Mexico is top destination for India’s automobile exports

[Indika]

Could be. By focusing on importing cheaper made cars from India, the car factories in Mexico can focus on making better margins and optimization for exporting their products to the US/Canada through NAFTA.

I dont think its a straight re-badging...Mexico will get in serious trouble (the NAFTA clauses are pretty water tight) and it will be easy to find them out lol.

Some high class BD invitees for comment: @Anubis @Bilal9 @Loki

And now some baniyan-wallahs too: @kobiraaz @UKBengali @Species @Riyad @TopCat

True,
US automotive sector had a great run since recession, now they are hitting plateau . One way to stay in the race is to manage inventories , produce more cars where it is cheap and ship them to manage the demand.

Well need to see if Indian manufacturers adopt the same safety standards of US. It would be a welcome move.

 

[Nilgiri]

True,
US automotive sector had a great run since recession, now they are hitting plateau . One way to stay in the race is to manage inventories , produce more cars where it is cheap and ship them to manage the demand.

Well need to see if Indian manufacturers adopt the same safety standards of US. It would be a welcome move.

It will be tough to break into US market given the NAFTA advantage that mexico enjoys. Premium market is already covered by the japanese and germans strongly.

Maybe trump can change all this hehe

 

[Anubis]

Could be. By focusing on importing cheaper made cars from India, the car factories in Mexico can focus on making better margins and optimization for exporting their products to the US/Canada through NAFTA.

I dont think its a straight re-badging...Mexico will get in serious trouble (the NAFTA clauses are pretty water tight) and it will be easy to find them out lol.

Some high class BD invitees for comment: @Anubis @Bilal9 @Loki

And now some baniyan-wallahs too: @kobiraaz @UKBengali @Species @Riyad @TopCat

Are the export versions made separately or follow different standards...because if memory serves me right Indian VWs were deemed unsafe by the EU..Mexico might not maintain that standard but what about the UK?

True,
US automotive sector had a great run since recession, now they are hitting plateau . One way to stay in the race is to manage inventories , produce more cars where it is cheap and ship them to manage the demand.

Well need to see if Indian manufacturers adopt the same safety standards of US. It would be a welcome move.

I don't think they will adopt them unless they see a big opportunity to enter the US market...adopting US standards for the Indian market will essentially jack up the price and kill the whichever company does it.

Or you can always cheat...like VW did with its emissions...but if you get caught the companies will go bankrupt to compensate for people's "emotional distress". And we here will be getting 20 phone calls a day with an annoying automated voice going "have you been sold an Indian car recently...."

 

[Nilgiri]

because if memory serves me right Indian VWs were deemed unsafe by the EU.

Need a source for that. As far as I know its mostly because Europe is already saturated with local VW production hubs.

VW India (under its parents strategy) has always focused on Mexico, Rest of Latin America and South Africa beyond the local Indian market.

http://www.volkswagenag.com/content...wagen_India_sets_new_production_landmark.html

Mexico might not maintain that standard but what about the UK?

"A Volkswagen built anywhere in the world is of the same quality standards – be it in Europe, Asia, America or anywhere else. India is no exception to this and all the cars built by our highly skilled workforce at Pune Plant fulfil all the required quality standards of a Volkswagen. This enables us also to export our Indian built cars to over 32 countries across the globe. We will continue to focus on highest built quality to cater the demand from all our markets – the domestic and the export markets", Mr. Andreas Lauenroth added.

Also worth reading:

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/volkswagen...export-has-shipped-over-1-85-lakh-cars-671130

http://www.worldsrichestcountries.com/top_indian_exporters_trade_partners.html

Automobile Exports (2014)
Indian exports for this product category were $14.5 billion. The 10 countries below imported 47.8% of that total.
1. United States: $1.2 billion (8.4%)
2. Mexico: $1 billion (6.9%)
3. South Africa: $888.8 million (6.1%)
4. United Kingdom: $637.4 million (4.4%)
5. Sri Lanka: $596.9 million (4.1%)
6. Bangladesh: $592.1 million (4.1%)
7. Turkey: $580.4 million (4%)
8. Nigeria: $546.8 million (3.8%)
9. United Arab Emirates: $433.6 million (3%)
10. Colombia: $428.9 million (3%)

(I think this includes motorcycles etc too)

@Gibbs @Godman

 

[Anubis]

Need a source for that. As far as I know its mostly because Europe is already saturated with local VW production hubs.

