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Mamata suggests Dhaka to forget Teesta water

Faruque Ahmed

The much hyped official visit of Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina to Delhi is under increased focus on what it has achieved from the perspective of Bangladesh national interest. India has got its shopping list of 22 deals including four MoUs for defence cooperation, besides inking several deals on big power projects, regional connectivity, education, science and health sectors etcetera.
But what appears to be the biggest setback is Dhaka’s failure to secure the Teesta water sharing agreement as Ms Mamata Benarjee foiled it for the third time now although there was evidently no lack of goodwill from the Indian central government to end the impasse.
Rather her new proposal this time to Dhaka to work to use water from five common rivers instead of Teesta water seems to be highly deceptive to shift the focus to new areas.
We have now the last hope to Narendra Modi’s assurance that Dhaka will
get Teesta water during the tenure of Sheikh Haasina government although it is an open ended assurance. But let us believe it. There is no way out also.
As Mamata said Teesta has no water to spare for Bangladesh blocking the deal, Modi has said now he is sending a team of experts to Bhutan to see the water reserves at the upstream of Teesta which originates from the Himalayas. He seems to be sincere in his attempt to resolve the crisis.

Mamata’s damaging role
Prime Minister Nerandra Modi tried to convince Bengal Chief Minister Ms Mamata Benarjee to sign the deal like his former predecessor Dr Manmohon Singh. He too, was ready to sign the Teesta agreement during his 2011 visit to Dhaka. But Ms Mamata at the last minute in a surprise move abandoned her visit to Dhaka with Dr Singh aborting the attempt to settle the deal.
During Mr Modi’s visit to Dhaka in 2015 Mamata carefully avoided to accompany him and avoided signing the Teesta deal. For all practical purposes it appears that she had played an unethical game with Bangladesh people when she paid a visit to Dhaka on February 20, 2015 to convey her “love” for the people here.
On that occasion she had told the people to ‘keep faith in her’ to resolve the long standing Teesta issue. She made the assurance with some convincing words: “Please keep faith in me” and “Don’t’ worry about it.” But Ms Mamata now says Bangladesh should agree to use water of five common rivers instead of Teesta water.
At a meeting with Hasina last Saturday in Delhi, she remained unmoved, ignoring the previous pledge as the Bangladesh PM apparently tried to persuade her to agree to the Teesta water-sharing deal.
The Bengal chief minister brushed aside any prospect of a Teesta deal in the near future saying there was no water in the Teesta River. It was an outright embarrassment for the Bangladesh prime minister to swallow repeated failures to bring Teesta water and face serious misgivings from Bangladesh people for providing so many sensitive concessions to India in the last several years without getting anything tangible in return. This is a serious setback for her.

Hilsa diplomacy failed
The Prime Minister reportedly cooked herself steamed Hilsha for Indian leaders at Rastrapati Bhaavan and Ms Mamata Benarjee was among others to taste the dish. Even she promised Mamata to cook for her when she will visit Dhaka. Some say it was part of her Hilsha diplomacy, but others pointed out that the Prime Minister has honestly tried to win the confidence of the Indian leaders as being one of their close friends breaking the protocol. But it did not work.
Critics pointed out that our government at times sidetracked public sentiments in making concessions to India considering close friendship with Delhi for helping in our liberation war. But her gestures ended up in a one-way traffic without similar response from the other side.
But Mr. Modi who is running the world’s largest democratic country, has opted to avoid, like his predecessor Dr Monmahan Singh, to use the constitutional power enjoyed by the Indian central government to decide over the issues concerning cross boundary rivers.
Perhaps our polite negotiators did not raise this legal point which they perhaps thought may embarrass the friendly host government. However, that did not prevent Bengal government’s Mamata Banerjee to effectively play politics with the Indian central government as well as Bangladesh and having the last laugh.
But skeptics in Dhaka also tend to believe that it was part of a total game plan hatched by the Indian establishments that since Dhaka refused to sign the defence pact on dotted line, it used the West Bengal CM pulling the string.

