Miss Pakistan USA on a mission to change image of Pakistani women

[Zibago]

For those who think no beauty contests take place here
There can only be one queen - The Express Tribune

 

[Nilgiri]

@Azad-Kashmiri

 

[SQ8]

For those who think no beauty contests take place here
There can only be one queen - The Express Tribune

While I am not fond of those brash programmes one sees on the Private TV channels with the uncouth reporter going into every nook and cranny in an attempt to get some expose' . I remember one episode seen per chance when these people ended up at a brothel and most of the clients were ones that would be coming to you regarding your beard or shalwar.

 

[war&peace]

So caliph were heavenly fellows???
This is what you believe???



I have read enough, want to check how much you know because its you who is making big claims not me. And I want to check.



I have to learn ''how to debate''.............??? I am still using decent language and asking you questions to prove your ''so many Tafseer'' knowledge........... so I don't qualify as good debater?



What is Zarvan doing here? He also pin you down frequently? Why are you dragging unrelated person in debate?




So now you want to drag un necessary but sensitive discussion here. From which ''so many Tafseer'' you studied about them??

Bro....I argued with him too but he is a brainwashed moron without any knowledge and a bad mouth so lets ignore the troll. He has no say at all.

 

[Tipu7]

Have to love the number of commentators who otherwise have no clue about their own sisters or immediate cousins but have the time to comment on everyone else's. Essentially, all of them are the proverbial gheebat brigade...
Whatever the woman does in her mind is her business and is for Allah to Judge, unless we Muslims think that we are now equal to Allah in passing judgements....

in your opinion

can a person who is not ever involved in any evil or moral less activity with female, or have always respected women despite of their beliefs and appearance, point out such actions (via female) which are dangerous for that women as well as for her family and nation in long terms? In a humble way with logic? Not to relieve his inner fire of hatred but to save soceity from bad impact which he believe is harm full for that person too but as She is too inexperience or incompitanat to see what is good or bad for her self.....................???

Can we leave any ''bad boy'' with Hope ''Allah or us ka mamla he'' and ''Allah khud saza de ga hum kon hote hain tang urane wale''.................???

 

[rockstar08]

So caliph were heavenly fellows???
This is what you believe???

are they not ? LOL
Don't you believe that those were 4 rightly guided heavenly fellow ? than you are kaffir

I have read enough, want to check how much you know because its you who is making big claims not me. And I want to check.

again self proclaim champions of Islam .. i feel pity for people like you

I have to learn ''how to debate''.............??? I am still using decent language and asking you questions to prove your ''so many Tafseer'' knowledge........... so I don't qualify as good debater?

again Stupid reply .. cause i mentioned Question and instead of spreading your unlimited knowledge of Islam on us , you try to pose questions against my questions which is stupid in Debate logic ..

What is Zarvan doing here? He also pin you down frequently? Why are you dragging unrelated person in debate?

LOL Zarvan pin me down hahahaha keep believing in that loser
and i say that you are acting like Zarvan , blabbering without any source or prove .. posing questions against Questions .. and other rants ..i am not interested in debating with chawals

So now you want to drag un necessary but sensitive discussion here. From which ''so many Tafseer'' you studied about them??

LOL that is unrelated stuff ? ok Mr Intellect i rest my case here

please dont forget to take your pills tonight

and don't Quote unless you have something constructive towards a healthy debate .. cause i am not interested in debating with Stupid people on PDF ..

 

[Tipu7]

Bro....I argued with him too but he is a brainwashed moron without any knowledge and a bad mouth so lets ignore the troll. He has no say at all.

I saw this in very first moment. Just wanted to scratch him a bit to show him his own real color...............
Both religious and secular extremism have ruined our society. I hate to stay silent while my struggles are wasting away.............. Bad thing must be stopped, but not with force always................

 

[SQ8]

She is too inexperience or incompitanat to see what is good or bad for her self.....................???

Can we leave any ''bad boy'' with Hope ''Allah or us ka mamla he'' and ''Allah khud saza de ga hum kon hote hain tang urane wale''.................???

And how do we know you are experienced or competent? Allah is not there to verify your competence to me. The head of the council of Islamic ideology is a drunkard and I am supposed to think him competent?
You are NOBODY to interfere in her life because you yourself have no value as an authority to judge.

