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Malaysia in talks with Pakistan, others to barter arms with palm oil

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Malaysia hopes to pay for military equipment with palm oil

Joseph Sipalan

AUGUST 26, 2019

KUALA LUMPUR (Reuters) - Malaysia is in talks with at last six countries on the possibility of using palm oil to pay for arms, as Southeast Asia’s third-biggest economy seeks to replace old equipment to boost its defense capabilities.

Malaysia has struggled to update its defense equipment over the years and a cut in its defense budget this year all but derailed efforts to replace navy ships, some of which have been in service for 35 years or more.

Costs have been a big hurdle but using palm oil to help pay for equipment could open new avenues to upgrade, Defence Minister Mohamad Sabu said on Monday.

Mohamad said discussions on paying with palm oil had started with China, Russia, India, Pakistan, Turkey and Iran.

“If they are prepared to accept a palm barter trade, we are very willing to go in that direction,” Mohamad told Reuters in an interview.

“We have a lot of palm oil.”

Malaysia and Indonesia, the world’s two largest palm oil producers, are embroiled in a dispute with the European Union over a plan to phase out the commodity from renewable fuels used by the bloc by 2030 over deforestation concerns.

The two countries supply about 85% of global palm oil, much of which is used in food but also in items such as lipstick and soap.

DEFENSE REVAMP

The planned barter is part of a 10-year defense policy to be tabled in parliament this year, which Mohamad said would focus on boosting naval capabilities, including in the disputed South China Sea.

China claims historic jurisdiction over the sea via a so-called nine-dash line on maps, but it overlaps with territory claimed by Malaysia, China, Vietnam, Brunei and the Philippines.

Taiwan also claims most of the sea.

Recent Chinese naval deployments in the disputed sea, through which over $3.4 trillion in goods are transported annually, have reignited tension with Vietnam and the Philippines.

Malaysia had been critical of China’s South China Sea position, but has not been excessively outspoken recently, especially after China pumped in billions of dollars into infrastructure projects under its Belt and Road Initiative.

Malaysia regularly tracked Chinese naval and coastguard vessels entering Malaysia’s territorial waters, Mohamad said, but added that China respects Malaysia and had “not done anything that caused us trouble, so far”.

However, Southeast Asian counties would need to work together to make sure their interests are not drowned out by big powers like the U.S. and China jostling for control, Mohamad said.

“We want this region to remain peaceful and neutral,” Mohamad said.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ilitary-equipment-with-palm-oil-idUSKCN1VG12Q
 
About the poll:

I have listed the six countries that Malaysia has discussions with regarding payment with palm oil for military equipment.
You can choose your country if and only if you would accept palm oil as payment for military equipment.
If not, you can choose the option listed below Iran.
If you do not belong to one of the six countries, you can choose from the last two options.
 
It depends on the needs of the countries. Thing is that physical assets like these are difficult and take time to sell, so you don't per say get an instant injection of foreign capital.

If Pakistan has a need for palm oil, for internal industries, like for example if Pakistan was planning on importing it anyways with foreign capital, then this is a very good trade because in such deals, usually the physical commodity value outdoes the value of the product you are selling significantly (to make up for the fact that you're not getting money).

But depends, even if Pakistan does not need it, is there any way Pakistan can use it for internal industry or for export to specific countries (more commodity, more secondary product, more and easier valuable exports), what will be the expected outcome. That is something the Finance Ministry needs to look into.

On a side note, what kind of industries rely on this commodity significantly, can Pakistan Industry really get a lot of good out of it?

EDIT: All-in-all, as stupid as it sounds, it isn't. Pakistan should consider it. For a product worth $30 million, you will likely get $40 million worth of commodity and that is a lot. If that can be used to boost a sector of the internal industry (if one exists in Pakistan that could use it), it can be good - more jobs, more profit, more exports.
 
Barter trade... that would significantly reduce the relevance of the American dollar, and weaken their economic and political clout, in addition to 'saving' valuable dollar reserves for many countries if they sign up. Agree with the member above (alternatiiv) it would be dependant on those countries needs, also palm oil itself is a perishable good, thus one must take caution and weight in the actual demand, miscalculations can result in negative economic consequences, which countries like Pakistan cannot afford to make.
 
Malaysia in talks with Pakistan, others to barter arms with palm oil
KUALA LUMPUR:

Malaysia is in talks with at least six countries, including Pakistan, on the possibility of using palm oil to pay for arms, as Southeast Asia’s third-biggest economy seeks to replace old equipment to boost its defence capabilities.
Malaysia has struggled to update its defence equipment over the years and a cut in its defence budget this year all but derailed efforts to replace navy ships, some of which have been in service for 35 years or more.
Costs have been a big hurdle but using palm oil to help pay for equipment could open new avenues to upgrade, Defence Minister Mohamad Sabu said on Monday.

