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''Modi Ji'' Rafale Will Not Save Your Soul

Is it PL21? As Pl15 is already integrated with JF17s and I think we already have 100 in our inventory bought immediately after 27th Feb.

It could only be PL21 as PL15 is also Mach4 at sometime and is not comparable to Meteor as it is based on rocket motor rather than Ram Jet engine of PL21 and Meteor
dual pulse rocket motor to be more correct
Somewhat comparable

PL15 is definitely powered by a ramjet. No rocket motor can provide such a long range (200+ km) to any A2A of this size. Or it will be too big and too heavy that only a heavy fighter like SU35 may be able to carry one.
Sorry sir you are talking about another missile PL 15 uses dual pulse rocket motor.
 
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Pl-15 will be officially introduced with the block 3 , but as the radar on block 2 will be replaced by AESA , than even block 2's will be carrying them around . Pl-15 strength don't come from it's range but it's menuverability and evasion of counter measures . Rafale will have tough time against the fully equipped JF block 3 .
 
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I guess Block 3 will get
2 additional harpoints
HUD like that of eurofighter tyohoon
HMD like that of J-20
Can fire,
SD-10
PL-15
PL-10
PL-5

Engine
Ws-13 (as modren variant as possible)
Radar
AESA radar.
 
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There was an Indian member on idf who said that pl-15 is too heavy for jf-17. Is it true or not.thanks for your comment above.this could be a deadly combination.
Something are better kept secret let them be in their dreamland...again they will be surprised more effectively now but they know the result and wont make any blunder again as done in past...It is confirmed about of integration of pl-15 but wont be revealed until time comes let Rafale arrive and see thing happening...
 
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I mentioned sometime back that india's overhyped Rafales will be DOA (dead on arrival) as by the time they become operational, PAF would have much better capability neutralizing any advantage they might have on paper as of today. I also mentioned while people focus on smoke trail, speed, hard points and paint schemes, PAF is making these humble looking Thunders in to lethal killing machines.


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''If we had Rafales, results would have been different'', cried Indian PM Modi after humiliation
at the hands of Pakistan Air Force on the eventful day of 27th February.
Whatever may be other capabilities of the French aircraft, the Indian claim was directed towards the Meteor Missile that equips the Rafale. This is said to be directly in response to PAF's AMRAAM BVR capability due to which the IAF suffered the losses and had nothing to match the striking distance of the American weapon. Rafale jets are due to start arriving in India by years end and it will take sometime before they become fully operational. Well, PAF is not sitting idly by. Just yesterday, have learned from a well placed source that PAF is in process of inducting an extremely long range BVR system that travels at over Mach-6 compared to Mach-4 Meteor. Further the PAF will have these weapons in it's inventory and operational before the IAF, thus squarely checkmating the Indian acquirement.

It only becomes shitty when it rams up IAF's arse



PL 15 is a shitty missile with no use against fighter jets.
 
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''If we had Rafales, results would have been different'', cried Indian PM Modi after humiliation
at the hands of Pakistan Air Force on the eventful day of 27th February.
Whatever may be other capabilities of the French aircraft, the Indian claim was directed towards the Meteor Missile that equips the Rafale. This is said to be directly in response to PAF's AMRAAM BVR capability due to which the IAF suffered the losses and had nothing to match the striking distance of the American weapon. Rafale jets are due to start arriving in India by years end and it will take sometime before they become fully operational. Well, PAF is not sitting idly by. Just yesterday, have learned from a well placed source that PAF is in process of inducting an extremely long range BVR system that travels at over Mach-6 compared to Mach-4 Meteor. Further the PAF will have these weapons in it's inventory and operational before the IAF, thus squarely checkmating the Indian acquirement.
Russian bvr missiles are inferior to the US ones, then how come chinese will be better than french or other Western missiles.?
 
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Russian bvr missiles are inferior to the US ones, then how come chinese will be better than french or other Western missiles.?
 
