MILITARY MUSCLE: British F-35Bs Will Soon Fly Middle East Combat Missions From HMS Queen Elizabeth (ROYAL NAVY IS BACK)

[White and Green with M/S]

Yet they cannot save their own people from covid which is killing their people.

Why you bring COVID to this topic if you lose an argument with anyone than you start irrelevant post for face-saving

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Why you bring COVID to this topic if you lose an argument with anyone than you start irrelevant post for face-saving

And Type 45 is no match for Type 055. So what's your point? The only ship that can go toe to toe with Type 055 is Arleigh Burke Flight III which is delayed by covid.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

And Type 45 is no match for Type 055. So what's your point? The only ship that can go toe to toe with Type 055 is Arleigh Burke Flight III which is delayed by covid.

Lol UK is building destroyers since decades ànd you're just started to build destroyers from scratch since late 90s go live on your fairytales ànd fantasy world that TYPE- 55 IS BETTER THAN TYPE 45

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Lol UK is building destroyers since decades ànd you're just started to build destroyers from scratch since late 90s go live on your fairytales ànd fantasy world that TYPE- 55 IS BETTER THAN TYPE 45

Chinese navy operated domestically built destroyers since early 70s

Type 051 destroyer - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Chinese navy operated domestically built destroyers since early 70s

Type 051 destroyer - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Based on Russian designs first you have to read your source

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Based on Russian designs first you have to read your source

Type 051 is not based on Russian design. In 1960s China and Russia were enemies. China and Russia did not restore relation until 1991 when USSR dissolved.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Luda class is not based on Russian design. In 1960s China and Russia were enemies. China and Russia did not restore relation until 1991 when USSR dissolved.

First read your article you posted

FROM your article

The PLAN began designing a warship armed with guided missiles in 1960 based on the Soviet Neustrashimy, with features from the Kotlin-class destroyer, but the Sino-Soviet split stopped work.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

First read your article you posted

FROM your article

The PLAN began designing a warship armed with guided missiles in 1960 based on the Soviet Neustrashimy, with features from the Kotlin-class destroyer, but the Sino-Soviet split stopped work.

It clearly says because China and Russia became enemies in 1960s Type 051 is not based on Russian destroyer.

The PLAN began designing a warship armed with guided missiles in 1960 based on the Soviet Neustrashimy, with features from the Kotlin-class destroyer, but the Sino-Soviet split stopped work.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

It clearly says because China and Russia became enemies in 1960s Type 051 is not based on Russian destroyer.

The PLAN began designing a warship armed with guided missiles in 1960 based on the Soviet Neustrashimy, with features from the Kotlin-class destroyer, but the Sino-Soviet split stopped work.

Soviets providing lots of technical document to you for their various military hardware before the split, Stop worked means they were not providing further assistance to but built Type 51 destroyers based on those document and information that provided by Soviet to you, hence Type 51 destroyers indirectly based upon these 2 Soviet naval vessels

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Soviets providing lots of technical document to you for their various military hardware before the split, Stop worked means they were not providing further assistance to but built Type 51 destroyers based on those document and information that provided by Soviet to you, hence Type 51 destroyers indirectly based upon these 2 Soviet naval vessels

Type 051 of the 60s / 70s is first Chinese developed destroyer. It may or may not incorporate some Russian design cues, but it is largely Chinese domestic design.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Type 051 of the 60s / 70s is first Chinese developed destroyer. It may or may not incorporate some Russian design cues, but it is largely Chinese domestic design.

No it was mostly based on 2 Soviet design, look Dude you don't thinking neutrally, In 60s China had no to minimal NAVAL ship design and development experience, so its more secure for China to have their upcoming design based on tested and mature Soviet design which had less chance to fail and if you design from scratch in 60s it had more chance to fail, think logically dude not blindly

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

No it was mostly based on 2 Soviet design, look Dude you don't thinking neutrally, In 60s China had no to minimal NAVAL ship design and development experience, so its more secure for China to have their upcoming design based on tested and mature Soviet design which had less chance to fail and if you design from scratch in 60s it had more chance to fail, think logically dude not blindly

If anything Type 051 is based on Anshan class which is Gnevny class. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anshan-class_destroyer

Sort of like how Type 002 is based on Kuznetsov class. Both Type 051 and Type 002 are considered Chinese warships based on Russian design, but are considered Chinese ships, not Russian ships.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

If anything Type 051 is based on Anshan class which is Gnevny class. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anshan-class_destroyer

Sort of like how Type 002 is based on Kuznetsov class. Both Type 051 and Type 002 are considered Chinese warships based on Russian design, but are considered Chinese ships, not Russian ships.

So that i am Talking about, where am i said that your design is Russian design?? your Type -51 design is definitely Chinese design but INSPIRED OR BASED UPON KOLTIN and other Soviet/Russian design

 

[mazeto]

Iran should sink the British aircraft carrier on an excuse. Under full sanctions there is not much they can do economically. Politically Russia and China will safeguard it. Militarily there is nothing the British can do. US under Biden won't go for war if can make it appear an unintentional confrontation.
Similarly, China should sink any Australian naval ship coming to lord over the SCS " accidentally " . The Geostrategic gain after the initial hullabaloo will be enormous for both countries. Most countries of the world will be cheering silently.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

So that i am Talking about, where am i said that your design is Russian design?? your Type -51 design is definitely Chinese design but INSPIRED OR BASED UPON KOLTIN and other Soviet/Russian design

You say Chinese had no domestic destroyer until late 90s is incorrect. Type 051 is first Chinese domestic destroyer, since early 70s. Type 002 is first Chinese domestic carrier, since late 2010s. Sure, they took design cues from Russians but they are considered Chinese domestic ships. This is what you said. I quote what you said below.

Lol UK is building destroyers since decades ànd you're just started to build destroyers from scratch since late 90s go live on your fairytales ànd fantasy world that TYPE- 55 IS BETTER THAN TYPE 45