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It would be an extremely rare occurrence for the US to sell a newly developed navy ship to any country.

Littoral Mission Ships

If the description is any indication, I'm willing to bet money that this is a variant of the 056 class Jiangdao Corvette.

Bangladesh bought four of the 1300 ton 90m version (C13B) "Shadhinota" (Independence) class while cutting metal on six locally - local 'submarine-killer' variants will feature ASW (total of eight). Nigeria bought the larger 1800 ton P18N variant (two). Thailand's variant is the HTMS Pattani Class. Two have been purchased and use Super Lynx 300 as SAR platforms. Bangladesh is looking at Finmecanicca-built Super Lynx helis as well.



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"On May 6, China commissioned its fourth anti-submarine warfare (ASW) optimized Type 056 Jiangdao-class corvette, the Huangshi. The Huangshi will join the People’s Liberation Army Navy’s (PLAN) North Sea Fleet as the most advanced PLAN ASW corvette. Since November 2014, China has commissioned two other Jiangdao-class ASW variants, including the Sanmenxia on November 13, 2014 for the East Sea Fleet and Zhuzhou on November 28, 2014 for the South Sea Fleet. The Diplomat reported on the inaugural Type 056 variant last November.

The 1,500-tonne displacement corvettes mark an important step in the PLAN’s ASW capabilities, an area that several analysts have noted as a weakness for China. The ASW variant Jiangdao-class ships feature four YJ-83 anti-ship missiles for surface warfare, and two triple-tube torpedo launchers, according to a report by IHS Jane’s Navy International. Additionally, the corvette’s flight deck allows for the operation of a single Z-9C helicopter (though limited maintenance facilities constrain the length and complexity of any helicopter operations).

What differentiates the ASW variants from the the 17 Jiangdao-class frigates that precede them is the inclusion of a towed array and variable depth sonar system. The inclusion of these systems indicates a focus on anti-submarine operations. China begin inaugurating its Type 056 Corvettes in 2012, and is building variants of the corvette for export. Early customers include Bangladesh, Thailand, and Nigeria.

As analysts, including The Diplomat‘s Robert Farley, have noted, anti-submarine warfare shot up the list of priorities for the PLAN over the last 24 months. In fact, one of the main tells of the PLAN’s “blue water” ambition is seen in its bid to bolster its ASW capabilities — coastal navies generally invest less into ASW capabilities compared to their expeditionary counterparts, who may find themselves on far-flung missions facing variable threats, including submarines. China’s focus on anti-access/area-denial systems was primarily intended to secure an asymmetric advantage for the PLA over a foe with greater conventional offensive strength (such as the United States).

With its new ASW focus, the PLAN is gearing up to offset threats from non-nuclear attack submarines in the East and South China Seas. Southeast Asia, for example, is currently undergoing what some have called a “proliferation” phase where submarine fleets are growing across the board. Vietnam, a claimant state to the Spratly Islands, is in the process of incorporating Russian diesel-electric improved Kilo-class submarines into its navy, posing a potential threat to China (see: “Vietnam’s China Challenge: Making Asymmetric Deterrence Work“). Submarines are seen as a worthwhile investment for smaller states fearing the prospect of a more assertive Chinese navy and coast guard. In reckoning with a South China Sea that is growing increasingly crowded with Chinese grey- and white-hull vessels, submarines are a stealthy and capable option.

Beyond the Type 056 ASW variant, China’s ASW capabilities are limited to its Y-8 maritime patrol aircraft and underwater acoustic sensors. The latter are primarily restricted to coastal use (though China’s South China Sea construction spree could lead to an expansion of its acoustic sensors into the Spratlys and Paracels, improving its anti-submarine capabilities)."
 
If the description is any indication, I'm willing to bet money that this is a variant of the 056 class Jiangdao Corvette.