The agreements signed
Prime Minister’s visit to India became highly controversial as the reports from New Delhi attempted to mainly focus on the signing of defence deals with India. This naturally, raised eye brows from many quarters in Bangladesh about the need of such deals. They believe that defence is an inclusive and secretive matter of a country, its sharing will only destroy the effectiveness of our armed services.
Media report said MoUs on defence cooperation framework between the two countries, enhancing cooperation in the field of strategic and operational studies between defence services command and staff college, Mirpur, and defence services staff college, in Tamil Nadu were signed. Besides, agreements on increased cooperation in the field of national security, development and strategic studies between national defence college, Dhaka and National defence college, New Delhi, cooperation in peaceful uses of outer space and co-operation in the field of information technology and electronics were also inked.
Other deals include cooperation in peaceful uses of nuclear energy between the two countries; exchange of technical information and co-operation in the regulation of nuclear safety and radiation protection; cooperation regarding nuclear power plant projects in Bangladesh between Bangladesh Atomic Energy Commission (BAEC) and Global Centre for Nuclear Energy Partnership (GCNEP) and audio-visual co-production between the governments of Bangladesh and India.
Agreements on the regulation of motor vehicle passenger traffic (Khulna-Kolkata route) and SOP of the agreement between Bangladesh and India and construction of 36 community clinics in Bangladesh, cooperation in the area of cyber security; establishing border haats, bilateral judicial sector cooperation, training and capacity building program for Bangladeshi judicial officers, cooperation on aids to sea line navigation were signed.
In addition MoUs were signed on mutual scientific cooperation in the field of earth sciences for research and development, MoUs & SOPs on passenger and cruise services on the coastal and protocol route, development of fairway from Sirajganj to Daikhowa and Ashuganj to Zakiganj, cooperation in the field of mass media, extending defence LOC” (line of credit) of $500 million and extending a third line of credit (LoC)” by India to Bangladesh.
 
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Okay let us assume for a minute that the Teesta issue is settled to the satisfaction of Bangladesh. What happens then? Will BD stop flirting with China?

I ask this because I genuinely do not understand whether Bangladesh is taking care of its interests through increasing ties with China or just sending a message?
 
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No way becuase of India.
China is needed to supply BD its much needed cheap quality products which India cant.
BD also has potential to increase export to China than India, also China may relocate its sunset industries to BD which is not possible in case of India.
China will invest hefty amount in BD's economy and infrastructures, India is no where close to that.



On the contrary what message is India sending to BD by diverting its waters during needed time and flooding BD, when it doesnt need any water? After 10-20 years causing massive damage to life and property not even making proper a deal, where it should compensate BD for time being.
You know, BD is a highly ambitious country. You cant just judge it by its sheer geographical size. While all its ambitions are slowed down by a massive stone age country from all sides.

I am very happy for your ambitions. Everyone should have some. However, since you claim that BD flirting with China is inevitable, it will be tough to convince Indian government to compromise on the water issue. India is facing water scarcity of its own and why would the government take the political risk when there is nothing to gain strategically?

In other words, if you expect something for free, then ask politely.
 
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These are not free. India as a nation is bound to follow the international guidelines to share the rivers cross each nations. It gives a clue why India cant be granted permanent status in UN because it acts nonchalantly regarding its neighbours

By international guidelines I assume you are referring to the Helsinki Rules on International Rivers. India has accepted BD as lower riparian state as per rules. The only dispute is that India claims 55 percent and BD claims 50 percent.

As for UNSC membership is concerned, don't you think you are giving way too much importance to a bilateral issue between India-BD? Are you really that ill-informed or are you naive to think that has any bearing on UNSC seat?

This water blackmailing has its ends, will be taken care by natural course of actions. Its stupid to relate two irrelevent issues. ie water with China

It's not blackmail. And if this is then so is making defence deals with India's strategic rival. Learn some rules of fairness and reciprocity.

Use sea water or use cloud seeding ways

Will you pay for it? And why doesn't BD do itself? If it is so feasible.

Strategically international clean image. And assurance of friendly neighbourhood

Clean image by inking a water sharing agreement? Not really.

However, the last point is relevant - how is BD going to give this "assurance" of friendly relations? Once the water treaty is signed, we are bound by it. If BD then decides to play more footsie with China, there is nothing we could do about it at that stage.

Maybe an explicit agreement that while BD will solicit Chinese investment and trade in everything else, it will not engage with China in any strategic or defence deals?

No free lunches for anyone. Win-win for both.
 
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Okay let us assume for a minute that the Teesta issue is settled to the satisfaction of Bangladesh. What happens then? Will BD stop flirting with China?

I ask this because I genuinely do not understand whether Bangladesh is taking care of its interests through increasing ties with China or just sending a message?
What Teesta issue has to do with China?


