Massive Financial blow to PKK

[Baykuş]

And what evidence do you have that this is the work of PKK and not the MIT or JITEM? Or even AKP? Or Gulen movement who is known to spread drugs amongst Kurdish students in their schools?

I reckon this is just a ''smart'' move from AKP to further give reason to build their stupid control points around in the Kurdish areas instead of doing it in Afyon and Istanbul which are known drug centres of Turkey.

PKK does not do drug business. Even the German Intelligence Service ( BND) has been saying this for years. Go read their reports which are actually based on facts, unlike the decieving turkish medias.

FAS, Federation of American Scientists:

Drug trafficking Is one of the major avenues used by terrorist organizations to raise funds for weapons systems and to launder money for so-called legitimate businesses. The PKK is no exception. Since its establishment, the PKK has been using drug profits to fund Its campaign of terror. After the military coup of 1980 in Turkey, many terrorists, including members of the PKK, began to immigrate to Europe. This gradually created a supply of human capital for the PKK to use in the continent.

Turkey has historically remained a key transshipment point for drug trafficking because of its desirable geographic location connecting Europe to Asia. In 1994, European narcotics specialists contended that 60-70% of Europe's heroin was passing through Istanbul. In addition, Tuncay Yilmaz, leader of the anti-narcotics unit of the Turkish National Police in Ankara, maintains that the PKK plays the dominant role In Turkey's narcotics smuggling industry. Most of the heroin coming from Afghanistan, Iran, and Pakistan pass through Turkey and head toward Western Europe. Several sources maintain that smuggling operations were partly controlled by Iranian nationals who escaped to Turkey after the 1979 revolution in Iran. Finally, police In Italy, Holland, Germany, and Scandinavia have been investigating and uncovering the PKK's Involvement In drug and arms smuggling In those nations since 1993.

Source: MFA - V. The PKK'S Role in International Drug Trafficking




U.S. Department of the Treasury, Office of Foreign Assets Control:

Zeyneddin Geleri has been identified as a high ranking member of the PKK, and a member of a Romania-based drug trafficking organization utilizing import and export companies for illicit activities across Europe. Geleri is also suspected of complicity with PKK activist Cerkez Akbulut, also known as Cernit Murat, who was the target of a March 2008 seizure of 199 kilograms of heroin worth approximately $8.8 million by Moldovan police. Akbulut is a PKK activist in Moldova responsible for the collection of funds in support of the group. Omer Boztepe acts for the PKK and is currently a fugitive from Moldovan authorities after being sentenced to 12 years imprisonment for narcotics trafficking activities.

The President named the PKK as a significant foreign narcotics trafficker under the Kingpin Act in May 2008 for its 20-year history of using its European network to produce, transport, and traffic opiates and cannabis. On October 14, 2009 and April 20, 2011, Treasury designated a total of eight PKK leaders pursuant to the Kingpin Act. Drug trafficking is one of the PKK’s most lucrative criminal activities and it uses the illicit proceeds to obtain weapons and materials. The State Department designated the PKK as a Foreign Terrorist Organization in 1997, and as a Specially Designated Global Terrorist in 2001 pursuant to Executive Order 13224.

Source: Treasury Sanctions Supporters of the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) Tied to Drug Trafficking in Europe




Australian National Security:

Funding and recruitment

The PKK derives most of its financial resources from drug trafficking, which is reported to generate hundreds of millions of US dollars for the group. At different times, the PKK is assessed to have controlled up to 80 per cent of the European illicit drug market.

In January 2012, under the US State Department’s Foreign Narcotics Kingpin Designation Act, the US Department of Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control designated three Moldavia-based individuals as Specially Designated Narcotics Traffickers for acting for or on behalf of the PKK. One individual was identified as a high-ranking PKK member.

