MODI cleared Ishrat Murder

[Agnostic_Indian]

1. Sorry! The concept of Rule of Law was made for a kinder, gentler world where only the state had a monopoly on violence - not for times when non state actors are in possession of huge finances and deadly arms and the margin of error for security forces does not exist.

2. Why are you getting into the minds of Muslims and speaking on their behalf? Why should a muslim think that all of them are presumed to be terrorists? We all have numerous Muslim colleagues - do we presume they have terroristic tendencies.

3. Your ignorance of laws is stark. A person apprehended on an IB tipoff cannot be charged with waging war against the country unless he is caught in the act or is carrying illegal arms/ bombs etc. The police will have a very weak case and such fellows will get bail pronto. And if you are so hung up on laws then tell me why laws with teeth - POTA / TADA, are always opposed by wooly headed persons like you?

1) sorry it is not so, rule of law for every kind and for every situation, majority of the police and force abide by the law.we have laws for peace time as well as emergency period, the system is designed with an option go on national security mode if necessary to protect the nation, it's on the authorities to assess the situation an invoke relevant laws according to the situation, any self imposed parallel justice system must not be tolerated.

2) i am not speaking on behalf of Muslims but giving you a picture of possible out come of extra judicial killings. I did not say the Muslims presume that police or others suspect all of them are terrorists but some of them are or in other words almost all the terrorists are Muslims, they think they are the usual suspects based on recent history, only a cave man will not come to know about the general sentiments of Muslims that they are suspected and targeted because of their religion , a Muslim youth is more prone to suspicion and arrest than a Hindu or Christians under same circumstances.. that's the truth.There will be conspiracy theories on every Muslim youths arrest or suspicious death, custodial killings will only strengthen this belief and only judicial verdict can assure the public that arrested people are indeed guilty. a police officer who has many Muslim friends will not suspect them, but under same suspicious conditions/circumstances he will suspect a un known Muslim youth more than he suspects Christian or Hindu youth, same is the case with many others they all have Muslim friends so they they give them an exception because they know that they are not such people but out in public with strangers, any suspicious activity will be keenly observed, this suspicion triggered by his activity will only grow more if he is dressed in Islamic manner(this is perception regardless of the fact that terrorists can/ will choose to dress accordingly to avoid suspicion. ).so having Muslim friends who you know personally is one thing and behaviour/attitude/ perception towards un known Muslims public is different thing.so religion is one of the things which contributes to the suspicion, not in absence of other factors , but only when it is mated with other factors, activities with generates suspicion.
3) Yes you are right a suspicious person on IB tip can't be and should not be charged with wagging war against country unless you have supporting evidence, intelligence info are just a 50/50 case, they are just warnings/ informations up on which police should act and investigate further to know the truth, based on intelligence alone no body, not even police can be sure about the suspects culpability to an extend to kill them all in cold blood.

To be charged with a terrorism plot doesn't require to be arrested with a gun or bomb, other material evidences such as un deniale links and contacts with terror groups, banking details, call, contact, details, revelations, confession from other terrorists, eye witness, etc many things can fill up the requirements, they will not even get bail, you are simply undermining the capability of our police and justice system in order support some irresponsible and corrupt police action.
Prevention of Terrorism Act, 2002 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Omtatsat]

Of course he will. He is adept at converting his personal criminality into political issues. And he is supported by unprincipled rogues who see no wrong in that.

Here comes the incorrigible Bong know all!

 

[Joe Shearer]

Modi is neither accused nor charged. Its same old 'Black dhadi and white dhadi' and court doesn't believe in such evidences.
PS: Ishrat Jahan case will make modi hero than anything.

Quite right, it does not matter.

What matters is that a prima facie case of homicide should be tried and convicted perpetrators of the crime should be punished. It is not correct to use this case to glorify Modi or to vilify him.

 

[Omtatsat]

1) sorry it is not so, rule of law for every kind and for every situation, majority of the police and force abide by the law.we have laws for peace time as well as emergency period, the system is designed with an option go on national security mode if necessary to protect the nation, it's on the authorities to assess the situation an invoke relevant laws according to the situation, any self imposed parallel justice system must not be tolerated.

