Christians shielded the Prophet from its pursueers? No gratitude for that?

 

[masterchief_mirza]

A rival Arab tribe,albeit Christians,kill an envoy....Muslims attack the Byzantine empire, Spain,.Europe....sounds fair.

Point taken....but world wars have started with single assassinations.

 

[Constantin84]

Point taken....but world wars have started with single assassinations.

Or, we might accept that Muslims, like others before and after, were after plunder and conquering. They were no better in their glory days than European colonists who went sword in hand to plunder the world.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Or, we might accept that Muslims, like others before and after, were after plunder and conquering. They were no better in their glory days than European colonists who went sword in hand to plunder the world.

I agree that medieval era Muslims and Christians were quite similar in many respects, military expansionism being one of them.

 

[UkroTurk]

This act would legitimate Israel, If Israel converted Mescid-i Aqsa to synagogue.

Why dont you dare critizing destroyed Salomon temple?

 

[Constantin84]

I agree that medieval era Muslims and Christians were quite similar in many respects, military expansionism being one of them.

And both being driven by their Abrahamic beliefs and the supreme conviction that God is on their side.

 

[Safriz]

Right after all conquerors before them do the same.
I do apologise that Europeans fought back against Islamic invaders and drove them out but it happened...

Finny thing is that religion is not ethnicity.
Many Muslims were native to the lands.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Finny thing is that religion is not ethnicity.
Many Muslims were native to the lands.

Also a very important point.

 

[Constantin84]

Finny thing is that religion is not ethnicity.
Many Muslims were native to the lands.

That's to bad. Many French colonists were born in Algeria but they, and many Algerians who helped them, were forced to leave when the natives won the liberation struggle.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

We need to let go of this childish shit.

Back in the day all of ME was Christian and not Muslim.

We need to look from different perspectives.

Reality is much different than this even. Look up Arian controversy. ME Christians were excommunicated by Rome and harassed, killed for believing in the humanity of Jesus.

No doubt Islam was accepted so quickly in the Holy Land and Egypt.

This act would legitimate Israel, If Israel converted Mescid-i Aqsa to synagogue.

Why dont you dare critizing destroyed Salomon temple?

Europeans have no problem with Israel seizing Al Aqsa and Bait us Sukhra, but they cry over Ayasofya.

 

[Constantin84]

Reality is much different than this even. Look up Arian controversy. ME Christians were excommunicated by Rome and harassed, killed for believing in the humanity of Jesus.

No doubt Islam was accepted so quickly in the Holy Land and Egypt.



Europeans have no problem with Israel seizing Al Aqsa and Bait us Sukhra, but they cry over Ayasofya.

It took 500 years for Islam to become the main religion in Egypt......mucho rapido

 

[ziaulislam]

That was a natural thing to do as Christians RETOOK their lands back from Islamic invaders, it has no resemblance to the situation of Hagia Sophia.
When Spaniards,Portuguese, Serbs, Greeks, etc kick the invaders out they're cruel, when Algerians do it, they're heroes

most Muslims were slaughtered INCLUDING CONVERTS who converted willingly and their children

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Reality is much different than this even. Look up Arian controversy. ME Christians were excommunicated by Rome and harassed, killed for believing in the humanity of Jesus.

No doubt Islam was accepted so quickly in the Holy Land and Egypt.



Europeans have no problem with Israel seizing Al Aqsa and Bait us Sukhra, but they cry over Ayasofya.

Very true. The ghassanids themselves were a slightly different sect to the byzantines, resulting in friction.