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Indian Defence News
Sunday, November 13, 2016
By: The Hindu

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India’s bid for a permanent seat in a reformed United Nations Security Council (UNSC) has received a strong support from many member states of the world body, including the United Kingdom and France, which emphasised that the U.N.’s top unit must reflect the emergence of new global powers.

More than 50 speakers shared their suggestions, perspectives and concerns over reform of the 15-nation UNSC during a General Assembly session here last week.


Ditto with Brazil, Germany, Japan ::

“Many favoured bolstering representation for such emerging powers as Brazil, Germany, India and Japan. While some spotlighted the progress made in recent years through the intergovernmental negotiations on Security Council reform process, others voiced deep frustration that more had not yet been achieved,” a summary of the November 7 meeting posted on the U.N. website said.

Among the large number of nations supporting a permanent seat for India and other emerging powers like Brazil and Germany were two veto-wielding permanent members of the Council — the United Kingdom and France.

U.K.’s Permanent Representative to the U.N. Ambassador Matthew Rycroft said at the session that Britain believed in a modest expansion in the permanent and non-permanent categories. The increase in membership should be such that it balanced representation with effectiveness.

Mr. Rycroft reiterated his country’s support for permanent seats for Brazil, Germany, India and Japan, alongside permanent African representation.


May discussed it with Modi ::

Referring to British Prime Minister Theresa May’s visit to India last week, her first bilateral trip outside Europe since taking office, Mr. Rycroft said she discussed “that very issue with Prime Minister Narendra Modi.”

“Our support is steadfast, and I look forward to working through all available avenues to reach the more representative and more effective Council that we seek,” he said.

France’s Deputy Permanent Representative Alexis Lamek said his country wished to see the Council reflect the emergence of new world powers, for which it supported the candidacies of Germany, Brazil, India and Japan and the increased representation of African countries in both the permanent and non-permanent membership.


‘No veto for mass atrocities’ ::

The five permanent members should also refrain from using the veto in cases of mass atrocities, a commitment that France had already made, Mr. Lamek said.

German ambassador to the U.N. Harald Braun, speaking on behalf of the G4 Group of Brazil, India, Japan and Germany, said Council reform was an urgent matter, saying the Council must be rendered fit-for-purpose in order to face the current global challenges of peace and security. He added that all regions must be adequately represented to ensure legitimacy and effectiveness.


Akbaruddin slams Council ::

During the session, India’s Ambassador to the U.N. Syed Akbaruddin, in a stinging criticism of the Security Council, had said that the 15-nation body is “stuck in its own time warp and politics.”

He had also lamented the “never-ending carousel of discussions” on UNSC reforms saying “it is time to break the impasse” to urgently reform the U.N. body that “is unresponsive” to the current global situation.
 
Still its a distant dream and west is using it as a carrot for us. We are prematurely projecting ourselves for such big goodies.
Lets work more on our economy and people being at par with the social structure.
 
No way this would ever happen, India is not even a superpower, and they have a massive territorial dispute with Pakistan, which they refuse to negotiate.

Also the UK is obviously desperate for money post-brexit, so they'll stroke that Indian ego if it means some billionaire will set up a manufacturing plant over here.
 
India is violating the Human Rights in Indian Occupied Kashmir using Pellet Gun also refusing the UN declaration to solve the Kashmir Issue.
 
This isn't going to happen. The Veto Members will not nor should be expanded.

Best thing to hope or work for is limiting the power of the Veto Members, more than 1 veto required to stop UN Proposals. And/or overruling vetoed Proposals by 2 or more Permanent Members by the UN General Assembly.
 
India should have Veto the Climate deal etc ... then do the hard barging.....

No way this would ever happen, India is not even a superpower, and they have a massive territorial dispute with Pakistan, which they refuse to negotiate.

Also the UK is obviously desperate for money post-brexit, so they'll stroke that Indian ego if it means some billionaire will set up a manufacturing plant over here.
so what China also has dispute area every country and India has a power , u like it or not, India can veto Many deals like Climate deal........

India is violating the Human Rights in Indian Occupied Kashmir using Pellet Gun also refusing the UN declaration to solve the Kashmir Issue.
lol , china violating its own national not to mention PAK
 
Indian economic GDP might will over take France next year and the UK in 2018...

by 2025 INDIAN GDP will be double the size of UK and France & Larger than Germany .

India will be the largest trading partners of the EU bar China and USA in the world.

YOU SIMPLY CANNOT IGNORE THESE FACTS and the influence and importance of india.

TO rest of the world the KASHMIR dispute is a local issue which even todays Pakistanis failed to realise.

ALL THIS MEANS INDIA ENTRY IN PERMANENT SEAT IN UN SECURITY COUNCIL is a matter of WHEN not IF
 
No way this would ever happen, India is not even a superpower, and they have a massive territorial dispute with Pakistan, which they refuse to negotiate.

Who gives two hoot to it ? Will the world stop them just because of it ? Are we that important ?
 
No way this would ever happen, India is not even a superpower, and they have a massive territorial dispute with Pakistan, which they refuse to negotiate.

Also the UK is obviously desperate for money post-brexit, so they'll stroke that Indian ego if it means some billionaire will set up a manufacturing plant over here.

pakistan is a nonfactor when it comes to international diplomacy.
 
Who gives two hoot to it ? Will the world stop them just because of it ? Are we that important ?


No but you really think a country would be given a permanent seat to dictate the entire world, when they cant even solve domestic problems

India should have Veto the Climate deal etc ... then do the hard barging.....


so what China also has dispute area every country and India has a power , u like it or not, India can veto Many deals like Climate deal........


lol , china violating its own national not to mention PAK

Chinese territorial disputes are petty compared to Kashmir, which has resulted in several wars and killed thousands and thousands of people.

India now uses its veto powers on whatever comittees it is temporarily assigned to just to get back at Pakistan, why would they be trusted with a permanent security council seat?

how about you try and get into NSG first and we'll see where it goes from there.

pakistan is a nonfactor when it comes to international diplomacy.

keep the butthurt flowing, you will never get your precious seat.
 
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keep the butthurt flowing, you will never get your precious seat.

True. But not because of Pakistan. Every P5 members are operating in conflict or war zone, have territorial disputes etc. No one gives a shit. People with power, kill those with lesser power.

India wont get the seat because P5 does want their veto to be diluted. simple as that.
 
It is not about UN seat, it is about NSG ? How is it related to their domestic issues ?

This is about a permanent UNSC seat....

True. But not because of Pakistan. Every P5 members are operating in conflict or war zone, have territorial disputes etc. No one gives a shit. People with power, kill those with lesser power.

India wont get the seat because P5 does want their veto to be diluted. simple as that.


So India has no power? Ok, this all makes sense then.
 

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