2) i am not speaking on behalf of Muslims but giving you a picture of possible out come of extra judicial killings. I did not say the Muslims presume that police or others suspect all of them are terrorists but some of them are or in other words almost all the terrorists are Muslims, they think they are the usual suspects based on recent history, only a cave man will not come to know about the general sentiments of Muslims that they are suspected and targeted because of their religion , a Muslim youth is more prone to suspicion and arrest than a Hindu or Christians under same circumstances.. that's the truth.There will be conspiracy theories on every Muslim youths arrest or suspicious death, custodial killings will only strengthen this belief and only judicial verdict can assure the public that arrested people are indeed guilty. a police officer who has many Muslim friends will not suspect them, but under same suspicious conditions/circumstances he will suspect a un known Muslim youth more than he suspects Christian or Hindu youth, same is the case with many others they all have Muslim friends so they they give them an exception because they know that they are not such people but out in public with strangers, any suspicious activity will be keenly observed, this suspicion triggered by his activity will only grow more if he is dressed in Islamic manner(this is perception regardless of the fact that terrorists can/ will choose to dress accordingly to avoid suspicion. ).so having Muslim friends who you know personally is one thing and behaviour/attitude/ perception towards un known Muslims public is different thing.so religion is one of the things which contributes to the suspicion, not in absence of other factors , but only when it is mated with other factors, activities with generates suspicion.
3) Yes you are right a suspicious person on IB tip can't be and should not be charged with wagging war against country unless you have supporting evidence, intelligence info are just a 50/50 case, they are just warnings/ informations up on which police should act and investigate further to know the truth, based on intelligence alone no body, not even police can be sure about the suspects culpability to an extend to kill them all in cold blood.

To be charged with a terrorism plot doesn't require to be arrested with a gun or bomb, other material evidences such as un deniale links and contacts with terror groups, banking details, call, contact, details, revelations, confession from other terrorists, eye witness, etc many things can fill up the requirements, they will not even get bail, you are simply undermining the capability of our police and justice system in order support some irresponsible and corrupt police action.
Prevention_of_Terrorist_Activities_Act]Prevention of Terrorism Act, 2002[/B] - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why cant you Pakistanis post under your own flag.... You have given away your cover... The fact that POTA has already been repealed is known to every Indian.

 

[Marxist]

Of course he will. He is adept at converting his personal criminality into political issues. And he is supported by unprincipled rogues who see no wrong in that.



Finally a CM who openly rejects the rule of law.

still No proof to prove "personal criminality" so its a political issue ....And supporting or rejecting is my personal issue you have no authority to question it or term every one of us as rouges

 

[Joe Shearer]

I don't Think Congress or CBI will have guts to Frame Charges against MODI....................

Frame charges on what grounds? There are no grounds.

 

[Agnostic_Indian]

Why cant you Pakistanis post under your own flag.... You have given away your cover... The fact that POTA has already been repealed is known to every Indian.

ok, first time in pdf I am being called a " PAKISTANI"..
last line of defence when you don't have any sensible counter argument.

Why cant you Pakistanis post under your own flag.... You have given away your cover... The fact that POTA has already been repealed is known to every Indian.

ok, first time in pdf I am being called a " PAKISTANI"..
last line of defence when you don't have any sensible counter argument.

UPA only chanced POTA on 2004 to bring new or amended law.


http://www.bannedthought.net/India/PeoplesMarch/PM1999-2006/archives/2005/jan2k5/pota.htm

 

[Omtatsat]

2 False flag posters - Guynextdoor and atheistindian already down... at this rate the incorrigible Bong know all .. Joe Shearer will soon be left with no friends...

 

[Joe Shearer]

Here comes the incorrigible Bong know all!

You may stand up now.

 

[Omtatsat]

ok, first time in pdf I am being called a " PAKISTANI"..
last line of defence when you don't have any sensible counter argument.

You only get caught once.. POTA was a dead give away...come on now...don't feel bad...there are so many IDs for taking.

 

[Joe Shearer]

..... you have been reduced to trolling.

Hmm. Pot calling the kettle grimy?

 

[Marxist]

2 False flag posters - Guynextdoor and atheistindian already down... at this rate the incorrigible Bong know all .. Joe Shearer will soon be left with no friends...

they are not ,They have a different political opinion

 

[Guynextdoor2]

ok, first time in pdf I am being called a " PAKISTANI"..
last line of defence when you don't have any sensible counter argument.

These idiots think that 'real Indians' will support their views, suupport BJP etc. and yet their party always keeps losing elections, no one wants them in power etc.

2 False flag posters - Guynextdoor and atheistindian already down... at this rate the incorrigible Bong know all .. Joe Shearer will soon be left with no friends...

Yeah...I'll still keep defaming Modi maggot. Do what you want.

 

[t_for_talli]

Most of Shia - Ahmedi, bohra will vote for BJP while sunni will vote for Communal parties/...

Can you explain how you came to this conclusion??

I feel BJP will do better from last election in UP, Jharkhand if it can successfully play the Modi's caste card
Specially in UP BJP is looked upon as a party favoring upper caste and SP and BSP capitalize on this
But this time their PM candidate Modi is from EBC(extremely backward caste)

 

[Omtatsat]

they are not ,They have a different political opinion

Im sure...when asked for anti terrorism laws...which India will quote provisions of POTA today?

These idiots think that 'real Indians' will support their views, suupport BJP etc. and yet their party always keeps losing elections, no one wants them in power etc.



Yeah...I'll still keep defaming Modi maggot. Do what you want.

do not feed the false flag Pakistani trolls....