The PKK also generates income through extortion, illegal immigration, human trafficking, money laundering and prostitution rackets. Revenue is also raised by collecting ‘taxes’, through voluntary means or coercion, from Kurdish diaspora communities around the world. PKK-related criminal activity is especially prevalent in Europe. The European Police Office warned in its European Union Terrorism Situation and Trend Report 2012 that the PKK remains committed to using Europe as a logistical support base for funding, as well as for recruitment, training and propaganda. Funds are also raised through publication sales, grants, aid campaigns and fundraising activities organised by PKK branches in Europe.​

Source: Australian National Security - Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK)




Huffington Post:

A 2007 cable from the U.S. Embassy in Ankara, released by the secret-spilling Wikileaks website, shows that U.S. officials had identified Cansiz as one of the outlawed PKK's top two "most notorious financiers" in Europe and wanted her captured to stop the flow of money to the rebels.
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The Wikileaks cable suggests that Cansiz and another PKK member, identified as Riza Altun, were the PKK's key financiers in Europe, helping to funnel "upward of US$50-100 million annually" to the organization. The PKK is considered a terrorist organization by Turkey and its allies, including the United States.

"We must redouble our efforts to shut down the financial flows from Europe into PKK headquarters" in northern Iraq, the cable reads. "We need to narrow our focus by identifying and going after the two top targets of Riza Altun and Sakine Cansiz."

The cable suggests that the PKK raises money in Europe through fundraising and business activities as well as drugs, smuggling and extortion.

Source: Sakine Cansiz Murdered: PKK Founder's Execution Highlights Women's Role In Kurdish Insurgency




The European Strategist:

Turkey is one such country; with its unique geographical location at the center of the drug smuggling crossroads, it has been one of the most negatively affected countries by drug trafficking in Eurasia. It has been a transit country, where drug trafficking has provided a breeding ground for other organized crime activities and a financial relief for Kurdish terrorist organization Partiya Karkeren Kurdistan (PKK) for years. These harsh realities necessitated Turkey to take concrete steps to fight against drug trafficking at the national, regional, and international levels and embrace a cooperative, multi-faceted, and decisive approach. The following sections contain detailed information regarding the major trafficking routes affecting Turkey, drug trafficking-PKK terrorism nexus, and Turkey’s domestic and international efforts against drug trafficking with particular emphasis on the aspect of intelligence sharing.​

Source: Drug Trafficking and Countermeasures in Turkey: A General Assessment


Be sure to tell if you hunger for more, I've enough to feed everyone sharing the same cave as you.

Yeah. Lets blame everything on PKK. AKP even blamed PKK for Roboski massacre when it had just happened. Biggest joke in the world.

You can not be a Muslim and support AKP at same time. That is very clear.

Who are you to judge who can and who can't be a Muslim? Get your feet on the ground and cut down on the cocaine.

Nope. Thank God I am not. They have been witch hunting Kurds for a lot of years now. They do arbitrary arrests of Kurds supporting PKK all the time. Even though their own intelligence service says that PKK only does political work in Germany.

But I speak, write and read German to some degree.

Nice ''arguements''... Haha! Is this what they decieve you to believe in? Man is it easy to fool you?

Germany recognizes PKK as a terrorist organisation. Thus, whatever is affiliated with PKK's activities are illegal on German soil. Political, financial and what not. That's the reason they are pinning the dogs down.

 

[madmusti]

pkk nin ne bok oldugunu herkes biliyor kivirmaya gerek yok.

everyone now what pkk is, supportet by europe mostly from germany againts turkey.

You forgot USA,France & England.

@Keyxusraw

You are from ? You are ?=

 

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@Keyxusraw

This looks like you managed to find one source that doesn't mention PKK, which I want to draw your attention to not mention, it is not the same meaning as denying.

 

[olcayto]

İ bet he didn't expect so many sources to counter his statement.

O bu değil de AKP'liyim diye birde allahsız oldum

 

[what]

I have met Kurds that support those terrorists but never have I met one that doubted that they're earning their money with drugs.

