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Mehrgarh - Early farming in the Indus Valley (Ancient Pakistan III)

this whole subcontinent was known as india from last 3000 years .
And where the word India come from?. Stop been notorious here and accept the facts. World don't know any world India 300 years back and you are claiming 3000 bc.
 
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And where the word India come from?. Stop been notorious here and accept the facts. World don't know any world India 300 years back and you are claiming 3000 bc.

check you hiostory sir ,
columbus was searching india in 1492 , you were no where around.
 
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Great stuff @Indus Priest King Great stuff. Keep it coming. Ignore the Ganga aboriginals who suffer the same complex as Black Africans. Living in swamp jungles, munching on bananas while being naked only managed a primitive existence. The Black Africans to balm their inferiority complex try to use Nile Egypt as a panacea. In the case of Ganga Indians they use Indus Pakistan to gain lustre.
 
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Great stuff @Indus Priest King Great stuff. Keep it coming. Ignore the Ganga aboriginals who suffer the same complex as Black Africans. Living in swamp jungles, munching on bananas while being naked only managed a primitive existence. The Black Africans to balm their inferiority complex try to use Nile Egypt as a panacea. In the case of Ganga Indians they use Indus Pakistan to gain lustre.

lol ............:cheesy::cheesy::cheesy:
 
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check you hiostory sir ,
columbus was searching india in 1492 , you were no where around.

Get your facts correct,

The name India is derived from Indus (Indu or in local Sindhu), which originates from the Old Persian word Hindu.[20] The latter term stems from the Sanskrit word Sindhu, which was the historical local appellation for the Indus River.[21] The ancient Greeks referred to the Indians as Indoi (Ἰνδοί), which translates as "The people of the Indus".[22](see yourself it is not India)

The geographical term Bharat (Bhārat, pronounced [ˈbʱaːɾət̪] ( listen)), which is recognized by the Constitution of India as an official name for the country,[23] is used by many Indian languages in its variations. It is a modernization of the historical name Bharatavarsha, which traditionally referred to the Indian subcontinent and gained increasing currency from the mid-19th century as a native name for India.[19][24]

Hindustan ([ɦɪnd̪ʊˈst̪aːn] ( listen)) is a Persian name for India dating back to the 3rd century BCE (it divert from word Indu-(astan mean place like Pak-istan, Afghan-istan and other) . It was introduced into India by the Mughals and widely used since then. Its meaning varied, referring to a region that encompassed northern India and Pakistan or India in its entirety
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India.

So Facts is that you guys having serious identity crisis and you guys living in fool world and facts didn't support your claim by any means.

So tell me where are you guys and you are claiming that they are referring you guys:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
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Great stuff @Indus Priest King Great stuff. Keep it coming. Ignore the Ganga aboriginals who suffer the same complex as Black Africans. Living in swamp jungles, munching on bananas while being naked only managed a primitive existence. The Black Africans to balm their inferiority complex try to use Nile Egypt as a panacea. In the case of Ganga Indians they use Indus Pakistan to gain lustre.
African countries have better infrastructure than South Asians.
 
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Can we stop bringing India/ Pakistan or Hindu/ Muslim to these kind of threads and JUST NOT TROLL!!!

Just try to learn something new. If you already know everything, just bug off from these threads..

The real issue is why these people are allowed to post here. Who are the admins? What exactly is the policy here?

To talk about Pakistan or to increase post counts? I'm under the impression that the owners of this forum are making quite a bit of money based off ads and they encourage Pak India conflicts to increase posts/clicks which in turn increase turnover.

If this is true, I want no part of this forum.

I was warned already at Mehfile Pakistan Skyscraper Forum about the sheer lack of common sense and odd administration.

I now fully understand. I will not be posting on this forum until I get a proper response from somebody in charge.

~ Early Farming Communities of the Indus Valley ~

Mehrgarh is a large Neolithic and Chalcolithic site located at the foot of the Bolan pass on the Kachi plain of Balochistan province of Pakistan. Continuously inhabited between about 7000 to 2600 BC, Mehrgarh is the earliest known Neolithic site in the the Indus Valley, with early evidence of farming (wheat and barley), herding (cattle, sheep, and goats) and metallurgy. The site is located on the principal route between Central Asia and the Indus Valley: this route was also undoubtedly part of a trading connection established quite early between the Near East, South Asia and Central Asia.

