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Malaysia airliner search points up China's technology gap

Malaysia airliner search points up China's technology gap - latimes.com


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The Jiaolong, China's first manned deep-sea submersible, is a source of pride for the nation. But its mother ship has been unreliable, and Chinese officials have not offered the vessel for use in the search for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. (ChinaFotoPress / June 19, 2012)


BEIJING — In June 2012, China reveled in a major scientific achievement: The nation's first manned deep-sea submersible, the Jiaolong, had dived more than 4.3 miles into the Mariana Trench in the Pacific Ocean. The feat, state-run media said, put China among the elite ranks of such deep-sea-faring countries as the U.S., France and Japan.

Equipped with sonar equipment and two mechanical arms that can lift as much as 220 pounds, the submersible is just the kind of vehicle that might prove useful in the search for missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, which investigators now believe is resting 2.8 miles beneath the surface of the Indian Ocean. Of the jet's 239 passengers and crew members, 153 were Chinese.

But while China has launched itself into the search effort with gusto — it focused its satellites to search for debris, scrambled ships and dispatched airplanes — the effort has thrown an awkward light on the gap between the country's high-tech aspirations and its limitations.

China hasn't offered the Jiaolong and the Australia-based search team hasn't asked, leaving the lead role to a U.S.-built robot sub, the Bluefin-21.

"We are frustrated that we have this great vehicle and it's not being deployed on this important mission," said Cui Weicheng, who helped design the Jiaolong and was aboard the vessel on several missions.

Then again, Cui acknowledged, Chinese officials might be worried about getting the submersible to the search area. Its mother ship, the Facing the Red Sun No. 9, built in 1978, has had engine problems and is unreliable.

"On its last mission, from June to September 2013, the mother ship broke down many times," Cui said. "It needed many repairs.... I think that's why the Chinese government may be hesitating to send it."


Forty days into the quest to locate the Boeing 777, it's been American, Australian and British equipment and vessels that have turned up what investigators have called the most promising leads. Meanwhile, officials in other countries have chafed about China getting out over its skis, rushing to release technical findings that proved to be false leads.

"We cannot deny that the United States has much more advanced technology in this regard," said Xu Guangyu, a retired military officer who is a consultant with the Beijing-based China Arms Control and Disarmament Assn. "The U.S. satellite system is much better, as is their ability to analyze very complicated data. These are things that we have to learn from the United States."

Last week, the state-run China Daily newspaper ran a rather frank front-page article headlined "Tech Gap Exposed in Search Mission; Experts Say More Development Needed in Nation's Advanced Maritime Equipment."

A few days earlier, China had grabbed headlines — and caught Australian search coordinators off guard — when state-run CCTV announced that China's Haixun 01 search vessel might have picked up acoustic transmissions from the jet's data recorders. It was the first report of any such "pings."

But questions quickly arose when photos showed searchers using a commercially available $16,000 hand-held device, made in the United States, dangled over the side of the boat. An Australian navy ship, meanwhile, towed a deep-water pinger locater lent by the U.S. military.

Little more was said about the purported pings until this week, when Angus Houston, the retired Australian air chief marshal who has been coordinating the search efforts from Perth, said the Chinese data had been "analyzed and discounted as a credible transmission." He said investigators were relying on four other detections made by the American pinger locater.

Though Houston tried to minimize the awkwardness of the Chinese disclosure, other governments have bluntly admonished Beijing.

Malaysia's acting transportation minister, Hishammuddin Hussein, rebuked it for wasting time by posting satellite imagery purporting to show debris over the South China Sea, along the aircraft's intended flight path. The photos, he said, had been released by "mistake."

China ought to be familiar with such "nontraditional security" missions. In the last decade, its military has practiced similar operations during exercises with foreign militaries and governments, said Dennis Blasko, a former U.S. Army attache to China and author of "The Chinese Army Today."

"This gives them a chance to implement that type of training in a real-world situation," Blasko said.

But the search has exposed a lack of trust not only in China's information, but in its intentions.

India, for instance, refused a request last month for China to send four warships to join the search around the Andaman Islands.

"China has been sniffing around Indian waters for a long time. Delhi was naturally suspicious of that request," said C. Raja Mohan, an Indian academic who has written widely about Sino-Indian maritime rivalry.

In China, where the search has received wall-to-wall media attention, the public is eager to see the country make a breakthrough contribution. Asked about it Monday, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said that China was "going full steam ahead with the search operation."

As speculation ran high last week that China might dispatch the Jiaolong, named for a fabled sea dragon, authorities posted a statement on the submersible's long-dormant Sina Weibo microblog account, apologizing for not keeping the account up to date. It explained that the team lacked the staffing to share fresh information.

Internet users met the message with disappointment and derision.

"To be honest, we don't really care if you actually write posts on Weibo," one commenter said. "We care about whether you can appear in the ocean southwest of Australia."