 

[Keyxusraw]

Listen I know that there are a lot of anti PKK countries including in Europe. Fact remains, there is no real evidence that PKK is involved in drugs. None of your sources ( and trust me, I have studied most of them. Try to dig into their initial sources and from where they get their evidene. You will notice most of it is Turkish and American sources) indicate anything that PKK is directly involved in drug trafficking. The soures I bring to you is from the national intelligence service of Germany which is a very professional source. And mind you, Germany is probably the most anti PKK country in Europe with massive arbitrary arrests of PKK members. Even European high court some years ago could not bring evidence that PKK was involved in drugs.

I believe that more countries will follow in the footsteps of German intelligence service soon to come. Countries can not go on forever managing to label a freedom organisation like PKK and labelling them drug dealers.

Bring me pictures with PKK members being in direct contact with drugs. Bring me footages. Bring me videos. If it is so easy to label them drug dealers at any given time and occassion, it should be no problem for you to find some pictures and footages of PKK members ( real PKK members. Not kontragerilla or MIT and JITEM dressed as guerilla) involved in drug trafficking. Until none of you can bring that to the table, I put my trust in one of the most professional intelligence services in the world.

By the way, let us not forget that Turkey was and still is directly involved in drug trafficking themselves via JITEM, MIT and Gulen movement. I can bring you evidence of that too but I am sure most of you know about it very well. The wolf a lot of you have as your display, symbolizes the Grey Wolves or the Young Turks right? Grey Wolves themselves were involved in mafia drug trafficking. So I understand that the lots of you want to put the blame on PKK. No wonder.

By the way, the sources Baykus presented ( and in which the lots of you are creaming your pants haha, I guess he was the only one man enough to counter me) presents incidents with mafia related persons economically aiding PKK via drug sales. For example Cerkez Baykulut was NEVER a member of PKK. He never went to the mountains and he never once visited a PKK cultural activity. He was simply a mafia drug dealer who had sympathy for PKK. But again, this does not mean PKK has been involved in drugs. This is the distinction the lots of you are unable to make.

 

[Keyxusraw]

Here is a Wikileak between Ankara and Washington exactly on the matters of Riza Altun and Sakine Cansiz. Not once has anyone who is from the PKK's many branches been imprisoned for drug trafficking in Europe. Which is really weird when you all are agreeing that PKK is so deeply involved in drug trafficking.Fundraising is and that is where PKK gets their money.

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[olcayto]

Mate wtf are you talking about.

I posted sources from the

United Nations
Europol
Interpol

Believe whatever you want mate. If you think you know better then let's say Europol, you can be my guest.
We will remain stupid and ignorant by believing Europol.

 

[olcayto]

Here is a Wikileak between Ankara and Washington exactly on the matters of Riza Altun and Sakine Cansiz. Not once has anyone who is from the PKK's many branches been imprisoned for drug trafficking in Europe. Which is really weird when you all are agreeing that PKK is so deeply involved in drug trafficking.Fundraising is and that is where PKK gets their money.

Cable Viewer

Read it better it clearly states that fund raising is done through drug trafficking.
Haha, busted by your own source.

Thanks for sharing though.

 

[Keyxusraw]

Bring me one picture from Europol, Interpol or United Nations ( wtf?) with PKK members (that we can confirm are PKK members and not just someone supporting PKK) being in contact with drugs or drugs trafficking. These big bad guys must surely have one picture or one video? I swear to God, I will stop supporting PKK from this second of and start supporting Kerdogan.

Just one picture. Just one video. Convince me.

Read it better it clearly states that fund raising is done through drug trafficking.
Haha, busted by your own source.

Thanks for sharing though.

That was not my point. It clearly says that you can get persecuted when you deal with drugs. So, how come neither Riza Altun nor Sakine Cansiz has never once been caught. Funny huh?

