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Morsi role, destabilizing Palestine leadership: Analyst
An analyst says the Gaza truce makes Egypt responsible for ensuring Hamas is controlled and this favors the imperialistic Zionist agenda with no real benefit for Gazans.
After several days of an Israeli military offensive that failed to achieve its objectives against surprising strength in Palestinian resistance, Israel announced a ceasefire earlier in the week and an Egyptian-brokered truce has been agreed to by all parties.
Press TV has interviewed Mr. Ralph Schoenman, political commentator and author of the Hidden History of Zionism from Berkeley, who puts forward his views about the consequences of this Israel Palestine truce that was brokered by Egypt. Also a guest in this interview is Mr. Allen Roland, online columnist also from California. The following is an approximate transcription of the interview.
Press TV: How do you see this truce in its entirety?
Schoenman: Well, I think we have to look at the underlying politics here. The New York Times spelled this out when it stated that the crisis threatens to complicate and divert attention from our international attempts to deal with the threat of Iran and the Syrian civil war while marginalizing moderate Palestinians due to the reaction of Palestinians in the West Bank.
It also stated that the war in Gaza destabilizes two regimes: the Hashemite monarchy in Jordan and the Palestine authority led by Mahmoud Abbas in the Israeli occupied West Bank.
Given the response of the Palestinian population in the West Bank in denouncing the role of Mahmoud Abbas, Washington fears the continuation of the Gaza attack could spark greater unrest directed not only at Israel, but at the impotent corrupt regime of the Palestinian Authority as well. Those are the underlying dynamics here.
But I would like to emphasize that the Daily Telegraph and Time Magazine have spelled out the role of Egypt and of Mohammed Morsi in this truce. Quote, "When the moment of truth came... the conservative Daily Telegraph in London writes, ... the Egyptian leadership moved responsibly in clearly attempting to restore stability in conjunction with the United States".
Not only that... says analyst Michael Wahid Hanna of the Century Foundation, Egypt's government has put its international credibility on the line by effectively undertaking to ensure that Hamas is controlled and observes the terms of its ceasefire. This is a profoundly important change.
And it goes on, This is an essential partnership in clamping down Palestinian violence. - Former US ambassador to Israel Martin Hindick. Between the United States and Egypt, one using its influence with Israel and the other with Hamas. And it states Morsi and the Egyptians are providing a service Washington cannot in dealing with the problem of Gaza.
It continues, Unlike former President Hosni Mubarak, Israeli leaders are praising the response from Cairo not withstanding Egypts public protests of solidarity with Hamas and continues to show that they are looking to the government of Mohamed Morsi and the Egyptian government to not merely control the Palestinian population in Gaza, but to set the stage for what will even become what is called a three-state solution - and Im quoting.
Israels goal now is not to destroy Hamas, but compel it to behave responsibly and to keep the order in Gaza.
If things are normalized in Gaza, Hamas effectively becomes a second Palestinian mini-statelet. And this, National security advisor to former Israeli prime minister Arial Sharon urged that Israel agree to undertake to stabilize the separate statelet.
And it goes on... A three-State solution may emerge. What were talking about is not just the continued bantustanization (apartheid separation) of the Palestinian population, but the enlistment of the Egyptian regime and its intelligence services because, again quote, Morsi has used his intelligence chief Mohamed Shahata to spearhead separate talks.
The Israeli government spokesman Mark Regev told CNN that the deal announced Wednesday offers a future where we will have stability and quiet in the south and that is good for Israelis.
So, we have to see the dynamics of this truce because what it enlists here is the regime of Mohamed Morsi at the disposal of the United States and at the behest of Obama to establish a circumstance in which the Palestinian population of Gaza will be kept under control and the terms set forth for arranging for the bantustanization of Gaza and the West Bank in a two-state and three-state puppet regime.
Thats the agenda that they are setting forth here...
Press TV: Mr. Roland spoke of Egypts role here. How effective do you see Egypts role in this scenario and how much hope is there that Egypt will stand by the Palestinians in the foreseeable future?
Schoenman: Zero. The role of Mohamed Morsi and the Egyptian government is an instrument of the United States imperial policy in the region.
Robert Danin on the Council of Foreign Relations (CFR) said, quote, This by-product of a truce is consistent entirely with Israels aim to compel Hamas to take responsibility for developments in Gaza. Israels goal is not now to destroy Hamas, but to compel it to behave responsibly and keep the order in Gaza.
And then it goes on, If things are normalized in Gaza with Hamas in charge, effectively Hamas becomes a second Palestinian mini-statelet. It goes on to describe Mohamed Morsi and his intelligence services, which enlist effectively the same apparatus of enforcement, in military intelligence terms in Egypt, that existed under Mubarak.