And Bangladesh is taking care of its interest by increasing ties with China. Good relation with China is worth a thousand Teesta. I wish Indians would understand this already that Bangladesh is not dependant on India.
 
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Okay let us assume for a minute that the Teesta issue is settled to the satisfaction of Bangladesh. What happens then? Will BD stop flirting with China?

I ask this because I genuinely do not understand whether Bangladesh is taking care of its interests through increasing ties with China or just sending a message?
Will you stop flirting Israel and America, RSS according to BDs wish
 
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This water blackmail will only stop when China itself dams the rivers upstream in their source in Tibet. We should focus on that and side with China - rather than begging for handouts, like we have been, for the last four decades.

Time for these games is over. Playing nicety-nice never got anyone anything. :-)
 
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This water blackmail will only stop when China itself dams the rivers upstream in their source in Tibet. We should focus on that and side with China - rather than begging for handouts, like we have been, for the last four decades.

Time for these games is over. Playing nicety-nice never got anyone anything. :-)
The more China will dam, the more India will dam and we will transfer the liability of the issue on China.
Only solution for Bangladesh is to break any strategic tie with China and make India happy.
Convincing Mamata is not so easy task for Bangladesh, even Modi fails here.
 
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What I said done is done. Teesta won't be solved unless we go to international court or go nuts like Pakistan to wage a war for results (which is unlikely)

We should forget the water and tell her to forget the fish and all the benefit her state gets from bd. Problem solved.
 
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Not really. India claims 65%
Two thirds of Teesta river area is in BD. So actually BD should get 65%

From source to mouth, the Teesta is approximately 414 kilometres, of which 150-odd are in Sikkim, 123 in West Bengal, and the remaining 140 or so, in Bangladesh.

I don't know how you got that 65 percent figure. This is a classic case of propaganda. I now know how India is being defamed through lies. India is bargaining for 55 percent only.

Actually these bilateral issues are important as it will lead to solve other bilateral issues in the neighbourhoods. If India cant solve issues with relatively friendly BD then never will be to its hostile maximum neighbourhoods.

Fair enough. But it has got nothing to do with UNSC. China has several times the problem with its neighbors. Doesn't affect anything for them.

Yeah BD supports India in International and regional forums. Adding úp to India's little support base.

Don't all lovers support each other?!:lol:

Without China BD has little option in this case. India will have to cooperate whatever China has to offer to BD. Unless the pressure comes from US, EU, Japan etc no way to stop, ie what we seen in Sonadia port

And this is the crux of the matter. Today port, tomorrow Gwadar Part II, day after that Naval Base. If you feel free to do as you please being a sovereign nation, so does India. If you cannot accommodate such a simple request, neither should India. Rules of reciprocity.

What Teesta issue has to do with China?


And Bangladesh is taking care of its interest by increasing ties with China. Good relation with China is worth a thousand Teesta. I wish Indians would understand this already that Bangladesh is not dependant on India.

International relations are a give and take. Take water and give security in return. China is India's trade and business partner as well. Nothing wrong in doing trade and business with them. But defence deals and strategic assets like port development are another issue. China has several territorial disputes with India and in case of a conflict it matters greatly whether or not they have a military presence in BD.

If good relations with China are worth a thousand Teesta then why do BD members insist that Indo-BD relations are hostage to the water issue? If it is such a minor issue then is it worth spoiling relations with your immediate neighbor? At least be consistent.

Will you stop flirting Israel and America, RSS according to BDs wish

Do you have territorial disputes with Israel and US? And is RSS any of BD's concern? You equate these issues with Indo-China potential for military conflict? Do you have comprehension issues or sanity issues?

This water blackmail will only stop when China itself dams the rivers upstream in their source in Tibet. We should focus on that and side with China - rather than begging for handouts, like we have been, for the last four decades.

Time for these games is over. Playing nicety-nice never got anyone anything. :-)

Best of luck with that approach. Decades later, when BD is being Balkanized and is a proxy playground for Indo-China conflict, you will realize. India and China will never fight a war directly again. However, anyone who gets involved will beat the consequences. More terror attacks, less breathing space for secularists, and eventually Talibanization of BD.
 
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From source to mouth, the Teesta is approximately 414 kilometres, of which 150-odd are in Sikkim, 123 in West Bengal, and the remaining 140 or so, in Bangladesh.

