What's new

Mitsubishi announces AAV that is 3 times faster than used by US Marines

Kurlang

FULL MEMBER
Joined
Dec 29, 2014
Messages
528
Reaction score
1
Country
Pakistan
Location
Pakistan
aav-2.jpg

TOKYO (Reuters) - In January, a top U.S. Marine general visited Mitsubishi Heavy Industries in Japan to look at a prototype of an amphibious assault vehicle that could one day be a key pillar in Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's push to sell weapons abroad.

Using engines adapted from the main battle tank the company makes for Japan's military and new water jet propulsion technology, the full-size prototype is undergoing pool tests, although it is in the early stages of development and production could be years off.

Nevertheless, the maker of the wartime Zero fighter plane is eyeing overseas sales after Abe lifted a decades-old ban on arms exports in April last year as part of his more muscular security agenda, two Japanese defense industry sources said.

Mitsubishi designers believe the prototype shown to U.S. Marine Corps Pacific commander Lieutenant General John Toolan will be more maneuverable and faster across the water than the 40-year-old AAV7 amphibious assault vehicle used to carry U.S. marines onto beaches from naval ships anchored offshore, the sources said.

The AAV7 is built by the U.S. unit of Britain's BAE Systems.

The prototype's engines in particular could be fitted onto other armored vehicles, the sources added.

"It's an opportunity for Mitsubishi Heavy to tap overseas markets for its engine technology," said one of the sources, who declined to be identified because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

Mitsubishi Heavy wants to build an amphibious armored vehicle that can move through water at 20 to 25 knots (37 to 46 km per hour) compared to the more than 7 knots (13 km per hour) reached by the AAV7, said the sources.

rtr3wdv9.jpg
REUTERS/Erik De CastroA U.S. military's Amphibious Assault Vehicle (AAV) manoeuvres in the choppy waters facing the South China Sea during the Cooperation Afloat Readiness and Training (CARAT) Philippines 2014, a U.S.-Philippines military exercise, at San Antonio, Zambales north of Manila June 30, 2014.



"If the Japanese can get 20 knots in the water without compromising maneuverability on land, we will be very interested," said one Marine Corps official who saw the prototype in January but declined to be identified.

"Whether that's possible remains to be seen."

A Mitsubishi Heavy spokesman said the prototype had been shown to the Japanese Ministry of Defense, but declined to give details about the vehicle. At a Paris arms show last June, a suitcase-sized model of an eight-wheeled armored troop carrier was the centerpiece display at the company's exhibition booth.

The Ministry of Defense was aware of Mitsubishi Heavy's research into amphibious vehicles but was not involved in the project, a ministry spokesman said.

Manny Pacheco, a spokesman for U.S. Marine Corps procurement, declined to comment on the prototype.

But he said the Marine Corps was "always interested in the technological advances of industry" and encouraged manufacturers to use "every opportunity to showcase their wares and get their products submitted through our competitive procurement process".

rtx19l8j.jpg
REUTERS/Erik De CastroU.S. military forces aboard Amphibious Assault Vehicles (AAV) manuevre on the shore of San Antonio, Zambales during the annual "Balikatan" (shoulder-to-shoulder) war games with Filipino soldiers in northern Philippines April 21, 2015.

Tough technology
Amphibious vehicles are central to marine units around the world, allowing forces to operate on land and sea. But there has been little significant technological advancement in such vehicles in recent decades.

A tracked Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle that was being developed for the U.S. Marine Corps by U.S. weapons maker General Dynamics Corp was canceled in 2011 after big cost increases and technical issues.

The Marine Corps last year kicked off a competition for a new wheeled amphibious combat vehicle (ACV) that could operate on shorelines and shallow water.

Pacheco said the Marine Corps was reviewing proposals from five manufacturers to build a prototype. He did not identify the companies.

A feasibility study by BAE and General Dynamics had recommended against using current technology to build a vehicle in line with Marine Corps requirements, a U.S.-based BAE spokeswoman told Reuters.

"The study concluded that although the technology existed, it would not be fielded at an affordable price," she said.

BAE was talking to Mitsubishi Heavy about being a potential partner on the body design of the new Japanese vehicle, the BAE spokeswoman added.