~ Zagros Origins ~
Sedentism, farming, and agriculture was invented some 10,000 years ago in a region between southeastern Anatolia in Turkey, Iran, Iraq, and Syria, an area traditionally labeled as the Fertile Crescent. Most of the technology and culture associated with farming including domesticated sheep, goat and cattle originated here. The transition from a hunter-gatherer lifestyle to agriculture and sedentism was considered such a radical change in human ecology that the term Neolithic revolution was coined for it. Previous research held that a single group of hunter-gatherers developed agriculture in the Middle East and then migrated to Europe, Asia and Africa, where they gradually replaced or mixed with the local population. However, recent unearthed evidence suggests this may not be true. An international research team led by palaeogeneticists of Johannes Gutenberg University Mainz (JGU) published a study in the journal "Science" claiming that the earliest farmers from the Zagros mountains are not the main ancestors of Europe's first farmers or of modern-day Europeans. Instead, they may be ancestors of the modern-day Pakistani and Afghan populations and were definitely related to those who established Mehrgarh. The research team, consisted of scientists from Europe, the United States and Iran who identified similarities between the Neolithic farmer’s DNA and that of living people in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, and Iranian Zoroastrians in particular. Scientists examined the DNA of 9,000 to 10,000-year-old bone fragments discovered in a cave near Eslamabad, 600 kilometers (370 miles) southwest of Tehran, and found they belonged to a man with black hair, brown eyes and brown skin. Intriguingly, the man's diet included cereals, a sign that he had learned how to cultivate crops. In sum, it seems like at least two highly divergent groups became the world's first famers: the Zagros people of the Neolithic eastern Fertile Crescent that are ancestral to most modern Afghans and Pakistanis, and the Aegeans that colonized Europe some 8000 years ago.

~ Chronology ~
Aceramic Neolithic founding 7000-5500 BC
Neolithic Period II 5500-4800 BC
Chalcolithic Period III 4800-3500 BC
Chalcolithic Period IV, 3500-3250 BC
Chalcolithic V 3250-3000 BC
Chalcolithic VI 3000-2800 BC
Chalcolithic VII-Early Bronze Age 2800-2600 BC

~ Aceramic Neolithic ~
The earliest settled portion of Mehrgarh is found in an area called MR.3, in the northeast corner of the immense site. Mehrgarh was a small farming and pastoralist village between 7000-5500 BC, with mud brick houses and granaries. The early residents used local copper ore, basket containers lined with bitumen, and an array of bone tools. Plant foods used during this period included domesticated and wild six-rowed barley, domestic einkorn and emmer wheat, and wild Indian jujube (Zizyphus spp) and date palms (Phoenix dactylifera). Sheep, goats, and cattle were herded at Mehrgarh beginning during this early period. Hunted animals include gazelle, swamp deer, nilgai, blackbuck onager, chital, water buffalo, wild pig and elephant. The earliest residences at Mehrgarh were freestanding, multi-roomed rectangular houses built with long, cigar-shaped and mortared mudbricks: these structures are very similar to Prepottery Neolithic (PPN) hunter-gatherers in early 7th millennium Mesopotamia. Burials were placed in brick-lined tombs, accompanied by shell and turquoise beads. Even at this early date, the similarities of crafts, architecture, and agricultural and funerary practices indicate some sort of connection between Mehrgarh and Mesopotamia.

~ Neolithic Period II 5500-4800 ~
By the sixth millennium, agriculture had become firmly established at Mehrgarh, based on mostly (~90%) locally domesticated barley but also wheat from the near east. The earliest pottery was made by sequential slab construction, and the site contained circular fire pits filled with burnt pebbles and large granaries, characteristics also of similarly dated Mesopotamian sites. Buildings made of sun-dried brick were large and rectangular, symmetrically divided into small square or rectangular units. They were doorless and lack of residential remains, suggesting to researchers that at least some of they were storage facilities for grains or other commodities which were communally shared. Other buildings are standardized rooms surrounded by large open work spaces where craft-working activities took place, including the beginnings of the extensive bead-making characteristic of the Indus.

~ Chalcolithic Period III 4800-3500 & IV 3500-3250 BC ~
By the Chalcolithic Period III at Mehrgarh, the community, now well over 100 hectares, consisted of large spaces with groups of building divided into residences and storage units, but more elaborate, with foundations of pebbles embedded in clay. The bricks were made with molds, and along with fine painted wheel-thrown pottery, and a variety of agricultural and craft practices. Chalcolithic Period IV showed a continuity in pottery and crafts but progressive stylistic changes. During this period, the region split into small and medium sized compact settlements connected by canals. Some of the settlements included blocks of houses with courtyards separated by small passageways; and the presence of large storage jars in rooms and courtyards.