Said another, "We need a dragon that can dive into the ocean, not a worm that can only bluff."



Malaysia airliner search points up China's technology gap - latimes.com
 
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Whenever their " pride" of the nation in any field is forced to prove itself outside the great wall of propaganda... the world sees its true a ' made in china' quality.
 
Then again, Cui acknowledged, Chinese officials might be worried about getting the submersible to the search area. Its mother ship, the Facing the Red Sun No. 9, built in 1978, has had engine problems and is unreliable.

"On its last mission, from June to September 2013, the mother ship broke down many times," Cui said. "It needed many repairs.... I think that's why the Chinese government may be hesitating to send it."


built in 1978, of course it doesn't run smoothly. lol. indian newly built ships and c-130j ****** up in only a few months in service..

Forty days into the quest to locate the Boeing 777, it's been American, Australian and British equipment and vessels that have turned up what investigators have called the most promising leads. Meanwhile, officials in other countries have chafed about China getting out over its skis, rushing to release technical findings that proved to be false leads.


where is the plane?


"We cannot deny that the United States has much more advanced technology in this regard," said Xu Guangyu, a retired military officer who is a consultant with the Beijing-based China Arms Control and Disarmament Assn. "The U.S. satellite system is much better, as is their ability to analyze very complicated data. These are things that we have to learn from the United States."


so far, all the data from satellites are nothing, but garbage... again, where is the plane?

c'mon. superior 'made in america' satellites, P3 planes, and other superior assets that's been used for searching for 40 days.. where is it?:D
 
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Whenever their " pride" of the nation in any field is forced to prove itself outside the great wall of propaganda... the world sees its true a ' made in china' quality.

the op said, “Forty days into the quest to locate the Boeing 777, it's been American, Australian and British equipment and vessels that have turned up what investigators have called the most promising leads. Meanwhile, officials in other countries have chafed about China getting out over its skis, rushing to release technical findings that proved to be false leads.”

it has blatantly shamelessly denied our contribution as reported by the cheerleaders' news

China spots new ‘missing Malaysian plane debris’ in the Indian Ocean - Hindustan Times
Kuala Lumpur, March 22, 2014
 
Whenever their " pride" of the nation in any field is forced to prove itself outside the great wall of propaganda... the world sees its true a ' made in china' quality.
how can a stupid people like you be a elite member. That is a shame to the name "elite"
 
Going forward, any news about Chinese threat is all propaganda. US, Europe and India need not worry.
 
Another piece of propangada written by american.

See how China rebutt another piece of crap news previously.

An the indian are desperate to jump at any negative news without using their brain in the first place. I can understand the bitterness of indian of losing every competition with China. Be it economy, military and sport. The only thing China cant beat indian is their poverty level. :lol:

People's Daily Journalists address provocative New York Times report - People's Daily Online
 
American media is now all anti-Chinese propaganda. That's all they do.

Why?

Because they see China is going to overtake the US within 20 years so they are getting frustrated, agitated and angry.
 
American media is now all anti-Chinese propaganda. That's all they do.

Why?

Because they see China is going to overtake the US within 20 years so they are getting frustrated, agitated and angry.

Precisely, even many european are already wary of any crap written by american about China. The only people who until now still fall into these tricks of american are indian. This shows why they always lack behind their peer becos of the intelligent level. :lol:
 
American media is now all anti-Chinese propaganda. That's all they do.

Why?

Because they see China is going to overtake the US within 20 years so they are getting frustrated, agitated and angry.

take over what? your millionaires are all running off to the US. surely you don't think GDP shared among a billion people vs the GDP shared 300-400 million , makes you better....

a kid working part time flipping hamburgers at Mcdonell's here make more in year that your factory workers make in year... LOL

Another piece of propangada written by american.

See how China rebutt another piece of crap news previously.

An the indian are desperate to jump at any negative news without using their brain in the first place. I can understand the bitterness of indian of losing every competition with China. Be it economy, military and sport. The only thing China cant beat indian is their poverty level. :lol:

People's Daily Journalists address provocative New York Times report - People's Daily Online

so you show us your propaganda media as a rebuttal? LOL no wonder they( chinese govt) censor stuff for you chinese sheep...
 
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Its not fair to blame China alone in the search for the plane,as its a reminder for everyone that with all those shiny technologies,man has not yet grown to mess with mother nature!
 
take over what? your millionaires are all running off to the US. surely you don't think GDP shared among a billion people vs the GDP shared 300-400 million , makes you better....

a kid working part time flipping hamburgers at Mcdonell's here make more in year that your factory workers make in year... LOL



so you show us your propaganda media as a rebuttal? LOL no wonder they( chinese govt) censor stuff for you chinese sheep...

Once we have a bigger economy, its over for the US.

US fears China, no doubt about it.
 
but no chinese are telling why are they not deploying the latest submersible after all the majority are chinese who died.
 
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