 

[Tipu7]

And how do we know you are experienced or competent? Allah is not there to verify your competence to me. The head of the council of Islamic ideology is a drunkard and I am supposed to think him competent?
You are NOBODY to interfere in her life because you yourself have no value as an authority to judge.

I never mentioned my self in my comment. How you jumped to conclusion that I am such holy spirit...........?
Also If head of Islamic Council is drunken thug, then what it have to do with your personal responsibility of dealing with evil? If head of state is ''bad guy'', will it justify you to be bad like him?
Why one person is ''NO BODY'' to interfere any body life..........? Why people save other people from doing suicides? Its their choice they are making................ Life comes with responsibility how you deal with your self as well as with others. If your neighbor is sleeping with empty stomach then its your responsibility. If he is involved in activities which are ruining the peace of your society then its your responsibility to tell him that how he is doing wrong and how he can do some thing else, some thing better...................

 

[Zibago]

While I am not fond of those brash programmes one sees on the Private TV channels with the uncouth reporter going into every nook and cranny in an attempt to get some expose' . I remember one episode seen per chance when these people ended up at a brothel and most of the clients were ones that would be coming to you regarding your beard or shalwar.

I thought i was the only one who noticed skull caped you know whats at chinese massage centres

 

[v9s]

unless we Muslims think that we are now equal to Allah in passing judgements....

The "muslims" in Pakistan today already consider the alleged sayings of the Prophet as superior. The words of the local imam and mullah have become gospel truth. What you've said already happened 1000 years ago.

 

[Zibago]

 

[Indus Falcon]

Shut up yar,what the hell is this approach to represent Pakistani women into positive light?If you want to represent a Pakistani woman in positive light then work hard,become a top class surgeon,scientist,doctor or business woman.Make some breakthrough discoveries or come up with new philosophy of life.
Why west shows off victims like Malala,but didn't say anything about Pakistani women working at PAF or any other institutions?When women like Dr.Afia was gang raped and tortured,where was humanity?
Why,to become modern..a woman has to put off her cloths?Why?what kind of definition of modernism is this?

The fact is simple:we have different definition of modernism and you have different.For you,modernism means materialism and vulgarity and for us,the definition of modernism is to become a better human and having high knowledge and living a well disciplined life.

Thanks,but no thanks

#Respect

Very well said.

 

[waleed3601]

Why,to become modern..a woman has to put off her cloths?Why?what kind of definition of modernism is this?

as far as I can see she is fully clothed in all of the pictures.
i bet no one who liked your comment actually read the article;just saw a post that defended their chauvinistic and backward thinking and blindly clicked like.
what? the girl was showing her arms? oh how dare she fill our society with vulgarity? how dare she make people like you have dirty thoughts? throw her in the pits!
lol. no wonder our country isnt a safe place for women when educated and seemingly 'respected' people (albeit only in the online world) think like you.

 

[SQ8]

I never mentioned my self in my comment. How you jumped to conclusion that I am such holy spirit...........?
Also If head of Islamic Council is drunken thug, then what it have to do with your personal responsibility of dealing with evil? If head of state is ''bad guy'', will it justify you to be bad like him?
Why one person is ''NO BODY'' to interfere any body life..........? Why people save other people from doing suicides? Its their choice they are making................ Life comes with responsibility how you deal with your self as well as with others. If your neighbor is sleeping with empty stomach then its your responsibility. If he is involved in activities which are ruining the peace of your society then its your responsibility to tell him that how he is doing wrong and how he can do some thing else, some thing better...................

Ive already done my bit, the forum admin is much more aware of it. And then lets talk about life, responsibilities and Islam. What justification do you have from Islam that says that you in your current intellectual capacity have the right to go ahead and critique a woman not of your family, not of your society and not of your country, and who obviously has ZERO motivation as a Muslim to do whatever she is doing?

Not to mention how is a woman's decision to partake in a beauty contest in a foriegn land somehow comparable to a suicide case.

I would love to see the copy paste Ayat's and translations that come for that here.

The fact is simple:we have different definition of modernism and you have different.For you,modernism means materialism and vulgarity and for us,the definition of modernism is to become a better human and having high knowledge and living a well disciplined life.

Thanks,but no thanks

That being said, there is nothing that stops her. She is in the US, she can do whatever she wants