Modi blew it big time on China policies

[desiHindu]

It's China which is fast loosing India.
With the huge trade deficit China enjoys with us, it should be vary of a real backlash from India.

All this chest thumping of India not having any options but to buy from China could result in a scenario that would be hard for China to swallow.

 

[noksss]

Chalay they Pakistan ko Isolate Karnay; India infect isolating herself through this absolute hate & rigidness towards us.

The problem with Pakistanis is they think that CPEC will make them superpower and India is isolating herself through this absolute hate & rigidness by not attending OBOR

 

[NirmalKrish]

India will come running to join OBOR soon, they are not principled people.

Fact 1 - No it won't
Fact 2 - india does not give a damn
Fact 3 - India's call's China's bluff
Fact 4 - We don't care!

You're free to feel otherwise!

 

[cocomo]

All this chest thumping of India not having any options but to buy from China could result in a scenario that would be hard for China to swallow.

How? Does India have alternatives to Chinese goods? No. That cheap stuff you buy from China gives money to Indian retailers and traders. So its you who are chest thumping.

Only we have sovereignty issue about OBOR. Why should we stop others from reaping the benefits of OBOR?

I can't imagine India being happy that all its neighbors are involved in BRI.

 

[Chhatrapati]

I can't imagine India being happy that all its neighbors are involved in BRI.

Yeah, better infra for the countries which will eventually benefits India when in comes to trade. So far it is not clear and when the question is asked, what are the benefits of India joining it? The Chinese or Pakistani's in the forum are mum.
But yet they claim it will be a total loss for India.

 

[noksss]

Looking at the words usage below it looks like the author should be a commie/Modi hater and he seems to be more frustrated than china themselves

Modi government to “get lost”.
complete nonsense of Modi government’s China policies

The Modi government lends money to Vietnam to buy patrol boats to stand up to China - Amazing knowledge of the author at display here when he ignores the Navy/Air force training , ONGC oil reserves and many more such cooperation

 

[Areesh]

like you banned Indian movies and then allowed right ?????

Indian movies. Only monkey as$ achievement bharatis keep bragging about.

 

[Crixus]

I do agree 90% of them are monkey's a$$ by man still all monkey a$$ movies do good business in Pakistan

Indian movies. Only monkey as$ achievement bharatis keep bragging about.

 

[war&peace]

Pakistan and China should stop using diplomatic language and treat Murdoodi as a tea boy should be.

 

[Sully3]

All in all, Modi government’s China policies are turning out to be very short-sighted and based on vanities and prejudices carried forward from another era that are hopelessly unsustainable today. It was possible to have rationally analysed that the Belt and Road Forum in Beijing will turn out to be a seminal event in global politics. But Modi decided to boycott it. The sad part is the sophistry in the Indian argument. The plain truth is that in the emerging scenario in J&K, India should be more than satisfied with a solution to the Kashmir problem without having to redraw territorial boundaries and which would somehow legitimise the Line of Control as the international border.
Indira Gandhi knew this home truth; Rajiv Gandhi knew it; Narasimha Rao knew it; AB Vajpayee most certainly knew it. But Modi somehow doesn’t get it. The Modi government dreams up that all of Greater Kashmir stretching up to Wakhan Corridor belongs to India. A foreign policy based on such poppycock does not serve the country’s interests. The Modi government lends money to Vietnam to buy patrol boats to stand up to China, while President Tran Dai Quang attends the OBOR event in Beijing and is feted by President Xi.The international community will only regard our leaders as a frivolous lot with a provincial mind. Read a candid essay, here, by Prem Shankar Jha on what OBOR could have been and should have been for India’s development agenda.

wow the last paragraph is damning as it gets.

guess thats whats expected when a chai wala is the PM of a country ruling the masses with hinduatva policies.
This is the same guy who was denied a VISA to the US for 12 consecutive years on terrorism related grounds.

 

[neem456]

And who are you and what is your concern about pakistan?... I.e you are here on PDF

We are the Descendants of the Indus Civilization... looking down at you.

In all seriousness, India's mess is India's own concern. I personally, couldn't care less... unfortunately the reverse isn't true...

looking down ?

Last i heard, pcb was begging to play with india, even in india
Pakistani patients are lining up indian consulate for indian visa for that they can get treated in indian hospitals, india denied it.
Pakitani artists are willing to do anything to work in bollywood, india denied it.

Well, its clear who is lookig down upon whom. Just typing non sense without any proof proves nothing.

 

[Clutch]

looking down ?

Last i heard, pcb was begging to play with india, even in india
Pakistani patients are lining up indian consulate for indian visa for that they can get treated in indian hospitals, india denied it.
Pakitani artists are willing to do anything to work in bollywood, india denied it.