~ Later Periods at Mehrgarh ~
Later periods included craft activities such as flint knapping, tanning, and expanded bead production; and a significant level of metal-working, particularly copper. The site was occupied continuously until about 2600 BC, when it was abandoned, about the time when the Harappan periods of the Indus civilization began to flourish at Harappa, Mohenjo-Daro and Kot Diji, among other sites. Mehrgarh was discovered and excavated by an international led by French archaeologist Jean-François Jarrige; the site was excavated continuously between 1974 and 1986 by the French Archaeological Mission in collaboration with the Department of Archaeology of Pakistan.

 
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The real issue is why these people are allowed to post here. Who are the admins? What exactly is the policy here?

To talk about Pakistan or to increase post counts? I'm under the impression that the owners of this forum are making quite a bit of money based off ads and they encourage Pak India conflicts to increase posts/clicks which in turn increase turnover.

If this is true, I want no part of this forum.

I was warned already at Mehfile Pakistan Skyscraper Forum about the sheer lack of common sense and odd administration.
from what I gather, your highness or anyone else can post anything, abuse anyone here.
Things to bear in mind and avoid are: 1. do not insult Bengldeshis unless you want a ban for one week. 2. Must never offend any Shia brothers if you do you'll either be banned for a month or will be put on a permanent ignore list by forum staff like I am
I now fully understand. I will not be posting on this forum until I get a proper response from somebody in charge.
aww shucks! I was looking forward to that but you went and broke your promise and my heart by keeping on posting
 
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The real issue is why these people are allowed to post here. Who are the admins? What exactly is the policy here?

To talk about Pakistan or to increase post counts? I'm under the impression that the owners of this forum are making quite a bit of money based off ads and they encourage Pak India conflicts to increase posts/clicks which in turn increase turnover.

If this is true, I want no part of this forum.

I was warned already at Mehfile Pakistan Skyscraper Forum about the sheer lack of common sense and odd administration.

I now fully understand. I will not be posting on this forum until I get a proper response from somebody in charge.

~ Early Farming Communities of the Indus Valley ~

Mehrgarh is a large Neolithic and Chalcolithic site located at the foot of the Bolan pass on the Kachi plain of Balochistan province of Pakistan. Continuously inhabited between about 7000 to 2600 BC, Mehrgarh is the earliest known Neolithic site in the the Indus Valley, with early evidence of farming (wheat and barley), herding (cattle, sheep, and goats) and metallurgy. The site is located on the principal route between Central Asia and the Indus Valley: this route was also undoubtedly part of a trading connection established quite early between the Near East, South Asia and Central Asia.

~ Zagros Origins ~
Sedentism, farming, and agriculture was invented some 10,000 years ago in a region between southeastern Anatolia in Turkey, Iran, Iraq, and Syria, an area traditionally labeled as the Fertile Crescent. Most of the technology and culture associated with farming including domesticated sheep, goat and cattle originated here. The transition from a hunter-gatherer lifestyle to agriculture and sedentism was considered such a radical change in human ecology that the term Neolithic revolution was coined for it. Previous research held that a single group of hunter-gatherers developed agriculture in the Middle East and then migrated to Europe, Asia and Africa, where they gradually replaced or mixed with the local population. However, recent unearthed evidence suggests this may not be true. An international research team led by palaeogeneticists of Johannes Gutenberg University Mainz (JGU) published a study in the journal "Science" claiming that the earliest farmers from the Zagros mountains are not the main ancestors of Europe's first farmers or of modern-day Europeans. Instead, they may be ancestors of the modern-day Pakistani and Afghan populations and were definitely related to those who established Mehrgarh. The research team, consisted of scientists from Europe, the United States and Iran who identified similarities between the Neolithic farmer’s DNA and that of living people in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, and Iranian Zoroastrians in particular. Scientists examined the DNA of 9,000 to 10,000-year-old bone fragments discovered in a cave near Eslamabad, 600 kilometers (370 miles) southwest of Tehran, and found they belonged to a man with black hair, brown eyes and brown skin. Intriguingly, the man's diet included cereals, a sign that he had learned how to cultivate crops. In sum, it seems like at least two highly divergent groups became the world's first famers: the Zagros people of the Neolithic eastern Fertile Crescent that are ancestral to most modern Afghans and Pakistanis, and the Aegeans that colonized Europe some 8000 years ago.