The role of Mohamed Morsi and these types of country-selling regimes and I dont hesitate to describe this as the characteristics of the government of Mohamed Morsi in Cairo, is to facilitate the objectives of imperialism and of the Zionists to not just marginalize, but to remove the Palestinian population from the political agenda of self-determination and to effectively destabilize the leaderships of the Palestinian people and enlist them in the project of the Israelis and the United States itself.
Of course... the resistance of the Palestinian people, which is arousing the masses of the people of the region as The New York Times referenced with concern both with respect to the Hashemite kingdom in Jordan and the Mahmoud Abbas Palestinian Authority - you can add to that the Saudi regime and that of the Emirates as well, they are looking for a way to maintain control to continue the blockade of the Palestinian people in Gaza and to enlist the Egyptians in coordinating with the United States and Israel in furthering the objectives of imperialism. Thats the agenda here.
Press TV: What do you think of Irans role in this whole scenario?
Schoenman: Well, I think effectively Iran is in the situation of being menaced by both the Israeli [entity] of course and by American imperialism itself. Iran has sought to support the aspirations of the Palestinian people not only in Gaza, but in the West Bank and within the green line as well.
Effectively, what were looking at here is concern on the part of the United States and of Israel to maintain its control and to advance its agenda with regard to the destabilization of Iran and Syria without the consequence of a generalized uprising in the region.
What began in Egypt is unfinished. The little beginnings of the struggles against Zionist and imperial control of the Egyptian nation has unfolded. The government of Mohamed Morsi is a holding action and imperialism is maintained in its structure and control.
As regards Iran... Iran is faced with threats from imperialism to attempt to overthrow the government and to destabilize the Iranian society as they have attempted to do in Syria as they are attempting to do throughout the region.
The agenda of imperialism and Zionism have not altered in the slightest. The question of the military response of the Palestinians in Gaza here, it is not just a question of a few rockets because the effective military consequences of those rockets is, quite honestly, marginal.
But it is the spirit of resistance in the conflict that demonstrates the nature of imperialism in the suffering of the Palestinian people; it arouses the masses the people of the region and calls into full light the role of the regimes such as the Kingdom of Jordan or for that matter Morsi himself.
I dont see the role of Morsi as anything more than an as instrument for furthering the agenda of the United States and of Israel in this situation. Thats not to say that he will be successful in these efforts because he has to answer to the Egyptian people as well as to the Palestinian people and the people of the region at large.
But thats what theyre attempting to accomplish here and thats role that he has assigned to himself.
Iran is still menaced. Iran is no less threatened. Iran is not off the agenda of an attack as The New York Times was complaining about the responses to the brutal onslaught against the Palestinian people in Gaza as The New York Times was stating, It deflects our ability to target Iran, it deflects our ability to target Syria. Those are the items of the agenda that remain at the forefront of imperial intent. That hasnt changed.
Press TV: In a final word from you, should Gazans prepare for the worst to come do you think?
Schoenman: The Gazans will not find themselves less subjected to the blockade that is imposed upon them. Its out of the (Nazi) playbook of the Warsaw (Jewish) ghetto.
You have a population that... you know, the Zionists actually calculated - the government of Israel calculated the minimum calories that they could permit the Palestinian population to consume without mass starvation. Just to keep them on the edge of starvation - its a fine calculation.
Thats what this blockade is about to impose the most draconian conditions of bare survival upon the population in Gaza. That is not altered; that is not going to be minimized.
The consequence of this is that the government of Egypt has been enlisted.
You asked a moment ago about the role of the Arab League. The issue before us is the nature of the governments that comprise the membership of the Arab League - Saudi Arabia, Qatar - these are country-selling regimes.
In Egypt for example as weve often discussed with its 80 million population, you have most of the population living at a bare subsistence level, less than two dollars a day. The mass of the Fallahine all have members of a family that have sold their kidneys for coin.
That immiseration in the midst of enormous wealth concentrated upon the oligarchy in Egypt and the military and its servants and the apparatus of control has not altered in the slightest. The Morsi government has not changed those class relations.
The issue before us is the starvation and immiseration of a mass of the population; the handing over of resources to the control of imperialism; the subordination of the peoples of these countries to the objectives of imperialism and Zionism.
Who among the Arab League have called for a break in the blockade against Iran? Who has taken steps to break that blockade themselves amongst these regimes? These regimes in the Arab League dont service the aspirations of the people, they are enforcers of the imperial agenda and they preside over the exploitation of their own people.
That struggle that is unfolded in Egypt and to the aspirations of the Palestinian people speak to the peoples of the region as well.