I don't know how you got that 65 percent figure. This is a classic case of propaganda. I now know how India is being defamed through lies. India is bargaining for 55 percent only.



Fair enough. But it has got nothing to do with UNSC. China has several times the problem with its neighbors. Doesn't affect anything for them.



Don't all lovers support each other?!:lol:



And this is the crux of the matter. Today port, tomorrow Gwadar Part II, day after that Naval Base. If you feel free to do as you please being a sovereign nation, so does India. If you cannot accommodate such a simple request, neither should India. Rules of reciprocity.



International relations are a give and take. Take water and give security in return. China is India's trade and business partner as well. Nothing wrong in doing trade and business with them. But defence deals and strategic assets like port development are another issue. China has several territorial disputes with India and in case of a conflict it matters greatly whether or not they have a military presence in BD.

If good relations with China are worth a thousand Teesta then why do BD members insist that Indo-BD relations are hostage to the water issue? If it is such a minor issue then is it worth spoiling relations with your immediate neighbor? At least be consistent.



Do you have territorial disputes with Israel and US? And is RSS any of BD's concern? You equate these issues with Indo-China potential for military conflict? Do you have comprehension issues or sanity issues?



Best of luck with that approach. Decades later, when BD is being Balkanized and is a proxy playground for Indo-China conflict, you will realize. India and China will never fight a war directly again. However, anyone who gets involved will beat the consequences. More terror attacks, less breathing space for secularists, and eventually Talibanization of BD.
You are generously explaining while it's not needed. Half of people here are false flagger and other half Jamatis.

Majority of Bangladeshi people are minority of minority here.
 
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You are generously explaining while it's not needed. Half of people here are false flagger and other half Jamatis.

Majority of Bangladeshi people are minority of minority here.

The suspicion of being Jamaatis is always there. Especially when irrational hatred towards India is shown. But there are good BD members on PDF as well. And allowing those who distort facts to control the narrative is not on.

Ironically, these Jamaatis who are railing against India right now will have the most issues with increased Chinese presence in BD. Those who are blowing up Chinese workers in Pakistan are their ideological brothers. That's the thing about irrational hatred.
 
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The suspicion of being Jamaatis is always there. Especially when irrational hatred towards India is shown. But there are good BD members on PDF as well. And allowing those who distort facts to control the narrative is not on.

Ironically, these Jamaatis who are railing against India right now will have the most issues with increased Chinese presence in BD. Those who are blowing up Chinese workers in Pakistan are their ideological brothers. That's the thing about irrational hatred.
They need the hatred to sustain relevant if not India then USA/Israel/Russia/Iran/China/etc. List goes on fact of the matter is if nothing more then they can even hate the animal to stay relevant , Oh never mind they already hate cows!!!
 
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From source to mouth, the Teesta is approximately 414 kilometres, of which 150-odd are in Sikkim, 123 in West Bengal, and the remaining 140 or so, in Bangladesh.

I don't know how you got that 65 percent figure. This is a classic case of propaganda. I now know how India is being defamed through lies. India is bargaining for 55 percent only.



Fair enough. But it has got nothing to do with UNSC. China has several times the problem with its neighbors. Doesn't affect anything for them.



Don't all lovers support each other?!:lol:



And this is the crux of the matter. Today port, tomorrow Gwadar Part II, day after that Naval Base. If you feel free to do as you please being a sovereign nation, so does India. If you cannot accommodate such a simple request, neither should India. Rules of reciprocity.



International relations are a give and take. Take water and give security in return. China is India's trade and business partner as well. Nothing wrong in doing trade and business with them. But defence deals and strategic assets like port development are another issue. China has several territorial disputes with India and in case of a conflict it matters greatly whether or not they have a military presence in BD.

If good relations with China are worth a thousand Teesta then why do BD members insist that Indo-BD relations are hostage to the water issue? If it is such a minor issue then is it worth spoiling relations with your immediate neighbor? At least be consistent.



Do you have territorial disputes with Israel and US? And is RSS any of BD's concern? You equate these issues with Indo-China potential for military conflict? Do you have comprehension issues or sanity issues?



Best of luck with that approach. Decades later, when BD is being Balkanized and is a proxy playground for Indo-China conflict, you will realize. India and China will never fight a war directly again. However, anyone who gets involved will beat the consequences. More terror attacks, less breathing space for secularists, and eventually Talibanization of BD.
According to your calculation ganga ends in india as it enters bd through padma channel.
 
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