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Pakistan's biggest weapon is incompetency of IAF

InshaAllah with this weapon we would always give them a bloody nose
Im still conscious to know what they hell their planner were thinking when they were trying to hit us balakot... Since 5 years we have AMRAAMs and why they ignored the threat of theee missiles??? They do know PAF have better BVRs then any they which they have in their arsenal... Ghass charny gai the kia unki akal???
 
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guy's do you have any information on pl-10, pl-15, pl-8 and pl-12 range and speeds??
 
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''If we had Rafales, results would have been different'', cried Indian PM Modi after humiliation
at the hands of Pakistan Air Force on the eventful day of 27th February.
Whatever may be other capabilities of the French aircraft, the Indian claim was directed towards the Meteor Missile that equips the Rafale. This is said to be directly in response to PAF's AMRAAM BVR capability due to which the IAF suffered the losses and had nothing to match the striking distance of the American weapon. Rafale jets are due to start arriving in India by years end and it will take sometime before they become fully operational. Well, PAF is not sitting idly by. Just yesterday, have learned from a well placed source that PAF is in process of inducting an extremely long range BVR system that travels at over Mach-6 compared to Mach-4 Meteor. Further the PAF will have these weapons in it's inventory and operational before the IAF, thus squarely checkmating the Indian acquirement.

Jammer Bhiyya zina ho :azn: ... ???

khair what we have or what we plan to have or what kind of statements owr politicians & military generals make get funds & clearneces for latest weapons ... i mean why should overseas pakistanies like you who are living in scotland should even bother :haha:

but eeven leaving that aside tell me

1. do we have only Mig21s or just a few Rafale's on order

2. or does only a few rafales going to change the story or narrative of fight betwenn IAF & PAF

3. waht do you think of Upgraded Mig29s & Upgraded Mirage 2000's and Upgraded Sepecat Jaguars or Su30 MKI

4. do we not have R77 , MICA ER , MICA IR , DERBY < I DERBY ER- or DERBY-M /Python-6 & ASTRA BVR

5. isnt IAF also getting Meteor BVR with Rafle and now MBDA cleared Meteor for LCA MK1A also

6. what makes you think we wont buy the latest gen israeli ultra long range BVR that is still classified ?

as for rafale all this hue and cry was about rafale deal was made by congress so Grippen gets the deal and not Rafale but it did got and so that congress some how gets back in 2019 but BJP came back now sit tight and weight foir sept 2019 anouncements there is lot of bad news coming for PAF ;) :D
 
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Jammer Bhiyya zina ho :azn: ... ???

khair what we have or what we plan to have or what kind of statements owr politicians & military generals make get funds & clearneces for latest weapons ... i mean why should overseas pakistanies like you who are living in scotland should even bother :haha:

but eeven leaving that aside tell me

1. do we have only Mig21s or just a few Rafale's on order

2. or does only a few rafales going to change the story or narrative of fight betwenn IAF & PAF

3. waht do you think of Upgraded Mig29s & Upgraded Mirage 2000's and Upgraded Sepecat Jaguars or Su30 MKI

4. do we not have R77 , MICA ER , MICA IR , DERBY < I DERBY ER- or DERBY-M /Python-6 & ASTRA BVR

5. isnt IAF also getting Meteor BVR with Rafle and now MBDA cleared Meteor for LCA MK1A also

6. what makes you think we wont buy the latest gen israeli ultra long range BVR that is still classified ?

as for rafale all this hue and cry was about rafale deal was made by congress so Grippen gets the deal and not Rafale but it did got and so that congress some how gets back in 2019 but BJP came back now sit tight and weight foir sept 2019 anouncements there is lot of bad news coming for PAF ;) :D

Sou Sunhar ki.....eik lohar ki.

Indians are like saying to America....''Pita ji, Pakistan ney iss key saath humara balatkar kiya'' !!
:lol:


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