VW India (under its parents strategy) has always focused on Mexico, Rest of Latin America and South Africa beyond the local Indian market.

http://www.volkswagenag.com/content...wagen_India_sets_new_production_landmark.html



"A Volkswagen built anywhere in the world is of the same quality standards – be it in Europe, Asia, America or anywhere else. India is no exception to this and all the cars built by our highly skilled workforce at Pune Plant fulfil all the required quality standards of a Volkswagen. This enables us also to export our Indian built cars to over 32 countries across the globe. We will continue to focus on highest built quality to cater the demand from all our markets – the domestic and the export markets", Mr. Andreas Lauenroth added.

Also worth reading:

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/volkswagen...export-has-shipped-over-1-85-lakh-cars-671130

http://www.worldsrichestcountries.com/top_indian_exporters_trade_partners.html

Automobile Exports (2014)
Indian exports for this product category were $14.5 billion. The 10 countries below imported 47.8% of that total.
1. United States: $1.2 billion (8.4%)
2. Mexico: $1 billion (6.9%)
3. South Africa: $888.8 million (6.1%)
4. United Kingdom: $637.4 million (4.4%)
5. Sri Lanka: $596.9 million (4.1%)
6. Bangladesh: $592.1 million (4.1%)
7. Turkey: $580.4 million (4%)
8. Nigeria: $546.8 million (3.8%)
9. United Arab Emirates: $433.6 million (3%)
10. Colombia: $428.9 million (3%)

(I think this includes motorcycles etc too)

@Gibbs @Godman

Your Polo failed(they were selling without Airbags).
Seems they withdrew the VWs from the market...4 others failed too.

 

[Nilgiri]

Your Polo failed(they were selling without Airbags).
Seems they withdrew the VWs from the market...4 others failed too.

Oh ok I thought you had something more recent regardind export. That domestic issue was resolved long ago:

Coinciding with the Global NCAP tests, Volkswagen has decided to withdraw the non-airbag version of the Polo from sale in India. Because of this, Global NCAP agreed to a request from VW to assess a version of the Polo that has two airbags fitted as standard as from now.

It has nothing to do with the cars India exports. They have to meet global standards regarding the country that imports them:

http://auto.ndtv.com/news/made-in-i...res-5-stars-at-asean-ncap-crash-tests-1408195

For example Maruti is launching another model in Europe:

Here is its safety results:

http://auto.ndtv.com/news/top-variant-of-made-in-india-baleno-gets-4-star-euro-ncap-rating-1397692

India local regulations (for domestic production) will need to improve to have the same safety standards as the developed world.

 

[HAIDER]

They themselves produce cars if i am not wrong mainly VW i guess

Under NAFTA they have lots of automobile assembly plants.There favorite auto is VW or Ford Explorer and Tequila .

 

[baajey]

Your Polo failed(they were selling without Airbags).
Seems they withdrew the VWs from the market...4 others failed too.

i think u r talking about the base model polo 2009-2013. those trendline models did not have airbags.
now the global NCAP score is 4 stars.

 

[Nilgiri]

i think u r talking about the base model polo 2009-2013. those trendline models did not have airbags.
now the global NCAP score is 4 stars.

Lots of domestic Indian cars still get 0 rating and fail standard crash test parameters.

This is not because of capability of the producer....but because of old Indian legislation (producer still meets those "standards" and thus is not breaking any laws). Any budget car that introduces more safety unilaterally simply gets undercut by those that dont....there needs to be an overall standards increase.

There needs to be a reform here.....the cost wont go up exponentially per car either (esp considering lives saved per year).

 

[baajey]

Lots of domestic Indian cars still get 0 rating and fail standard crash test parameters.