 

[olcayto]

Bring me one picture from Europol, Interpol or United Nations ( wtf?) with PKK members (that we can confirm are PKK members and not just someone supporting PKK) being in contact with drugs or drugs trafficking. I swear to God, I will stop supporting PKK from this second of and start supporting Kerdogan.

Just one picture. Just one video. Convince me.



That was not my point. It clearly says that you can get persecuted when you deal with drugs. So, how come neither Riza Altun nor Sakine Cansiz has never once been caught. Funny huh?

İf you can find one mafia boss who sells drugs directly to a customer it would be really nice

The top of criminal organizations never gets their hands directly dirty on drugs. Have you never watched any documentary about drugs lords?

You can usually only catch or accuse them with testomony's of other people.


Coming back to the point. Why would europol , interpol or u.n lie about this matter ?

Why would usa confirm this drug traficking in a communication between Turkey , which is supposed to be top secret and never to be read by any other party?

Why would they keep talking about drug trafficking with each other in the wikileaks letter when they "supposedly" know that pkk is not drug trafficking ?

 

[Keyxusraw]

Nice strawmen. For example, we know Taleban, Grey Wolves and FARC all have a direct hand in drug trafficking. How? Because some of them openly admit it and others there are really good picture and video evidence ( Grey Wolves case). We have the paramilitaries in Columbia whom there are a lot of picture and video evidence. We have numerous of African groups who in the middle of a civil war dealth heavily with drugs. A lot of pictures and videos were found. If PKK really is an organisation that deals with drugs at any level, it would be possible to find info on them at a civil level. But there is yet to be found one PKK member guilty of drug smuggling, drug trafficking or even drug production. No picture, no video. No evidence.

I mean surely if these big bad guys as Europol are so certain that PKK is involved with drugs, they would at the very least have some real evidence. I think the German Intelligence Service finally realised how ridicilous it is to accuse PKK of dealing with drugs when there is no evidence at all.

Keep living in a dream guys.

 

[olcayto]

Mağdurum da mağdurum mentality

Mate believe whatever you want

İ don't want to be the one who bursts your fantasy bubble.
Keep on living how your heart desires.

 

[Keyxusraw]

You have no arguements left. You took the easy way and believed in everything Europol and the US stated. But when you dig deeper down into where they get their information ( the real sources) you will quickly realise that they are close to non existant. There is NO EVIDENCE. Go and research the terror files of Taleban, Al Qaeda and PKK from the European Union archives. You will quickly realise that while there are tons of evidence indicating that the former two act in accordance to the word terror while PKK there is no evidence. That is also why the European court of first instance did not back the terror labelling of PKK. There was simply no reason to. No evidence to label them as such.

BBC NEWS | Europe | EU court annuls PKK terror ruling

EUobserver.com / Justice & Home Affairs / Court annuls decision to put PKK on EU terror list

 

[Bismarck]

Die Entführer der deutschen Bergsteiger Sie kassieren jährlich 800 Millionen mit Drogen und Erpressung
PKK-Sprecher macht Hoffnungen auf schnelle Freilassung zunichte

14.07.2008 - 17:41 Uhr

Mit der Entführung von drei deutschen Bergsteigern in der Türkei rückt eine Terrorgruppe wieder in den Blickpunkt: die PKK. Was steckt hinter der militanten Kurden-Organisation?
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Das Grausame: Sie jubeln, während sich die deutschen Bergsteiger immer noch als Geiseln in der Gewalt der PKK-Aktivisten befinden! Die PKK-Spitze distanziert sich zwar von der Geiselnahme, sagt, sie sei von einer lokalen Gruppe ohne Absprache erfolgt! Doch: Gleichzeitig stellt sie an die Bundesregierung Bedingungen.

Ein Sprecher der PKK machte inzwischen Hoffnungen auf eine schnelle Freilassung zunichte. Die Geiseln würden erst freigelassen, wenn ein „friedliches Klima“ geschaffen werde, so PKK-Sprecher Ahmed Deniz.

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