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Migrants in hunger strike at France-Italy border

-Libyans revolted against Gaddafi.
-They wanted us to intervene.
-We intervened,Gaddafi was overthrown.
-Then started fighting each other and putting the chaos everywhere,can't be civilised.

Yet it's our fault. lel.
Hi,

I am very disappointed with your post. You are a very good poster, but it seems nationalism is undermining your ability to judge.

And you think this was all done in overnight? that people revolted against gaddafi? Where was the Western democarcy when he was in power for the last 40 years or so ? You only heard the cries when it was time to remove him because it suited your interests, This is exactly what West is doing with Saudi supporting total dictatorship, when Al Saud family moves away from Path and people will start to shout. The freedom provider West would jump in and then bomb the shit out of the place and start their illegal trade of natural resources. It was never about people or their welfare it was purely about self interest and destroying a full fledged nation.

You could have force him into improving his Human right records in the past 40 years, Come one West has all the tool to do it. As i said you could have brought your rich culture and education which is globally renowned and France on its own could have done what USa in IRAQ couldnt, If the real intetion was to help people and rebuild there country, Just imagine you would have another big north African market for French goods, It could have been a win win situation for both.

Now you guys will watch and wait what you couldn't do while Chinese have learnt from your mistakes and are no making great strides in projecting their ever growing soft power, all this while keeping the soft view of local population as partner in building.
 
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No. It was caused by an insane cross dressing dictator and his Muslim Brotherhood and Salafist enemies.
Hi,
IRAQ war WMD !! rings any bell, The whole process wasn't done in over night it tooks years of instability and friction to fuel this.
 
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I hope that Serbia will never face that problems, we did not have colonial empire like French, Portugese, Spanish, British....and we dont want to redemption ourselves from exploitation third world countries and we dont want emigrants in our countries. We may help but not making another -STAN of our country. So liberals fu*k off.
 
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US: Let's kick the Soviets out of Afghanistan - Birth of Taliban and Al quaeda

US: We want Iraqi Oil, lets go invade Iraq in search of mythical WMDs, Oops we didn't find any - Lets pull out while the country burns

US, French & Brits - We want democracy everywhere, lets bomb the shit out of Libya and Syria - Birth of ISIS.

US - Of fc*k, we are way over heads in Afganishtan, lets leave the mess to Pakistanis

While west play their games, humanity dies a bit everyday
 
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I hope that Serbia will never face that problems, we did not have colonial empire like French, Portugese, Spanish, British....and we dont want to redemption ourselves from exploitation third world countries and we dont want emigrants in our countries. We may help but not making another -STAN of our country. So liberals fu*k off.
Serbia has Albanians to deal with though. Don't envy you there.
 
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Good, let them "hunger strike" for longer. The whole thing is a big sham. They arrive at one end of Europe and then traverse all the way through to get to their required destination i.e. where the most freebies are. You'd think that they would be satisfied with the first safe country they arrive at, as per international law, but no they want more.
Having been to Calais and seen the daily battles these people engage in with sticks, knives rocks, basically anything at hand, a country would be crazy to let such ruthless people in. Oh did I mention the numerous accounts of lorry drivers being threatened with having their throats when they find the stowaways?
It's time to get tough. I'd go as far to say the UK should deploy significant police and territorial army units at Calais to aid the French.
 
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Italy has to arrest them all and put them in these reception centres. If there isn't enough space build more of them. Then release only the genuine refugees after they pass through screening and send everyone else back in their origin countries. And then have the EU distribute the genuine refugees to all member-states according to size, population, GDP etc.
 
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A nation cannot be blackmailed due to fuckups by fanatics on some other part of the world.Your country,go back.Pick up a weapon and get your own country back or die trying..instead of running and imposing urself on the world.


They usually find the courage to pick up weapons in Western countries because they want laws like those from where they fled from.

I hope that Serbia will never face that problems, we did not have colonial empire like French, Portugese, Spanish, British....and we dont want to redemption ourselves from exploitation third world countries and we dont want emigrants in our countries. We may help but not making another -STAN of our country. So liberals fu*k off.


I've heard that Hungary is building a wall and now you're stuck with all those migrants in transit.:undecided:

And then have the EU distribute the genuine refugees to all member-states according to size, population, GDP etc.

NO

I don't owe them anything and we've got our own problems to deal with it.Send them all back and finish this "drama".
 
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We can't send them all back. Some of them come from Syria. It'd be against both EU and international law...
 
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Hi, But it was your fault to bomb in the name of freedom and democracy in first place, the looting of their natural resources. I remember french played a very dominating role in libya bombing, I guess that was the only operation where France was able to show off rafaels capability
Only had a few thousand years of civilisation ahead of every other part of the world, people from the middle east have been conquering, ravaging, force converting entire nations for centuries and centuries unchecked, settling in Southern and Eastern Europe, large parts of Africa and Asia and spreading religion across the world, enslaving millions and apart from a few centuries of progress in the middle it has done nothing but slow down society and this stopped when European nations advanced further ahead, now the remnants of "civilization" are barbaric and archaic religions where most people are so backwards and really unaware and not concerned about progress or moving forwards in the world and this is the west fault?