~ Chronology ~
Aceramic Neolithic founding 7000-5500 BC
Neolithic Period II 5500-4800 BC
Chalcolithic Period III 4800-3500 BC
Chalcolithic Period IV, 3500-3250 BC
Chalcolithic V 3250-3000 BC
Chalcolithic VI 3000-2800 BC
Chalcolithic VII-Early Bronze Age 2800-2600 BC

~ Aceramic Neolithic ~
The earliest settled portion of Mehrgarh is found in an area called MR.3, in the northeast corner of the immense site. Mehrgarh was a small farming and pastoralist village between 7000-5500 BC, with mud brick houses and granaries. The early residents used local copper ore, basket containers lined with bitumen, and an array of bone tools. Plant foods used during this period included domesticated and wild six-rowed barley, domestic einkorn and emmer wheat, and wild Indian jujube (Zizyphus spp) and date palms (Phoenix dactylifera). Sheep, goats, and cattle were herded at Mehrgarh beginning during this early period. Hunted animals include gazelle, swamp deer, nilgai, blackbuck onager, chital, water buffalo, wild pig and elephant. The earliest residences at Mehrgarh were freestanding, multi-roomed rectangular houses built with long, cigar-shaped and mortared mudbricks: these structures are very similar to Prepottery Neolithic (PPN) hunter-gatherers in early 7th millennium Mesopotamia. Burials were placed in brick-lined tombs, accompanied by shell and turquoise beads. Even at this early date, the similarities of crafts, architecture, and agricultural and funerary practices indicate some sort of connection between Mehrgarh and Mesopotamia.

~ Neolithic Period II 5500-4800 ~
By the sixth millennium, agriculture had become firmly established at Mehrgarh, based on mostly (~90%) locally domesticated barley but also wheat from the near east. The earliest pottery was made by sequential slab construction, and the site contained circular fire pits filled with burnt pebbles and large granaries, characteristics also of similarly dated Mesopotamian sites. Buildings made of sun-dried brick were large and rectangular, symmetrically divided into small square or rectangular units. They were doorless and lack of residential remains, suggesting to researchers that at least some of they were storage facilities for grains or other commodities which were communally shared. Other buildings are standardized rooms surrounded by large open work spaces where craft-working activities took place, including the beginnings of the extensive bead-making characteristic of the Indus.

~ Chalcolithic Period III 4800-3500 & IV 3500-3250 BC ~
By the Chalcolithic Period III at Mehrgarh, the community, now well over 100 hectares, consisted of large spaces with groups of building divided into residences and storage units, but more elaborate, with foundations of pebbles embedded in clay. The bricks were made with molds, and along with fine painted wheel-thrown pottery, and a variety of agricultural and craft practices. Chalcolithic Period IV showed a continuity in pottery and crafts but progressive stylistic changes. During this period, the region split into small and medium sized compact settlements connected by canals. Some of the settlements included blocks of houses with courtyards separated by small passageways; and the presence of large storage jars in rooms and courtyards.

~ Later Periods at Mehrgarh ~
Later periods included craft activities such as flint knapping, tanning, and expanded bead production; and a significant level of metal-working, particularly copper. The site was occupied continuously until about 2600 BC, when it was abandoned, about the time when the Harappan periods of the Indus civilization began to flourish at Harappa, Mohenjo-Daro and Kot Diji, among other sites. Mehrgarh was discovered and excavated by an international led by French archaeologist Jean-François Jarrige; the site was excavated continuously between 1974 and 1986 by the French Archaeological Mission in collaboration with the Department of Archaeology of Pakistan.

I love your posts and hope that you keep posting. I agree with you that some people here are like brainless parrots and contribute absolutely nothing, repeating the same egoistic Indian nationalist fantasy in the face of overwhelming evidence and facts, something their low-IQ minds probably cannot comprehend. Please continue and I hope admins do something about these trolls @waz
 
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I love your posts and hope that you keep posting. I agree with you that some people here are like brainless parrots and contribute absolutely nothing, repeating the same egoistic Indian nationalist fantasy in the face of overwhelming evidence and facts, something their low-IQ minds probably cannot comprehend. Please continue and I hope admins do something about these trolls @waz
how much did you love his posts in which he objected to la ilaha illallah muhammadur rasulullah being displayed on Pakistani Railway stations? did you remember to give him thumbs up?
 
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how much did you love his posts in which he objected to la ilaha illallah muhammadur rasulullah being displayed on Pakistani Railway stations? did you remember to give him thumbs up?
Some people have different views on religion's role in society, that's the way it is.
 
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