Bangladesh bought four of the 1300 ton 90m version (C13B) "Shadhinota" (Independence) class while cutting metal on six locally - local 'submarine-killer' variants will feature ASW (total of eight). Nigeria bought the larger 1800 ton P18N variant (two). Thailand's variant is the HTMS Pattani Class. Two have been purchased and use Super Lynx 300 as SAR platforms. Bangladesh is looking at Finmecanicca-built Super Lynx helis as well.



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"On May 6, China commissioned its fourth anti-submarine warfare (ASW) optimized Type 056 Jiangdao-class corvette, the Huangshi. The Huangshi will join the People’s Liberation Army Navy’s (PLAN) North Sea Fleet as the most advanced PLAN ASW corvette. Since November 2014, China has commissioned two other Jiangdao-class ASW variants, including the Sanmenxia on November 13, 2014 for the East Sea Fleet and Zhuzhou on November 28, 2014 for the South Sea Fleet. The Diplomat reported on the inaugural Type 056 variant last November.

The 1,500-tonne displacement corvettes mark an important step in the PLAN’s ASW capabilities, an area that several analysts have noted as a weakness for China. The ASW variant Jiangdao-class ships feature four YJ-83 anti-ship missiles for surface warfare, and two triple-tube torpedo launchers, according to a report by IHS Jane’s Navy International. Additionally, the corvette’s flight deck allows for the operation of a single Z-9C helicopter (though limited maintenance facilities constrain the length and complexity of any helicopter operations).

What differentiates the ASW variants from the the 17 Jiangdao-class frigates that precede them is the inclusion of a towed array and variable depth sonar system. The inclusion of these systems indicates a focus on anti-submarine operations. China begin inaugurating its Type 056 Corvettes in 2012, and is building variants of the corvette for export. Early customers include Bangladesh, Thailand, and Nigeria.

As analysts, including The Diplomat‘s Robert Farley, have noted, anti-submarine warfare shot up the list of priorities for the PLAN over the last 24 months. In fact, one of the main tells of the PLAN’s “blue water” ambition is seen in its bid to bolster its ASW capabilities — coastal navies generally invest less into ASW capabilities compared to their expeditionary counterparts, who may find themselves on far-flung missions facing variable threats, including submarines. China’s focus on anti-access/area-denial systems was primarily intended to secure an asymmetric advantage for the PLA over a foe with greater conventional offensive strength (such as the United States).

With its new ASW focus, the PLAN is gearing up to offset threats from non-nuclear attack submarines in the East and South China Seas. Southeast Asia, for example, is currently undergoing what some have called a “proliferation” phase where submarine fleets are growing across the board. Vietnam, a claimant state to the Spratly Islands, is in the process of incorporating Russian diesel-electric improved Kilo-class submarines into its navy, posing a potential threat to China (see: “Vietnam’s China Challenge: Making Asymmetric Deterrence Work“). Submarines are seen as a worthwhile investment for smaller states fearing the prospect of a more assertive Chinese navy and coast guard. In reckoning with a South China Sea that is growing increasingly crowded with Chinese grey- and white-hull vessels, submarines are a stealthy and capable option.

Beyond the Type 056 ASW variant, China’s ASW capabilities are limited to its Y-8 maritime patrol aircraft and underwater acoustic sensors. The latter are primarily restricted to coastal use (though China’s South China Sea construction spree could lead to an expansion of its acoustic sensors into the Spratlys and Paracels, improving its anti-submarine capabilities)."


Fair analysis, I also asked @powastick about tech specs of the mentioned littoral mission ships to be purchased. Likely to be type-056 variant, well let's see how things unfold.
 
I have a feeling the new boats would be a enlarged variant of Azmat class FAC that China sold to Pakistan.

LMS is just a fancy name for coastal patrol boats. Malaysia's current fleet of 16 FAC/ patrol boats are practically at the end of their service lives after around 40 years in service.

The urgent need for modern patrol boats/ LMS is felt especially at the sea border between Malaysia's Sabah and Philippines's Mindanao.