Well, its clear who is lookig down upon whom. Just typing non sense without any proof proves nothing.

Everything you quoted... symptoms of the "Small Heart Disease"

Ps... BTW... I meant by looking down as far as geographically

 

[tw00tw00]

http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2017/05/13/modi-blew-it-big-time-on-china-policies/

Modi blew it big time on China policies
According to Pakistani press, one highlight of the participation by PM Nawaz Sharif at the Belt and Road Forum in Beijing (May 14-15) will be the signing of a Memorandum of Understanding between the two countries opening the door to massive Chinese investment – to the tune of $50 billion – for the development of the North Indus River Cascade in Pakistan’s Gilgit-Baltistan region. This will be Chinese investment over and above the $46 billion China-Pakistan Economic Corridor.
A whopping 40000 MW of electricity can be produced in the region known as the North Indus River Cascade, which stretches from Skardu in Gilgit-Baltistan and runs through Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa as far as Tarbela. The stunning development catapults Pakistan as by far the number one recipient of Chinese investment in infrastructure development. The geopolitical significance is at once obvious.
Beijing, which went the extra league in the recent months to convince India that the latter’s concerns over sovereignty relating to the CPEC are unwarranted, has apparently given up and decided to simply ignore Delhi’s protestations and proceed with the CPEC projects in a big way in Gilgit-Baltistan. It is a political and diplomatic snub by China, conveying a frank message to the Modi government to “get lost”.
The Modi government is now left with an option to carry on regardless along the path of confrontation and rivalry with China, or, alternatively, to see the writing on the wall and get adjusted to the fait accompli with a sense of stoicism and sense of modesty. The latter course is not easy since the “core constituency” of the BJP will mutiny and the RSS will rap on the government’s knuckles. However, China seems to estimate that it is in India’s DNA that sooner rather than later, it will feel the intensity of regional (and global) isolation – especially now that all of India’s neighbours, including Nepal, have joined the OBOR – and make atonement.
Meanwhile, the announcement in Washington on Thursday that President Donald Trump has nominated his special assistant and the point person on Asia in the National Security Council Matt Pottinger to represent him at the weekend event in Beijing must come as shock to the Indian foreign-policy elites. The US-China détente that is unfolding under Trump’s stewardship makes complete nonsense of Modi government’s China policies that are tied to the apron strings of the Obama administration’s pivot strategy in Asia. The US and China made a joint announcement on Thursday regarding the first tranche of policy decisions on trade issues envisaged under the so-called Initial Actions of the U.S.-China Economic Cooperation 100-Day Planthat was agreed upon by Trump and President Xi Jinping at their Mar-a-Lago meeting in Florida in April.
The White House feels delighted that the relationships Trump has built with President Xi Jinping and other Chinese leaders “are clearly paying dividends.” The announcement covers areas such as agricultural trade, financial services and energy to boost economic cooperation. Amongst other things, China will receive imports of beef and LNG from the US, while the latter agrees to apply the same bank prudential supervisory and regulatory standards to Chinese banking institutions as to other foreign banking institutions.
The US Commerce Department announced on Thursday that Washington “recognizes the importance” of China-proposed Belt and Road Initiative and is therefore deputing a delegation to attend the forum in Beijing. It cannot be lost on the Trump administration that OBOR is shaping up as a new vector of globalization and the US will be the loser if it stays out of the new supply chain. Ning Jizhe, China’s vice-minister of the National Development and Reform Commission said in Beijing on Saturday, “Chinese outbound investment is forecast to total $600 billion to $800 billion over the next five years, a fairly large proportion of which will go into markets related to the Belt and Road Initiative.” This compares with the $60 billion China has so far invested in OBOR projects.
All in all, Modi government’s China policies are turning out to be very short-sighted and based on vanities and prejudices carried forward from another era that are hopelessly unsustainable today. It was possible to have rationally analysed that the Belt and Road Forum in Beijing will turn out to be a seminal event in global politics. But Modi decided to boycott it. The sad part is the sophistry in the Indian argument. The plain truth is that in the emerging scenario in J&K, India should be more than satisfied with a solution to the Kashmir problem without having to redraw territorial boundaries and which would somehow legitimise the Line of Control as the international border.
Indira Gandhi knew this home truth; Rajiv Gandhi knew it; Narasimha Rao knew it; AB Vajpayee most certainly knew it. But Modi somehow doesn’t get it. The Modi government dreams up that all of Greater Kashmir stretching up to Wakhan Corridor belongs to India. A foreign policy based on such poppycock does not serve the country’s interests. The Modi government lends money to Vietnam to buy patrol boats to stand up to China, while President Tran Dai Quang attends the OBOR event in Beijing and is feted by President Xi.The international community will only regard our leaders as a frivolous lot with a provincial mind. Read a candid essay, here, by Prem Shankar Jha on what OBOR could have been and should have been for India’s development agenda.