General Dynamics was in similar talks with Mitsubishi Heavy, said sources in Japan. General Dynamics said it did "not have any information to provide at this time".

us_navy_081128-n-9134v-067_an_amphibious_assault_vehicle_assigned_to_the_26th_marine_expeditionary_unit_maneuvers_towards_the_amphibious_dock_landing_ship_uss_carter_hall_%28lsd_50%29.jpg
Wikimedia CommonsAn amphibious assault vehicle assigned to the 26th Marine Expeditionary unit maneuvers towards the amphibious dock landing ship USS Carter Hall

Need for speed
Mitsubishi Heavy has been making armored vehicles for Japan's military for around 80 years, beginning with the Imperial forces in the 1930s. It also builds fighter aircraft, naval vessels, submarines and missiles.

The company also makes high-speed marine engines and water jet propulsion systems, according to its website.

"Japan's technology is good enough that we have to look at it," said a U.S. military industrial source familiar with the amphibious vehicle plans.

Although a coastal nation, post-war Japan only formed an amphibious military unit in 2012. The 3,000-strong unit will be equipped with more than 50 AAV7s.

It was disappointment at the speed of those vehicles over water that spurred Japan to build a new one, Japanese defense officials told Reuters.

Japan's military is also concerned about the ability of the caterpillar-tracked vehicles to ride over coral reefs, a common feature in the East China Sea, where Tokyo is embroiled in a territorial dispute with China.

The BAE spokeswoman acknowledged the desire of the U.S. Marine Corps to increase water speed, adding there should be "no operational concern" with coral reefs.

Source: Mitsubishi amphibious assault vehicle US Marines - Business Insider
 

Nixon- " "Ambassadors who go to India fall in love with India. Some have the same experience in Pakistan, though not as many because the Pakistanis are a different breed. The Pakistanis are straightforward and sometimes extremely stupid. The Indians are more devious, sometimes so smart that we fall for their line."

And his words remain true even today (at least this part).


Thanks for Info.
 
im sure if MOD asks Japnese they wont mind selling these AAVs to us :)
a JV or some help in technology, that is what we need. never brought that IFV. many indian companies are capable of manufacturing IFV in india, what we need is that kind of engine technology, and some help in designing..


Nixon impresses me more and more. ;)
Nixon liked Yahya, hated Indira Gandhi: documents - Newspaper - DAWN.COM
One document quotes him as saying: “Pakistanis are straightforward and sometimes extremely stupid. The Indians are more devious, sometimes so smart that we fall for their line.”

In a White House conversation with Mr Kissinger on June 4, 1971, President Nixon berates his ambassador to India, Kenneth Keating, for wanting to, as Mr Kissinger puts it, “help India push the Pakistanis out”.

President Nixon says: “I don’t want him to come in with that kind of jackass thing with me. Keating, like every ambassador who goes over there, goes over there and gets sucked in.”:haha::partay:

Mr Kissinger then says: “Those sons-of-bitches, who never have lifted a finger for us, why should we get involved in the morass of East Pakistan?:rofl:

nixon was the most foolish and stupid US president. he don't even listen to his own people and was fall in love with General Yahya Khan..
 
Last edited:
At least we are getting what we need and Where are you ??? Lol tejas bana kr baat krna china ki :rofl::rofl::rofl:

what you get? that toy plane JF-117??:lol: a garbage which even Chinese don't like.
BTW, Tajes is under introduction into the airforce.
 
what you get? that toy plane JF-117??:lol: a garbage which even Chinese don't like.
BTW, Tajes is under introduction into the airforce.
my humble advice to you on this forum never ever say anythings that humiliates chinese,there products or get into coversation specially regarding LCA Vs JF17 then you will have a great time :cheers:
 
aav-2.jpg

TOKYO (Reuters) - In January, a top U.S. Marine general visited Mitsubishi Heavy Industries in Japan to look at a prototype of an amphibious assault vehicle that could one day be a key pillar in Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's push to sell weapons abroad.

Using engines adapted from the main battle tank the company makes for Japan's military and new water jet propulsion technology, the full-size prototype is undergoing pool tests, although it is in the early stages of development and production could be years off.

Nevertheless, the maker of the wartime Zero fighter plane is eyeing overseas sales after Abe lifted a decades-old ban on arms exports in April last year as part of his more muscular security agenda, two Japanese defense industry sources said.

Mitsubishi designers believe the prototype shown to U.S. Marine Corps Pacific commander Lieutenant General John Toolan will be more maneuverable and faster across the water than the 40-year-old AAV7 amphibious assault vehicle used to carry U.S. marines onto beaches from naval ships anchored offshore, the sources said.

The AAV7 is built by the U.S. unit of Britain's BAE Systems.

The prototype's engines in particular could be fitted onto other armored vehicles, the sources added.