PressTV - Morsi role, destabilizing Palestine leadership: Analyst
An analyst says the Gaza truce makes Egypt responsible for ensuring Hamas is controlled and this favors the imperialistic Zionist agenda with no real benefit for Gazans.
After several days of an Israeli military offensive that failed to achieve its objectives against surprising strength in Palestinian resistance, Israel announced a ceasefire earlier in the week and an Egyptian-brokered truce has been agreed to by all parties.
Press TV has interviewed Mr. Ralph Schoenman, political commentator and author of the Hidden History of Zionism from Berkeley, who puts forward his views about the consequences of this Israel Palestine truce that was brokered by Egypt. Also a guest in this interview is Mr. Allen Roland, online columnist also from California. The following is an approximate transcription of the interview.
Press TV: How do you see this truce in its entirety?
Schoenman: Well, I think we have to look at the underlying politics here. The New York Times spelled this out when it stated that the crisis threatens to complicate and divert attention from our international attempts to deal with the threat of Iran and the Syrian civil war while marginalizing moderate Palestinians due to the reaction of Palestinians in the West Bank.
It also stated that the war in Gaza destabilizes two regimes: the Hashemite monarchy in Jordan and the Palestine authority led by Mahmoud Abbas in the Israeli occupied West Bank.
Given the response of the Palestinian population in the West Bank in denouncing the role of Mahmoud Abbas, Washington fears the continuation of the Gaza attack could spark greater unrest directed not only at Israel, but at the impotent corrupt regime of the Palestinian Authority as well. Those are the underlying dynamics here.
But I would like to emphasize that the Daily Telegraph and Time Magazine have spelled out the role of Egypt and of Mohammed Morsi in this truce. Quote, "When the moment of truth came... the conservative Daily Telegraph in London writes, ... the Egyptian leadership moved responsibly in clearly attempting to restore stability in conjunction with the United States".
Not only that... says analyst Michael Wahid Hanna of the Century Foundation, Egypt's government has put its international credibility on the line by effectively undertaking to ensure that Hamas is controlled and observes the terms of its ceasefire. This is a profoundly important change.
And it goes on, This is an essential partnership in clamping down Palestinian violence. - Former US ambassador to Israel Martin Hindick. Between the United States and Egypt, one using its influence with Israel and the other with Hamas. And it states Morsi and the Egyptians are providing a service Washington cannot in dealing with the problem of Gaza.
It continues, Unlike former President Hosni Mubarak, Israeli leaders are praising the response from Cairo not withstanding Egypts public protests of solidarity with Hamas and continues to show that they are looking to the government of Mohamed Morsi and the Egyptian government to not merely control the Palestinian population in Gaza, but to set the stage for what will even become what is called a three-state solution - and Im quoting.
Israels goal now is not to destroy Hamas, but compel it to behave responsibly and to keep the order in Gaza.
If things are normalized in Gaza, Hamas effectively becomes a second Palestinian mini-statelet. And this, National security advisor to former Israeli prime minister Arial Sharon urged that Israel agree to undertake to stabilize the separate statelet.
And it goes on... A three-State solution may emerge. What were talking about is not just the continued bantustanization (apartheid separation) of the Palestinian population, but the enlistment of the Egyptian regime and its intelligence services because, again quote, Morsi has used his intelligence chief Mohamed Shahata to spearhead separate talks.
The Israeli government spokesman Mark Regev told CNN that the deal announced Wednesday offers a future where we will have stability and quiet in the south and that is good for Israelis.
So, we have to see the dynamics of this truce because what it enlists here is the regime of Mohamed Morsi at the disposal of the United States and at the behest of Obama to establish a circumstance in which the Palestinian population of Gaza will be kept under control and the terms set forth for arranging for the bantustanization of Gaza and the West Bank in a two-state and three-state puppet regime.
Thats the agenda that they are setting forth here...
Press TV: Mr. Roland spoke of Egypts role here. How effective do you see Egypts role in this scenario and how much hope is there that Egypt will stand by the Palestinians in the foreseeable future?
Schoenman: Zero. The role of Mohamed Morsi and the Egyptian government is an instrument of the United States imperial policy in the region.
Robert Danin on the Council of Foreign Relations (CFR) said, quote, This by-product of a truce is consistent entirely with Israels aim to compel Hamas to take responsibility for developments in Gaza. Israels goal is not now to destroy Hamas, but to compel it to behave responsibly and keep the order in Gaza.
And then it goes on, If things are normalized in Gaza with Hamas in charge, effectively Hamas becomes a second Palestinian mini-statelet. It goes on to describe Mohamed Morsi and his intelligence services, which enlist effectively the same apparatus of enforcement, in military intelligence terms in Egypt, that existed under Mubarak.