Malaysia already have a relatively new Kedah class OPV fleet of 6 ships, so there is no reason to added another type of OPV/ corvette, especially TOT was included in Kedah class OPV purchase. I don't think Malaysia would add another 18 (as some rumour stated) corvettes.

Kedah Class OPV is a 1850 tonnes variant of MEKO 100 corvette.
 
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Thanks to the strong support by our locally Chinese Malaysians .. so, China corporates prefer to place their regional office in KL . For them ... Malaysia is a part of the Great China ...:-)
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Huawei opens regional office in Malaysia

KUALA LUMPUR -- China's Huawei Technologies on Wednesday opened regional headquarters in Kuala Lumpur, taking advantage of Malaysia's information and communications technology push to reach customers in the southern Pacific region.
Huawei's 15-million-ringgit ($3.6 million )Customer Solution Integration and Innovation Exper ience Centre will aggregate over 120 reference applications and services across the world, and implement plans to establish cloud storage, internet of things and big data labs in the next three years.
"To accelerate Malaysia's digital transformation, we need to focus on cross industry partnerships to deliver the right skills, solutions and infrastructure," said Abraham Liu, Huawei Malaysia CEO.
Huawei has been appointed adviser to the Malaysian government's plan to train professionals in information and communication technology in local colleges. Huawei says it will train 300 students yearly at the regional center, which was officiated by Prime Minister Najib Razak.
"It is estimated that a 20% increase in ICT investment will result in 1% of gross domestic product growth of a country," Najib said in a speech. "For Malaysia, the figure is even higher at around 1.4%."
Malaysia is setting up a digital free trade zone to lure foreign investment into ICT by dishing out incentives and working visas. Najib said the country needed to tap the expertise of global companies in the digital economy to realize Malaysia's goal of achieving a high-income nation by 2020.
"Indeed we have much to learn from the advances that China has made in growing and developing its own internet technology space," said Najib, pointing to Alibaba Group, Tencent Holdings and Baidu Inc. for their rapid growth in recent years.
Guangdong-based Huawei, which has been in Malaysia for 15 years, provides both hardware and software services.

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I have a feeling the new boats would be a enlarged variant of Azmat class FAC that China sold to Pakistan.

Azmat class is equipped with eight C-802 anti-ship cruise missiles and although way smaller than C13Bs or any other 056 class variant at 550 tons has some potent armament. However it is a green water vessel and not meant to patrol anything other than coastal waters. The equivalent in the Bangladesh Navy is the 'Durjoy' (Invincible) class at 650 tons.

Littoral Mission vessels may mean larger vessels of 1300-1800 tons, similar to Kedah class but with more firepower. The US response to the Chinese 056 littoral class was the 'Freedom' class which is in another category as far as module flexibility and motive capabilities. Freedom class routinely takes part in CARAT exercises with Brunei and Malaysia Navies.

LMS is just a fancy name for coastal patrol boats. Malaysia's current fleet of 16 FAC/ patrol boats are practically at the end of their service lives after around 40 years in service.

True.

The urgent need for modern patrol boats/ LMS is felt especially at the sea border between Malaysia's Sabah and Philippines's Mindanao.

The Philippines is not fielding very potent vessels in that area AFAIK. But this may change.
 
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The Philippines is not fielding very potent vessels in that area AFAIK. But this may change.

That is why we need to have more modern patrol boats in this area, the pirates and Abu Sayyaf from Mindanao are worse than those in Somali. And the Sulu insurgents from Southern Philippines can infiltrate into Malaysia again.
 
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That is why we need to have more modern patrol boats in this area, the pirates and Abu Sayyaf from Mindanao are worse than those in Somali. And the Sulu insurgents from Southern Philippines can infiltrate into Malaysia again.

Correct on all counts....:-)
 
Malaysian PM aims 'new heights' in bilateral relations for China visit

Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak has stated his commitment to develop Malaysia's "strong and stable" relations with China, saying he intends to ensure that "it continuously improves and reaches new heights."