"It's an opportunity for Mitsubishi Heavy to tap overseas markets for its engine technology," said one of the sources, who declined to be identified because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

Mitsubishi Heavy wants to build an amphibious armored vehicle that can move through water at 20 to 25 knots (37 to 46 km per hour) compared to the more than 7 knots (13 km per hour) reached by the AAV7, said the sources.

rtr3wdv9.jpg
REUTERS/Erik De CastroA U.S. military's Amphibious Assault Vehicle (AAV) manoeuvres in the choppy waters facing the South China Sea during the Cooperation Afloat Readiness and Training (CARAT) Philippines 2014, a U.S.-Philippines military exercise, at San Antonio, Zambales north of Manila June 30, 2014.



"If the Japanese can get 20 knots in the water without compromising maneuverability on land, we will be very interested," said one Marine Corps official who saw the prototype in January but declined to be identified.

"Whether that's possible remains to be seen."

A Mitsubishi Heavy spokesman said the prototype had been shown to the Japanese Ministry of Defense, but declined to give details about the vehicle. At a Paris arms show last June, a suitcase-sized model of an eight-wheeled armored troop carrier was the centerpiece display at the company's exhibition booth.

The Ministry of Defense was aware of Mitsubishi Heavy's research into amphibious vehicles but was not involved in the project, a ministry spokesman said.

Manny Pacheco, a spokesman for U.S. Marine Corps procurement, declined to comment on the prototype.

But he said the Marine Corps was "always interested in the technological advances of industry" and encouraged manufacturers to use "every opportunity to showcase their wares and get their products submitted through our competitive procurement process".

rtx19l8j.jpg
REUTERS/Erik De CastroU.S. military forces aboard Amphibious Assault Vehicles (AAV) manuevre on the shore of San Antonio, Zambales during the annual "Balikatan" (shoulder-to-shoulder) war games with Filipino soldiers in northern Philippines April 21, 2015.

Tough technology
Amphibious vehicles are central to marine units around the world, allowing forces to operate on land and sea. But there has been little significant technological advancement in such vehicles in recent decades.

A tracked Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle that was being developed for the U.S. Marine Corps by U.S. weapons maker General Dynamics Corp was canceled in 2011 after big cost increases and technical issues.

The Marine Corps last year kicked off a competition for a new wheeled amphibious combat vehicle (ACV) that could operate on shorelines and shallow water.

Pacheco said the Marine Corps was reviewing proposals from five manufacturers to build a prototype. He did not identify the companies.

A feasibility study by BAE and General Dynamics had recommended against using current technology to build a vehicle in line with Marine Corps requirements, a U.S.-based BAE spokeswoman told Reuters.

"The study concluded that although the technology existed, it would not be fielded at an affordable price," she said.

BAE was talking to Mitsubishi Heavy about being a potential partner on the body design of the new Japanese vehicle, the BAE spokeswoman added.

General Dynamics was in similar talks with Mitsubishi Heavy, said sources in Japan. General Dynamics said it did "not have any information to provide at this time".

us_navy_081128-n-9134v-067_an_amphibious_assault_vehicle_assigned_to_the_26th_marine_expeditionary_unit_maneuvers_towards_the_amphibious_dock_landing_ship_uss_carter_hall_%28lsd_50%29.jpg
Wikimedia CommonsAn amphibious assault vehicle assigned to the 26th Marine Expeditionary unit maneuvers towards the amphibious dock landing ship USS Carter Hall

Need for speed
Mitsubishi Heavy has been making armored vehicles for Japan's military for around 80 years, beginning with the Imperial forces in the 1930s. It also builds fighter aircraft, naval vessels, submarines and missiles.

The company also makes high-speed marine engines and water jet propulsion systems, according to its website.

"Japan's technology is good enough that we have to look at it," said a U.S. military industrial source familiar with the amphibious vehicle plans.

Although a coastal nation, post-war Japan only formed an amphibious military unit in 2012. The 3,000-strong unit will be equipped with more than 50 AAV7s.

It was disappointment at the speed of those vehicles over water that spurred Japan to build a new one, Japanese defense officials told Reuters.

Japan's military is also concerned about the ability of the caterpillar-tracked vehicles to ride over coral reefs, a common feature in the East China Sea, where Tokyo is embroiled in a territorial dispute with China.

The BAE spokeswoman acknowledged the desire of the U.S. Marine Corps to increase water speed, adding there should be "no operational concern" with coral reefs.

Source: Mitsubishi amphibious assault vehicle US Marines - Business Insider

Japan is a sleeping giant in this area @Nihonjin1051
 
Back
Top Bottom