The role of Mohamed Morsi and these types of country-selling regimes and I dont hesitate to describe this as the characteristics of the government of Mohamed Morsi in Cairo, is to facilitate the objectives of imperialism and of the Zionists to not just marginalize, but to remove the Palestinian population from the political agenda of self-determination and to effectively destabilize the leaderships of the Palestinian people and enlist them in the project of the Israelis and the United States itself.
Of course... the resistance of the Palestinian people, which is arousing the masses of the people of the region as The New York Times referenced with concern both with respect to the Hashemite kingdom in Jordan and the Mahmoud Abbas Palestinian Authority - you can add to that the Saudi regime and that of the Emirates as well, they are looking for a way to maintain control to continue the blockade of the Palestinian people in Gaza and to enlist the Egyptians in coordinating with the United States and Israel in furthering the objectives of imperialism. Thats the agenda here.
Press TV: What do you think of Irans role in this whole scenario?
Schoenman: Well, I think effectively Iran is in the situation of being menaced by both the Israeli [entity] of course and by American imperialism itself. Iran has sought to support the aspirations of the Palestinian people not only in Gaza, but in the West Bank and within the green line as well.
Effectively, what were looking at here is concern on the part of the United States and of Israel to maintain its control and to advance its agenda with regard to the destabilization of Iran and Syria without the consequence of a generalized uprising in the region.
What began in Egypt is unfinished. The little beginnings of the struggles against Zionist and imperial control of the Egyptian nation has unfolded. The government of Mohamed Morsi is a holding action and imperialism is maintained in its structure and control.
As regards Iran... Iran is faced with threats from imperialism to attempt to overthrow the government and to destabilize the Iranian society as they have attempted to do in Syria as they are attempting to do throughout the region.
The agenda of imperialism and Zionism have not altered in the slightest. The question of the military response of the Palestinians in Gaza here, it is not just a question of a few rockets because the effective military consequences of those rockets is, quite honestly, marginal.
But it is the spirit of resistance in the conflict that demonstrates the nature of imperialism in the suffering of the Palestinian people; it arouses the masses the people of the region and calls into full light the role of the regimes such as the Kingdom of Jordan or for that matter Morsi himself.
I dont see the role of Morsi as anything more than an as instrument for furthering the agenda of the United States and of Israel in this situation. Thats not to say that he will be successful in these efforts because he has to answer to the Egyptian people as well as to the Palestinian people and the people of the region at large.
But thats what theyre attempting to accomplish here and thats role that he has assigned to himself.
Iran is still menaced. Iran is no less threatened. Iran is not off the agenda of an attack as The New York Times was complaining about the responses to the brutal onslaught against the Palestinian people in Gaza as The New York Times was stating, It deflects our ability to target Iran, it deflects our ability to target Syria. Those are the items of the agenda that remain at the forefront of imperial intent. That hasnt changed.
Press TV: In a final word from you, should Gazans prepare for the worst to come do you think?
Schoenman: The Gazans will not find themselves less subjected to the blockade that is imposed upon them. Its out of the (Nazi) playbook of the Warsaw (Jewish) ghetto.
You have a population that... you know, the Zionists actually calculated - the government of Israel calculated the minimum calories that they could permit the Palestinian population to consume without mass starvation. Just to keep them on the edge of starvation - its a fine calculation.
Thats what this blockade is about to impose the most draconian conditions of bare survival upon the population in Gaza. That is not altered; that is not going to be minimized.
The consequence of this is that the government of Egypt has been enlisted.
You asked a moment ago about the role of the Arab League. The issue before us is the nature of the governments that comprise the membership of the Arab League - Saudi Arabia, Qatar - these are country-selling regimes.
In Egypt for example as weve often discussed with its 80 million population, you have most of the population living at a bare subsistence level, less than two dollars a day. The mass of the Fallahine all have members of a family that have sold their kidneys for coin.
That immiseration in the midst of enormous wealth concentrated upon the oligarchy in Egypt and the military and its servants and the apparatus of control has not altered in the slightest. The Morsi government has not changed those class relations.
The issue before us is the starvation and immiseration of a mass of the population; the handing over of resources to the control of imperialism; the subordination of the peoples of these countries to the objectives of imperialism and Zionism.
Who among the Arab League have called for a break in the blockade against Iran? Who has taken steps to break that blockade themselves amongst these regimes? These regimes in the Arab League dont service the aspirations of the people, they are enforcers of the imperial agenda and they preside over the exploitation of their own people.
That struggle that is unfolded in Egypt and to the aspirations of the Palestinian people speak to the peoples of the region as well.
PressTV - Morsi role, destabilizing Palestine leadership: Analyst