Russia, Belt and Road and the ‘Big Picture’
Russia has not been a significant beneficiary so far of the Chinese honeypot known as Belt and Road Initiative – although there is vast untapped potential to attract Chinese investments into Russia’s infrastructure and industry. Yet, no sooner than the invitations went out for the BRI Forum summit in Beijing (May 14-15), word came that President Vladimir Putin looked forward to attending the event.
Russia has similar concerns as India regarding BRI. Putin said at a roundtable in Beijing earlier today, “It is important that all integration structures — both existing in Eurasia and newly formed — would rely on universal internationally recognized rules, and, of course, take into account the specific features of the national models of development of the participating states, act openly and transparently.”
PM Modi could have said much the same thing in Beijing yesterday. However, the bottom line is that Russia has total clarity as regards the historic significance of the BRI and here Putin was unequivocal:

• All proposed projects correspond to modern development trends, and all these things are extremely necessary and highly demanded. That is why Russia supports ‘One Belt, One Road’ project and will actively participate in its implementation together with Chinese partners and, of course, with all other interested states.

Putin said that the creation of the economic development belt and organization of mutually beneficial trade between Asia and Europe seem to be an important initiative that takes into account the current trends in the world economy and also reflects the overall need for coordination of diverse integration processes on the Eurasian continent and in other regions of the world.
A major thrust of the BRI will be to connect China – Xinjiang, in particular – with the rest of Eurasia. And China’s New Silk Road originating from Xinjiang will run through regions that in modern history constituted Russia’s “sphere of influence” – especially, Central Asia. Curiously, a Voice of America report in the weekend mentioned that China has proposed an extension of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor to Afghanistan and Central Asia, involving the construction of an expressway linking Peshawar to Kabul which will run northward from there to Kunduz on the Amu Darya near the Uzbek and Tajik border “and then deeper into Central Asia.”
The pundits in Moscow understand that the BRI is a geopolitical project. To quote Viktor Larin, Director of the Institute of History at the Russian Academy of Sciences, “I think that the One Belt, One Road initiative is a geopolitical project in the first place and only then an economic one.” Larin puts President Xi Jinping’s vision as a continuation of Deng Xiaoping’s policy of “openness” and Jiang Zemin’s motto “to go outside.” To quote Larin, “As China grows, it needs more markets, more raw materials. This is one and the same idea, which today received a new, rather successful form — the One Belt, One Road initiative.”
Larin analyses that the core of Beijing’s geopolitical doctrine reflected in the BRI is a “peaceful international environment” that can be created through economic collaboration. In this respect, the Russian and Chinese foreign policies overlap. By the way, Russia ranks first in the list of countries that the government-owned China Daily compiled last week as the “most friendly” toward BRI. (Sputnik)
Quintessentially, Russia does not suffer from India’s spirit of keen sense of envy or rivalry toward China, and, secondly, Russia is not weighed down by the backlog of the US’ pivot strategy in Asia. Again, the sustained western attempts to create discord between Russia and China have not worked. The alchemy of the Sino-Russian alliance comes out clearly in the reports on Xi’s meeting with Putin yesterday.
Xi used an extraordinary idiom for the first time at a meeting with Putin when he said yesterday that China and Russia “have played the role of ‘ballast stone’ in safeguarding regional and global peace and stability.” Now, ballast stone signifies heavy material used to make a ship steady – an anchor sheet. Xi’s usage of the forceful expression is hugely significant in the contemporary setting of the international order characterised by high volatility. (Xinhua)
In sum, the Russian considerations are to attract investments under the BRI, inject fresh dynamism into the Eurasian Economic Union by integrating it with the BRI and to make up for the deficiencies of the SCO’s economic agenda that has failed to gain traction so far. It doesn’t mean Russia is walking into a debt trap. Nor does it mean that China can dictate BRI projects to Russia or dump its excess industrial capacity on Russia. But it is a pragmatic approach which becomes possible because Putin keeps the ‘big picture’ in view.
Russia has taken in its stride the US’ U-turn to depute a delegation led by a senior White House official to attend the event in Beijing. It could anticipate the inevitability of Donald Trump concluding at some point early enough that his ‘America First’ plan and the high-powered engine for stimulating global economic growth that the BRI is would be a match made in heaven. And, most important, Russia had no doubt the China will enthusiastically welcome such a development. Read a Chinese commentary on the ‘knock-on effects’ of US’ volte-face on BRI — Belt and Road can complement America First.

 

[Salik]

India has no role in this phase. In next phase Ramaiya Vastavaiya.