In an exclusive interview ahead of his official visit to China starting on Monday, Najib said he regards China "as a true friend and a strategic partner" and the relationship between Malaysia and China has "created benefits not just for the people of our two nations but also for regional stability and harmony."

"It is a relationship I am personally committed to; not just as the Prime Minister of Malaysia, but also as the son of Tun Razak -- our former Prime Minister who first established diplomatic relations with China 42 years ago," he said in written responses.

Reiterating that the relationship between the two "has entered a special phase," Najib said he could not agree more with Chinese President Xi Jinping, who compared China's relations with Malaysia "as being as close as lips are to teeth" and Premier Li Keqiang, who recognized Malaysia as a "good neighbor, good partner and a good friend."

Recalling the achievements in bilateral cooperation since 2013, when the bilateral relations was upgraded to "Comprehensive Strategic Partnership," Najib listed a series of major infrastructure projects in railways, real estate and energy, the opening of a campus by China's Xiamen University in Malaysia and an increasing number of Chinese tourists arriving in Malaysia, which he hoped could reach two million by the end of the year.

He highlighted "military cooperation," saying it has "hit new heights in recent years." Aside from the joint military training exercises in 2015 between Chinese and Malaysian armed forces, Najib revealed that that the two countries will be finalizing "the first significant defense deal" during his trip.

He also noted that "a number of new agreements and understandings in various fields ranging from economy and defense to education and innovation" will be signed during the visit.

Najib, who is about to embark on his third official visit to China since he assumed office in 2009, played down the impact of a sluggish global economy, saying trade relations between the two countries, having reached over US$100 billion in 2013, will continue to grow.

Aside from a number of opportunities to do business with China, including energy and infrastructure, Najib noted that Malaysia has "welcomed significant investment from China" in innovation and technology.

He said Chinese telecommunications giant Huawei's expanding presence in Malaysia symbolizes "the confidence that leading Chinese companies have in our economy."

Najib commended the China-proposed Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, saying he believes "the bank can join the ranks of the World Bank and the Asian Development Bank as a powerful platform to assist developing countries achieve greater growth and development."

Najib also welcomed the "Belt and Road" Initiative, saying there are "clear synergies" between the initiative and Malaysia's national transformation plan, which he put forward at the 2017 Budget speech earlier this month.

On issues of security challenges faced by Malaysia and China, Najib said both countries have agreed to further strengthen cooperation in the areas of law enforcement, security and defense, including friendly visits and security consultation in between respective law enforcement, security and defense agencies.

Najib said he is also committed to increase cooperation between the two sides in joint exercises and personnel training.

He noted that the "community of common destiny" idea, proposed by Chinese President Xi Jinping, reflects that China is intended to ensure a peaceful neighboring environment, which is crucial for the region's continued growth and stability.


During the trip, Najib will meet Chinese President Xi Jinping, Premier Li Keqiang and top legislator Zhang Dejiang, according to a spokesman from China's Foreign Ministry.
 
Bangladesh' Shadhinota class corvette (C13B) retains most of the sensor and weapon systems found on board Chinese Navy Type 056 corvettes:

» 4x C-803 (export version of YJ-83) Anti-ship missiles (2 launchers with 2 missiles each)
» 1x FL-3000N (export version of AJK-10 / HQ-10) Surface to air missile launcher (8x missiles)
» 1x H/PJ-26 76mm main gun (similar to Russian AK-176)
» 2x H/PJ-17 30mm dual mode (auto/manual) remote controlled naval turret

The Bangladesh Navy corvette will be fitted with one Type 730 CIWS and two Type 3200 ASW rocket launchers which will replace the two triple torpedo launchers.

The ship uses SharpEye I-Band (X-band) and E/F-band (S-band) radars from Kelvin Hughes with MantaDigital tactical display software.

These radars are used for surface search and navigation purposes and can be used for helicopter control and recovery.

The low peak transmission power of these radars reduces the probability of intercept by ESM systems.
 