Mohamad said discussions on paying with palm oil had started with China, Russia, India, Pakistan, Turkey and Iran.

“If they are prepared to accept a palm barter trade, we are very willing to go in that direction,” Mohamad told Reuters in an interview.

“We have a lot of palm oil.”

Malaysia and Indonesia, the world’s two largest palm oil producers, are embroiled in a dispute with the European Union over a plan to phase out the commodity from renewable fuels used by the bloc by 2030 over deforestation concerns.

The two countries supply about 85% of global palm oil, much of which is used in food but also in items such as lipstick and soap.

Mohamad said he could not put a figure on how much palm oil Malaysia was looking to trade for defence equipment.

Besides new ships, Malaysia was also keen to acquire long-range surveillance aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles and fast intercept boats, the minister said.
 
If it will happen it will must have mix of both Cash and Palm oil as a payment option.
 
I was against it but Pakistan already imports alot of palm oil. Its used in dalda ghee and used alot in Pakistan. If we can get it at a cheaper rate, then its a good deal. We will stop wasting dollars to import palm oil and also sell weapons, creating good relations.
 
Source

Malaysia in talks with Pakistan, others to barter arms with palm oil
By Reuters
Published: August 26, 2019

2042802-pakistanweapon-1566843308-375-640x480.jpg

File photo of International Defence Exhibition and seminar (IDEAS) in Karachi.

KUALA LUMPUR:
Malaysia is in talks with at least six countries, including Pakistan, on the possibility of using palm oil to pay for arms, as Southeast Asia’s third-biggest economy seeks to replace old equipment to boost its defence capabilities.

Malaysia has struggled to update its defence equipment over the years and a cut in its defence budget this year all but derailed efforts to replace navy ships, some of which have been in service for 35 years or more.

Costs have been a big hurdle but using palm oil to help pay for equipment could open new avenues to upgrade, Defence Minister Mohamad Sabu said on Monday.

Mohamad said discussions on paying with palm oil had started with China, Russia, India, Pakistan, Turkey and Iran.

“If they are prepared to accept a palm barter trade, we are very willing to go in that direction,” Mohamad told Reuters in an interview.

“We have a lot of palm oil.”

Malaysia and Indonesia, the world’s two largest palm oil producers, are embroiled in a dispute with the European Union over a plan to phase out the commodity from renewable fuels used by the bloc by 2030 over deforestation concerns.

The two countries supply about 85% of global palm oil, much of which is used in food but also in items such as lipstick and soap.

Mohamad said he could not put a figure on how much palm oil Malaysia was looking to trade for defence equipment.

Besides new ships, Malaysia was also keen to acquire long-range surveillance aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles and fast intercept boats, the minister said.
 
Source

Malaysia in talks with Pakistan, others to barter arms with palm oil
By Reuters
Published: August 26, 2019

2042802-pakistanweapon-1566843308-375-640x480.jpg

File photo of International Defence Exhibition and seminar (IDEAS) in Karachi.

KUALA LUMPUR:
Malaysia is in talks with at least six countries, including Pakistan, on the possibility of using palm oil to pay for arms, as Southeast Asia’s third-biggest economy seeks to replace old equipment to boost its defence capabilities.

Malaysia has struggled to update its defence equipment over the years and a cut in its defence budget this year all but derailed efforts to replace navy ships, some of which have been in service for 35 years or more.

Costs have been a big hurdle but using palm oil to help pay for equipment could open new avenues to upgrade, Defence Minister Mohamad Sabu said on Monday.

Mohamad said discussions on paying with palm oil had started with China, Russia, India, Pakistan, Turkey and Iran.

“If they are prepared to accept a palm barter trade, we are very willing to go in that direction,” Mohamad told Reuters in an interview.

“We have a lot of palm oil.”

Malaysia and Indonesia, the world’s two largest palm oil producers, are embroiled in a dispute with the European Union over a plan to phase out the commodity from renewable fuels used by the bloc by 2030 over deforestation concerns.

The two countries supply about 85% of global palm oil, much of which is used in food but also in items such as lipstick and soap.

Mohamad said he could not put a figure on how much palm oil Malaysia was looking to trade for defence equipment.

Besides new ships, Malaysia was also keen to acquire long-range surveillance aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles and fast intercept boats, the minister said.

What will they buy from us??
How will we use that palm oil??
Potential dumping concerns too?!!
 
Isn’t some food made with palm oil? May be a silly question, but I am unfamiliar with it.
 
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