"Miscreants" try to burn alive Muslim family that converted to Hinduism

[masterchief_mirza]

Why don't you answer my question man, when central asians invaded, who fell first?

A. Pakistan
B. India

Afghanis came from the west so they took over Pakistani lands first. Does this count as a victory for hindustan? Pakistanis gladly sided with afghans to put gangetics to the sword and loot your temples.

Please update me when Hindustan wins during this particular timeline, because I'm struggling to find this victory.

 

[IndiaIsBad]

Afghanis came from the west so they took over Pakistani lands first. Does this count as a victory for hindustan? Pakistanis gladly sided with afghans to put gangetics to the sword and loot your temples.

Please update me when Hindustan wins during this particular timeline, because I'm struggling to find this victory.

So you are saying that pakistanis willingly surrendered their sovereignty to afghans and accepted afghans as their masters?

 

[masterchief_mirza]

So you are saying that pakistanis willingly surrendered their sovereignty to afghans and accepted afghans as their masters?

I said Pakistanis sided with Afghanis against Indians. Revenge against brahminists was long overdue. An opportunity presented itself and we seized it. What would you have preferred? Submission to Brahmin rule throughout the subcontinent? Thankfully, plenty of Muslims, local AND foreign resisted that.

You should be aware that Mughals were in power when Durrani arrived. Both the Mughals and the Durranis recruited armies from local Pakistani Muslim populations. Ultimately, whether it was mughals or durrani armies, Pakistanis were heavily involved in ransacking India.

Now that we've refreshed ourselves on relevant history? Why does this bother you?

 

[IndiaIsBad]

I said Pakistanis sided with Afghanis against Indians. Revenge against brahminists was long overdue. An opportunity presented itself and we seized it. What would you have preferred? Submission to Brahmin rule throughout the subcontinent? Thankfully, plenty of Muslims, local AND foreign resisted that.

You should be aware that Mughals were in power when Durrani arrived. Both the Mughals and the Durranis recruited armies from local Pakistani Muslim populations. Ultimately, whether it was mughals or durrani armies, Pakistanis were heavily involved in ransacking India.

Now that we've refreshed ourselves on relevant history? Why does this bother you?

There was no siding. According to the map posted by yourself, Durrani was the master of pakistan.

The only question is whether he won it in a battle or pakistanis surrendered.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

This myth that "nobody from Pakistan ever warred against India" is one of the most ridiculous things that springs forth from the mouths of uneducated bhakts.

Countless local Pakistanis (whether it's the balochis and pashtuns of western regions directly commanding Afghan units or punjabis and sindhis who joined either Mughal or Afghan raiding parties) had a right old jolly in Indian lands. This is a part of history. Nothing to get obsessed over.

 

[IndiaIsBad]

This myth that "nobody from Pakistan ever warred against India" is one of the most ridiculous things that springs forth from the mouths of uneducated bhakts.

Countless local Pakistanis (whether it's the balochis and pashtuns of western regions directly commanding Afghan units or punjabis and sindhis who joined either Mughal or Afghan raiding parties) had a right old jolly in Indian lands. This is a part of history. Nothing to get obsessed over.

How did durrani win pakistan?

Did he defeat them in battle and sacked pakistan or did the Pakistanis surrender?

 

[masterchief_mirza]

There was no siding. According to the map posted by yourself, Durrani was the master of pakistan.

The only question is whether he won it in a battle or pakistanis surrendered.

Okay, let's focus on Durrani since you obviously have nightmares about him.

Firstly, he was not certain to have been born in coterminous Afghanistan. Many contend he was born in Multan, Pakistan.

However, notwithstanding that, let us explore further regarding his motivations in Pakistani lands...

 

[IndiaIsBad]

Okay, let's focus on Durrani since you obviously have nightmares about him.

Firstly, he was not certain to have been born in coterminous Afghanistan. Many contend he was born in Multan, Pakistan.

However, notwithstanding that, let us explore further regarding his motivations in Pakistani lands...

He was born in herat and why are you avoiding a simple question dude? If its a difficult topic for you don't reply. There is no need to cry.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

He was born in herat and why are you avoiding a simple question dude? If its a difficult topic for you don't reply. There is no need to cry.

Born	c. 1722 Herat, Hotak Empire (present-dayAfghanistan)[2][3][4][5] or Multan, Mughal Empire (present-dayPakistan)[6][7][8][9][10]

Debatable whether multan or herat. But anyway, let's disregard that for now - for argument's sake let's assume he's born in Herat .

He allied with numerous balochi and pashtun tribes when jihad against the Maratha empire was declared, also siding with local Muslims (Afghan expats near Delhi) in India proper.

The third battle of panipat, so glorified in recent Bollywood history, was a straightforward unification of Afghan, Pakistani and Indian Muslims and even Indian dharmics (Jats, Rajputs) against the Maratha invaders from the Deccan.

As an aside - the third battle of panipat has been entirely presented fraudulently by Maratha fanboys. Bollywood would have us believe it was some heroic Hindu "liberation" of Delhi, when the harsh truth was that Maratha deccan raiders were no different and no less "foreign" to Delhi than Abdali's Afghanis. Delhi was a Mughal fiefdom equidistant from Maratha and afghani heartlands. Both marathas and Afghanis simply wanted to vassalise the Mughal remnants and Delhi was no different. To portray Maratha designs on Delhi as some "Hindu liberation" is utter desperation to rewrite subcontinental history and ignore the reality that the mughals owned it AND the marathas were foreigners from the Deccan. Anyway, I digress.

Notable commanders who served under Ahmad Shah Abdali specifically and were from coterminous Pakistan: Mir Muhammad Nasir Khan I, Zabardast Khan Tanoli (who was his principal army chief).

As for his prior campaigns in Pakistani lands, he mainly fought against established mughal fiefdoms there. Once he defeated them, he extracted wealth and military men from their ranks to use in later expeditions against the marathas. Hindus were nowhere to be seen in this particular theatre.