If given an unlimited amount of wealth every other country apart from muslim countries removed from the world you still wouldnt progress, you would just fight each other like you do now as its not a new occurrence its been happening since Mesopotamia and with religions grasp has gone increasingly worse. The only reason you didnt hear about it before was because most of the region was so far flung back technologically speaking that any real troubles were tribal. The ME area was the birthplace of civilisation and was home to vast empires who stomped all over other peoples lands like the US etc does now, except the only thing those empires left was a religion which has shackled the populace. And given such time periods to flourish which the area did for a few millenia it slowed down, peaked up every now and then had a few hundred years of advancement in the so called "golden age" where alot of advancement came from places like Al Andalus (uhh invaded and conquered land) and then got thrown back into the dark ages where most countries mindsets still are. The wealthy arab countries think the best thing to do with all this money is stockpile gold and build skyscrapers each one bigger than the last, its going to take a hell of alot of mindset change to see conflict cease in the region and a few centuries atleast of people examine rational thought and thinking outside of what they have been told all their life, until that day religious beefs will keep the area down.

Its not the evil West to blame, its lack of cohesion and a united ground, even if you could get all the arab countries to stand united as one they will just have their superiority complex shrouding the surrounding nations
 
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Only had a few thousand years of civilisation ahead of every other part of the world, people from the middle east have been conquering, ravaging, force converting entire nations for centuries and centuries unchecked, settling in Southern and Eastern Europe, large parts of Africa and Asia and spreading religion across the world, enslaving millions and apart from a few centuries of progress in the middle it has done nothing but slow down society and this stopped when European nations advanced further ahead, now the remnants of "civilization" are barbaric and archaic religions where most people are so backwards and really unaware and not concerned about progress or moving forwards in the world and this is the west fault?

If given an unlimited amount of wealth every other country apart from muslim countries removed from the world you still wouldnt progress, you would just fight each other like you do now as its not a new occurrence its been happening since Mesopotamia and with religions grasp has gone increasingly worse. The only reason you didnt hear about it before was because most of the region was so far flung back technologically speaking that any real troubles were tribal. The ME area was the birthplace of civilisation and was home to vast empires who stomped all over other peoples lands like the US etc does now, except the only thing those empires left was a religion which has shackled the populace. And given such time periods to flourish which the area did for a few millenia it slowed down, peaked up every now and then had a few hundred years of advancement in the so called "golden age" where alot of advancement came from places like Al Andalus (uhh invaded and conquered land) and then got thrown back into the dark ages where most countries mindsets still are. The wealthy arab countries think the best thing to do with all this money is stockpile gold and build skyscrapers each one bigger than the last, its going to take a hell of alot of mindset change to see conflict cease in the region and a few centuries atleast of people examine rational thought and thinking outside of what they have been told all their life, until that day religious beefs will keep the area down.

Its not the evil West to blame, its lack of cohesion and a united ground, even if you could get all the arab countries to stand united as one they will just have their superiority complex shrouding the surrounding nations
Hi,

I do have to agree with your last statement, except for the part where you have conveniently omitted your responsibility, resettlement of jews in Palestine by succumbing to pressure by Rothschild

Having said that, Wasnt it the Muslims who had saved jews from extinction during crusades ?

As far as enslavement and stuff is concerned, Son please let us not exaggerate it please. They were never forceful conversions as you have incorrectly mentioned out of your plain blind hatred. In fact it was more along the lines of how christian missionaries back in Times of British empire in India would come and convert the local poor population to Christianity, likewise Muslims were impressed by the justice and equality system of Islam and hence were CONVERTED.

Apart From religious discussion lets move on towards the so-called great Britain's atrocities and the amount of wealth looted from India. Obviously no one will be more ashamed than British himself when he has to read of atrocties not only just carried on India but elsewhere too. The near extinction of Indigenous population of Red-Indians in North america and on australia.

This is just tip of an ice-berg.

List of massacres of Indigenous Australians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I possibly cannot list the massacres carried by the Great white Britain as the list will take me days, but i can sure list some of the details in the region of sub-continent from where I belong.

separate roads for the whites as they only had the right to drive cars, while the coloured or local population even if they were rich enough had to take roads where only donkey carts can be used or otherwise would just have to walk.

Karsevak India: BRITISH ATROCITIES AGAINST INDIANS
the massacre of 1850, the exploitation of local population, in fact my ancestors were slave in their own land.

Coming to modern times as latest as 50's To talk about British atrocities in Kenya during the Mau Mau era is nonsense | John Allen | Comment is free | The Guardian
this is what was done.

The so-called of champions of democracy and freedom are the people who are from same descendants, so I wouldn't be surprised if a fully functional country such as Iraq is invaded for something like Non existent WMD in the name of democracy.

It could be for anything but definitely not out of goodness of pure heart.
 
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