Malaysia only bought a gunship for their Littoral mission Vessels, although they will be wired for missile placement if any need in near future dictates them to put those missiles
 
Malaysia will sign a contract with China for a railway tomorrow. The project known as ECRL cost MYR 55 billion, roughly USD 13 billion . And is expected to be completed in 2022.



Malaysia-China menterai perjanjian projek ECRL esok


Bernama
| October 31, 2016

Pembiayaan ditawarkan China sangat kompetitif dengan kadar rendah berbanding pasaran antarabangsa, selain tempoh pembayaran balik yang panjang iaitu selama 20 tahun.


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BEIJING: Malaysia dan China akan menandatangani Perjanjian Rangka Kerja Pembiayaan dan Kontrak Kejuruteraan, Pemerolehan, Pembinaan (EPC) Laluan Kereta Api Pantai Timur (ECRL), esok.

Ketua Setiausaha Perbendaharaan Tan Sri Irwan Serigar Abdullah berkata, jika pembiayaan projek RM55 bilion itu dimuktamadkan menjelang akhir tahun, rel berkembar baharu yang menghubungkan Pelabuhan Klang, Selangor ke Tumpat, Kelantan itu akan bermula tahun depan.

Beliau berkata kesan limpahan projek kereta api itu bukan sahaja dari segi mengurangkan kos pengangkutan antara Pantai Barat dan Pantai Timur Semenanjung, malah turut dapat mengurangkan harga barangan di Pantai Timur, memendekkan masa perjalanan serta menjadi pemangkin ekonomi dalam merangsang pertumbuhan bandar-bandar kecil di sepanjang laluan.

Projek itu juga akan membantu mewujudkan lebih banyak peluang pekerjaan dan perniagaan, terutama dalam kalangan penduduk luar bandar, katanya kepada media Malaysia selepas menyambut ketibaan Perdana Menteri Datuk Seri Najib Razak di sini pada Isnin untuk lawatan rasmi 6 hari ke China.

Irwan Siregar berkata walaupun perjanjian itu belum dimuktamadkan, namun pembiayaan yang ditawarkan oleh China sangat kompetitif dengan kadar rendah berbanding pasaran antarabangsa, selain tempoh pembayaran balik yang panjang iaitu selama 20 tahun.

Beliau berkata projek itu sangat penting kepada Malaysia, dan tidak boleh ditangguhkan memandangkan ia bukan sahaja merangsang pembangunan industri pengangkutan negara, malah membantu mempercepatkan pertumbuhan bandar-bandar kecil di sepanjang laluan.

Projek itu juga akan membantu proses pemindahan teknologi dalam industri kereta api, katanya.

“Pembangunan kereta api kini merupakan perkara penting, dan Malaysia perlu bertindak untuk mendapatkan teknologi dan sistem baharu pembangunan kereta api,” katanya.

Ditanya mengenai kawasan akan dibangunkan dahulu, Irwan Siregar berkata projek itu akan dibangunkan secara berperingkat, dengan fasa pertama dari Pelabuhan Klang – Gombak – Dungun ( lcloo : finally, a rail connection between KL to my home town), Terengganu dan fasa kedua dari Dungun ke Tumpat.

Mengenai fasa yang akan dimulakan, beliau berkata “ia bergantung kepada yang mana senang untuk dibangunkan”, katanya.

Beliau juga yakin isu pengambilan tanah tidak akan menimbulkan masalah untuk projek ECRL.

Dalam pembentangan Bajet 2017, perdana menteri mengumumkan pelaksanaan projek itu secara berfasa, melibatkan laluan dari Pelabuhan Klang, ITT Gombak, Bentong, Mentakab, Kuantan, Kemaman, Kerteh, Kuala Terengganu, Kota Bharu dan berakhir di Tumpat.

Pembinaan ECRL berkenaan dijangka bermula tahun depan dan siap pada 2022, dengan anggaran kasar kos RM55 bilion.

