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Malaysia cancels two big Chinese projects, fearing they will bankrupt the country

Same needs to be done by Pakistan, some CPEC projects needs to be cancelled.
All of CPEC project should be cancelled. Pakistan is a dangerous place to invest and credit bankrupt. No true businessmen want to go there for safety of person.
I'm 100% sure Pakistan can not afford the loan and will break the contract. It is a shame our government is not a democratic one and we common people can not decide where our money to be invested.
 
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In term of GDP per capita, Malaysia is higher than China's.

While the poorer China is able to build massive infrastructures, Malaysia can't.
 
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In term of GDP per capita, Malaysia is higher than China's.

While the poorer China is able to build massive infrastructures, Malaysia can't.
China saves more than many other developing nations, it is at the top of the chart in terms of savings rate. About half of the nation's income is saved and invested (how it is invested is another matter). It is not that Malaysia is doing bad, they are a normal case but they don't save enough to grow at high rates sustainably without significant external capital. Rapid expansion of the economy during the capital intensive phase requires as the name suggests, intensive capital. At this stage the nation cannot just exploit labour intensive and non-capital intensive industries based on their advantage in low labour costs. Capital can either come from elsewhere or from domestic savings. Most of China's capital comes from domestic savings. China's external debt is 15% of GDP which is low compared to other nations such as Malaysia's 75% and foreign reserve is higher than foreign debt.

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https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GNS.ICTR.ZS?locations=CN-MY&view=chart&year_high_desc=true

This results in low external debt for China even though its total debt is increasing, it is internally financed and China also controls its own monetary policy. Giving China the ability to undertake massive projects. It buffers China from many of the shocks of the international credit supply and monetary policy (US Federal reserve policies has a major impact upon the global economy, directly and indirectly), but global economy and policies still affect China, just not as severely as compared to other nations and is less direct.

China chose the more difficult but more secure way to finance its growth. Instead of living the high life and finding external creditors to finance its growth, the nation saves half its income mainly in state banks. China can't just print money without consequence. The large amount of aggregate savings creates a relative abundance of domestic credit supply meaning relatively cheap money (compared to domestic low savings senario). For many developing nations, interest rates would be too high to borrow from if they just depended on domestic savings as the credit supply (due to low savings), thus these nations look for outside creditors to lower interest rates for there to be an environment conducive to business growth.

For many developing nations, a large part of their debt is foreign, from nations that have large savings. The positive aspect is that they are able to develop many essential and profit generating projects with ease. The negative aspect is the instability that might occur due to the economic structure of their own economy. For example a resource focused economy would be hit hard (or benefit immensely but is unstable causing long term problems) due to cycles of the commodity market or geopolitical events that impact energy sector heavily, resulting in a major devaluation of their currency such as in the case of Brazil and Russia in recent years. This currency devaluation combined with large foreign debt creates a situation where they are compelled to deleverage.

Many developing economies experienced this throughout various global business cycle downturns. Their currency is devalued relative to USD but must pay back debt denominated in USD, meaning a larger percentage of their nation's GDP must be used to pay debt, creating deleveraging. This constricts the money supply causing projects to pause, these projects might be essential in generating future value, slowing the economy down due to lower current spending and long term issues from unfunded projects. Saudi Arabia mitigates this somewhat through a peg with the USD, large reserves, and a strategic relationship with the US.

Stability of money supply is essential for any economy, doesn't matter too much where it comes from, as long as it is stable then there would be a good environment for growth.
 
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Well, for Pakistan it is simple. If it is anti-India, it is going to be pro-Pakistan. First USA and then China.

For rest of countries they went ape at the prospect of getting money easily. Its predatory lending all over again.


What part of CPEC is targetted at India? None.

Reality Check: India can't even provide toilet for its people. Let's not overstate its importance.
 
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All of CPEC project should be cancelled. Pakistan is a dangerous place to invest and credit bankrupt. No true businessmen want to go there for safety of person.
I'm 100% sure Pakistan can not afford the loan and will break the contract. It is a shame our government is not a democratic one and we common people can not decide where our money to be invested.
Even if the Government is democratic, the people will have no say when the Government wants to invest. People can only question but at the end of the day, it's the Governments decision.
 
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In term of GDP per capita, Malaysia is higher than China's.

While the poorer China is able to build massive infrastructures, Malaysia can't.

Larger countries have greater economies of scale and can thus better undertake massive projects. It's more got to do with the overall size of the economy than with GDP per capita.
 
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China saves more than many other developing nations, it is at the top of the chart in terms of savings rate. About half of the nation's income is saved and invested (how it is invested is another matter). It is not that Malaysia is doing bad, they are a normal case but they don't save enough to grow at high rates sustainably without significant external capital. Rapid expansion of the economy during the capital intensive phase requires as the name suggests, intensive capital. At this stage the nation cannot just exploit labour intensive and non-capital intensive industries based on their advantage in low labour costs. Capital can either come from elsewhere or from domestic savings. Most of China's capital comes from domestic savings. China's external debt is 15% of GDP which is low compared to other nations such as Malaysia's 75% and foreign reserve is higher than foreign debt.

