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[I.R.A]

Of course it is

Then why is there a need for a prophet?

Divine revelations stopped after Quran yes or no?

 

[M. Sarmad]

Then why is there a need for a prophet?

Divine revelations stopped after Quran yes or no?

There is no need for a Prophet, Messiah or the second coming of Jesus ...

Divine revelations stopped after Qur'an, but unfortunately the majority of Muslims today derive their religion not from Qur'an but from books written after Qur'an. What's your point ?

 

[I.R.A]

There is no need for a Prophet, Messiah or the second coming of Jesus ...

Divine revelations stopped after Qur'an, but unfortunately the majority of Muslims today derive their religion not from Qur'an but from books written after Qur'an. What's your point ?

The point is simple and clear, after Khatam e nazool of Quran, any person who now or has in past claimed that he gets / got Divine revelations ........ is a liar. You can study prophecies of Mr Ghulam Ahmed Mirza and his claims about the source of his prophecies.

 

[padamchen]

Don't a large percentage of world Muslims believe in the Mahdi (sp?)

Who is he if not a Prophet?

Funnily, another "loan" from Zoroastrianism for the Abrahamic world. Saoshyant.

Cheers, Doc

 

[M. Sarmad]

The point is simple and clear, after Khatam e nazool of Quran, any person who now or has in past claimed that he gets / got Divine revelations ........ is a liar. You can study prophecies of Mr Ghulam Ahmed Mirza and his claims about the source of his prophecies.

You are free to believe that he was a liar ... and I am inclined to agree with you. But that's besides the point. The point in that the State has no right to declare someone a Non Muslim when he says that he is a Muslim.... Even the founder of Ahmaddiya sect Mirza Ghulam Ahmed believed that Quran was unaltered word of Allah and stated that perversion in the text of the holy Quran was beyond the range of possibility. Ahmadis believe in exactly the same Quran as other Muslims. Just because they interpret one verse differently (and that verse has been interpreted by some medieval scholars in exactly the same way as Ahmadis do, meaning that this specific contentious interpretation hasn't been invented by Ahmadis) doesn't mean that they have nothing to do with Islam. At max you can call them a misguided/heretic sect of Muslims.

 

[Verve]

Don't a large percentage of world Muslims believe in the Mahdi (sp?)

Who is he if not a Prophet?

Imam.

 

[gutto786]

So Jesus when he comes back will not be a prophet??

 

[El Sidd]

Lol

 

[M. Sarmad]

So Jesus when he comes back will not be a prophet??

The second coming of Jesus has not been mentioned explicitly in the Holy Qur'an ... It is a Christian concept which like many other jeudo-christian concepts has crept into Islam via Hadith Books

Imam.

Any reference from the Holy Qur'an ?

 

[padamchen]

Imam.

Millions believe in and wait for the coming of an Imam for deliverance?

Does Nostradamus also not predict the coming of a bearded man from the east (he was European) at the head of an army marching under black flags???

Cheers, Doc

So Jesus when he comes back will not be a prophet??

Good question.

It almost sounds (to me) like it (Jesus's rebirth) not fitting too well in someone's scheme of things. Or plan.

And the narrative woven around it.

Preemption by divine decree almost, if one were not a believer.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Kabira]

The second coming of Jesus has not been mentioned explicitly in the Holy Qur'an ... It is a Christian concept which like many other jeudo-christian concepts has crept into Islam via Hadith Books



Any reference from the Holy Qur'an ?

2nd coming of jesus is believed by all muslims. Yes its judeu-christian inspired like so many other things in Islam which is so obvious. Next you will say Jesus have crept in to Islam.

 

[M. Sarmad]

2nd coming of jesus is believed by all muslims. Yes its judeu-christian inspired like so many other things in Islam which is so obvious. Next you will say Jesus have crept in to Islam.

Read my post again, carefully ...
And quote the exact Quranic verse that explicitly mentions Second Coming of Jesus

 

[Kabira]

Read my post again, carefully ...
And quote the exact Quranic verse that explicitly mentions Second Coming of Jesus

Any muslim who reject hadith isn't muslim to begin with.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Any muslim who reject hadith isn't muslim to begin with.

You can take this Fatwa of yours and shove it where the sun don't shine ...

JFYI, even the first supposedly authentic Hadith Book i.e. "Muwatta" by Imam Malik makes no mention of Second Coming of Jesus ... This second coming is mentioned only in Hadith Books compiled later on ... And all such Hadith that tell us about the Second coming of Jesus have one guy named Ibn Shihab Zuhri in the chain of narrators. Do some research, mate

 

[Verve]

Millions believe in and wait for the coming of an Imam for deliverance?

That's not equivalent to belief in a fake prophet like this ghulam fellow who created a small noisy cult that is in bed with Israel.