Sementara itu, menyentuh mengenai perjumpaan Najib dan Jack Ma, pengasas dan pengerusi eksekutif Alibaba Group yang merupakan usahawan terkenal, terutama dalam e-perniagaan atau perniagaan berasaskan Internet, Irwan Siregar berkata ia merupakan antara usaha Malaysia untuk mempelajari ekonomi digital daripada China.
 
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Four LMS, not 18 as rumoured, so this might turn up to be variant of 056 instead of Azmat class.




Tuesday, 1 November 2016 | MYT 9:34 PM

Najib: Malaysia-China defence deal a landmark decision
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Najib (behind,L) and Li behind,R) attend a signing ceremony at the Great Hall of the People, in Beijing, China, 01 November 2016. The Malaysian Prime Minister is in China for an official visit. - EPA.



BEIJING: The Malaysian Government's two-year defence deal with China to buy and build four littoral mission ships is a "landmark" decision, says Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak.

"The contract value is to be worked out based on (the ships') specifications, but this agreement on cooperation could be extended," he said on Tuesday.

"I call this a landmark decision because before this, we had not bought such vessels from China," said Najib at a press conference after holding bilateral talks with Chinese Premier Li Keqiang.

The deal was one of 14 memoranda of understanding (MOU) signed at the Great Hall of The People here after the two leaders successfully held "friendly and fruitful" bilateral talks.



Najib also said China had agreed to grant soft loans to Malaysia for the construction of the East Coast Rail Line, estimated to coat RM55bil.
 
Tue Nov 1, 2016 | 9:57am EDT
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-malaysia-idUSKBN12W3WF

By Sue-Lin Wong | BEIJING

Malaysia has agreed to buy four Chinese naval vessels and pledged with Beijing to handle South China Sea disputes bilaterally, a Chinese official said on Tuesday, in what could be China's latest counter to U.S. influence in the region.

The vessels are known as littoral mission ships, small craft that operate close to shore. Two will be built in China and two in Malaysia, Malaysian state media reported after a meeting between Chinese Premier Li Keqiang and his visiting counterpart Prime Minister Najib Razak.

Last week, Malaysia's defense ministry said in a posting on social media that the country would sign a contract to purchase patrol vessels from China during Najib's week-long visit that began on Sunday, but the post was later removed.

The move marks Malaysia's first significant defense deal with China at a time of rising tension in the South China Sea.

"Leaders of the two sides agreed to further advance the proper settlement of the South China Sea issue with dialogue through a bilateral channel," Chinese Vice Foreign Minister Liu Zhenmin told reporters at Beijing's Great Hall of the People where Li and Najib met.

"Obviously the launching of naval cooperation between the two sides is significant for our bilateral ties. It's a reflection of the very high level, mutual political trust between our two countries," Liu said.

He gave no other details on the deal.

Littoral mission ships can be equipped with a helicopter flight deck and carry missiles. They are primarily used for coastal security, maritime patrol and surveillance, but can also be deployed for disaster relief and search and rescue operations.

China claims most of the South China Sea as its territory. But Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam also have rival claims to parts of the waterway, which commands strategic sea lanes which carry some $5 trillion worth of trade a year.

Najib's visit follows that of Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte, who announced the country's "separation" from the United States and signed a raft of memoranda of understanding for Chinese investment in the country.

The push to strengthen China ties comes after July lawsuits filed by the U.S. Justice Department implicating Najib in a money-laundering scandal. Najib has denied any wrongdoing and said Malaysia will cooperate in the international investigations.

"I think there's a mischaracterisation here. There's no such thing as using our financial muscle to improve ties," Liu said in response to a reporter's question on the issue.


Both nations also signed deals for collaboration to build rail projects in Malaysia, which included the 55 billion ringgit ($13.2 billion) East Coast Rail Line.

Najib told Malaysian state news agency Bernama that both countries had made a historic achievement by signing 14 agreements totaling 143.64 billion ringgit ($34.4 billion).


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that smells like malaysian pm is telling usa not to pursue the 1mdb scandal?
 
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