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https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GNS.ICTR.ZS?locations=CN-MY&view=chart&year_high_desc=true

This results in low external debt for China even though its total debt is increasing, it is internally financed and China also controls its own monetary policy. Giving China the ability to undertake massive projects. It buffers China from many of the shocks of the international credit supply and monetary policy (US Federal reserve policies has a major impact upon the global economy, directly and indirectly), but global economy and policies still affect China, just not as severely as compared to other nations and is less direct.

China chose the more difficult but more secure way to finance its growth. Instead of living the high life and finding external creditors to finance its growth, the nation saves half its income mainly in state banks. China can't just print money without consequence. The large amount of aggregate savings creates a relative abundance of domestic credit supply meaning relatively cheap money (compared to domestic low savings senario). For many developing nations, interest rates would be too high to borrow from if they just depended on domestic savings as the credit supply (due to low savings), thus these nations look for outside creditors to lower interest rates for there to be an environment conducive to business growth.

For many developing nations, a large part of their debt is foreign, from nations that have large savings. The positive aspect is that they are able to develop many essential and profit generating projects with ease. The negative aspect is the instability that might occur due to the economic structure of their own economy. For example a resource focused economy would be hit hard (or benefit immensely but is unstable causing long term problems) due to cycles of the commodity market or geopolitical events that impact energy sector heavily, resulting in a major devaluation of their currency such as in the case of Brazil and Russia in recent years. This currency devaluation combined with large foreign debt creates a situation where they are compelled to deleverage.

Many developing economies experienced this throughout various global business cycle downturns. Their currency is devalued relative to USD but must pay back debt denominated in USD, meaning a larger percentage of their nation's GDP must be used to pay debt, creating deleveraging. This constricts the money supply causing projects to pause, these projects might be essential in generating future value, slowing the economy down due to lower current spending and long term issues from unfunded projects. Saudi Arabia mitigates this somewhat through a peg with the USD, large reserves, and a strategic relationship with the US.

Stability of money supply is essential for any economy, doesn't matter too much where it comes from, as long as it is stable then there would be a good environment for growth.

It has little to do with monetary policy or savings really. It's simply economies of scale. Malaysia will still contract foreign firms for massive infrastructure projects even if she has a high saving rate.
 
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At last some one read about Lanka and African countries
 
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Was expecting to read a Malaysian or Chinese(english media) news article.

Came to some strongly-worded parts of the article thst i wadnt expecting to see in an on-topic neutral article, stopped reading n scrolled to bottom.

True enough, saw 'washingtonpost'.

Tired of read mudslinging propaganda mouthpieces from Western sources.

Malaysia and China's ties are tried and tested. Coming from The Washington Post is what's wrong with this article. China's relation with Malaysia shouldn't be assessed based on these two projects (which aren't completely cancelled but being reviewed)

Washington Post :lol:
Master of spin doctor


Here Malaysian Article.

Chinese ‘projects will not go on’: Mahathir blasts Najib’s ‘stupidity’
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Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad on Tuesday demurred on whether there had been resolutions on his plans to cancel controversial Beijing-backed infrastructure projects in his country after meetings with top Chinese leaders, as he repeatedly slammed his predecessor Najib Razak’s “stupidity” for endorsing the deals in the first place.

Mahathir’s five-day visit to China – capped by meetings with President Xi Jinping and Premier Li Keqiang – was in part meant to move along renegotiation talks on the projects, but the Malaysian leader said more time was needed to achieve his objectives.

The premier continued to demur on whether he was seeking to cancel or defer the US$20 billion East Coast Rail Link and two pipelines worth over US$2 billion.

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“The projects will not go on. At the moment, the priority is reducing our debt … it will be deferred until such time when we can afford, then maybe we will reduce the cost,” Mahathir said before his departure for Kuala Lumpur.

“If we have to pay compensation, we have to pay. This is the stupidity of the negotiations before. We must find a way to exit these projects … this is our own people’s stupidity.”

‘We like rich partners’: Malaysia’s Mahathir heads to China for fence-mending trip
Mahathir said while the matter was between the Chinese companies building the projects, he had told the government his point of view on why he felt the deals were lopsided.

“They agreed,” Mahathir said.

Mahathir said any anxiousness China felt about his takeover from the Beijing-friendly Najib would have dissipated with his visit. “They did not understand what I was doing. I had to explain myself,” Mahathir said.

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It’s better to push the stop button before seeing the car jump over the cliff. Not only Malaya, also Vietnam will no longer accept high interest Chinese loans in connection with high prized infrastructure projects.

Looks like uncle sam is here to stay :lol:
 
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It’s better to push the stop button before seeing the car jump over the cliff. Not only Malaya, also Vietnam will no longer accept high interest Chinese loans in connection with high prized infrastructure projects.
Vietnam can always put her women folk as mortgage for the loans. Vietnamese women(east asian type, not jungle austroasiatic) r in high demand in the sinosphere.

Also, nobody ever forces any1 to take loans. No guns were pointed at any1s head to accept those loans.
Its always human greed tt takes over
 
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