This is not because of capability of the producer....but because of old Indian legislation (producer still meets those "standards" and thus is not breaking any laws). Any budget car that introduces more safety unilaterally simply gets undercut by those that dont....there needs to be an overall standards increase.

There needs to be a reform here.....the cost wont go up exponentially per car either (esp considering lives saved per year).

japs n koreans have lulled the indian buyer into a big herd of sheep looking only for fuel efficiency n flashy knobs inside the cabin. important features such as airbags, ABS etc are conveniently sidelined.
If not for the patgetic *** (after sales service) of VW they could actually pull off a coup in india. but alas, even the washers in their service centers think themselves as purebred aryans and customers as puny insects.
otoh, although baleno passed with 3/4 stars, i would not be very comfortable in it. collapsible engine bay apart, the sheet metal is paper thin (compared to a polo). their high tensile steel might entice lot of buyers, but def not me.

 

[Nilgiri]

japs n koreans have lulled the indian buyer into a big herd of sheep looking only for fuel efficiency n flashy knobs inside the cabin. important features such as airbags, ABS etc are conveniently sidelined.
If not for the patgetic *** (after sales service) of VW they could actually pull off a coup in india. but alas, even the washers in their service centers think themselves as purebred aryans and customers as puny insects.
otoh, although baleno passed with 3/4 stars, i would not be very comfortable in it. collapsible engine bay apart, the sheet metal is paper thin (compared to a polo). their high tensile steel might entice lot of buyers, but def not me.

Hence why the govt should step in with setting standards. Consumerism on the bottom dollar leads to market failure in this case.

This is not like taxing countless paan wallahs....car standards are very easy to enforce given the way they are produced and certified.

 

[Kaniska]

Are the export versions made separately or follow different standards...because if memory serves me right Indian VWs were deemed unsafe by the EU..Mexico might not maintain that standard but what about the UK?


I don't think they will adopt them unless they see a big opportunity to enter the US market...adopting US standards for the Indian market will essentially jack up the price and kill the whichever company does it.

Or you can always cheat...like VW did with its emissions...but if you get caught the companies will go bankrupt to compensate for people's "emotional distress". And we here will be getting 20 phone calls a day with an annoying automated voice going "have you been sold an Indian car recently...."

I can sense good amount of frustration with some people...But you should know how to control your emotions...

 

[Anubis]

I can sense good amount of frustration with some people...But you should know how to control your emotions...

I asked a legitimate question(and I based the question on the fact that some Indian cars and a model of VW did fail NCAP tests)...I would not expect India to suddenly impose strict safety regulations and jack up the prices of the locally produced cars in the local market...I have no clue as to how strict regulations are in Mexico as I am generally ignorant about Mexico...but I know that the UK followed EU standards...so I asked whether separate standards were followed and two of your compatriots graciously answered my question...don't flatter yourself with the achievement of manufacturing German cars...if the Chinese members here follow your example and start boasting about manufacturing foreign brands we will all have to leave the forum.

 

[Nilgiri]

I can sense good amount of frustration with some people...But you should know how to control your emotions...

Don't need to trash on people I invited into this topic for a reason. He asked a valid question and it got a reply.

Why are you needling unnecessarily?

 

[Kaniska]

I asked a legitimate question(and I based the question on the fact that some Indian cars and a model of VW did fail NCAP tests)...I would not expect India to suddenly impose strict safety regulations and jack up the prices of the locally produced cars in the local market...I have no clue as to how strict regulations are in Mexico as I am generally ignorant about Mexico...but I know that the UK followed EU standards...so I asked whether separate standards were followed and two of your compatriots graciously answered my question...don't flatter yourself with the achievement of manufacturing German cars...if the Chinese members here follow your example and start boasting about manufacturing foreign brands we will all have to leave the forum.

It is your choice when you have to leave the forum for some reason...But not mine. At least for a moment, just feel pride and ownership of what BD can do and can not do...It looks silly when you try to take credit of someone else's effort....
Anyway, there are different ways to ask a genuine question than using words that does not show right spirit.

Don't need to trash on people I invited into this topic for a reason. He asked a valid question and it got a reply.

Why are you needling unnecessarily?

Never mind...Got your point.