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Malala Yousafzai needs little introduction. The 17-year-old Pakistani schoolgirl, education advocate and survivor of a Taliban assassination attempt is her country's most famous teenager and has been the darling of the international community for more than two years now. Her triumph today — winning the Nobel Peace Prize alongside an Indian activist who fought against child labor — makes her both the youngest person ever to be awarded the prize and only the second Pakistani.

But the story of the first Pakistani Nobel laureate is worth remembering, and not for particularly happy reasons.

In 1979, Abdus Salam, a Pakistani physicist known for his pioneering work on subatomic particles, was awarded the Nobel Prize in physics alongside two other scientists. The research conducted by Salam and his colleagues anticipated the discovery decades later of the Higgs Boson, known colloquially as the "God particle."

In the years preceding his Nobel victory, Salam had been one of Pakistan's most notable and acclaimed scientists. He helped establish Pakistan's space agency, was a science adviser to the government and played an integral role in starting research into nuclear and other technologies.

But as far as many people in Pakistan were concerned, there was one blot on his record: Salam belonged to the Ahmadi sect, whose adherents are considered heretics by some Muslims because they don't believeMuhammad was the last prophet.

In 1974, the Pakistani government amended the nation's constitution to decree that members of the sect would not be considered Muslims under the country's laws. Salam resigned from his government post and eventually moved to Europe, where he would live until his death in Oxford in 1996.

Express Tribune recounts:

While [Salam] was shunned in his own country, the world held him in high regard. The then Prime Minister of India, Indira Gandhi, invited him to India and bestowed a great gesture of respect by not only serving him tea with her own hands, but also sitting by his feet.

In Geneva, Switzerland, a road was named after him. In Beijing, the prime minister and president of China attended a dinner hosted in his honour while the South Korean president requested Salam to advise Korean scientists on how to win the Nobel Prize. Salam was also presented with dozens of honorary degrees of doctorate and awards for his hard work.

Just this past week, the Abdus Salam International Centre for Theoretical Physics, a U.N.-affiliated institute based in Trieste, Italy, commemoratedits 50th anniversary.

But none of Salam's great accomplishments mitigated bias against his community in Pakistan. There are roughly 3 million Ahmadis in Pakistan; other communities exist throughout South Asia and Southeast Asia. In Pakistan, further religious laws tightened the scope of their religious practice — Ahmadis, for example, aren't technically allowed to call their places of worship "mosques" — and created a legal basis for the Ahmadis' continued persecution. On grounds that they are supposed "apostates," Ahmadis face the perpetual risk of prosecution for simply observing their faith.

The community also became vulnerable to violence from intolerant religious extremists. This year alone, at least 13 Ahmadis have been killed in targeted attacks in Pakistan. The Taliban insurgency in Pakistan, steeped in sectarian slaughter, has called for the death of Ahmadis and the destruction of their holy sites.

Per his own instructions, Salam's body was taken back to Pakistan and buried next to the graves of his parents. His gravestone epitaph read, "First Muslim Nobel Laureate." But a local magistrate ordered the word "Muslim" to be obscured — much like Salam's larger legacy in Pakistan.

The sad, pathetic irony of all this was that Salam was a proud Muslim and saw his scientific pursuits as an extension of his Islamic identity. Here's Pervez Hoodbhoy, a leading Pakistani scientist and commentator, onSalam's worldview:

Intensely proud of the Muslim contributions to science and civilization, and upset at how they are usually forgotten or sidelined, Salam would gently but eloquently admonish Western audiences for their ignorance. Significantly, he began his Nobel Prize speech about the travel of the Michael the Scot to Muslim Spain in the search for knowledge; in those days the lands of Islam were the sole repositories of learning. Before Muslim audiences he would make passionate exhortations that Muslims should re-enter the world of science and technology before they became utterly marginalized. Nothing hurt him more than the stony barrenness of the intellect in Islamic countries today.

That "stony barrenness" is now once more in view. Like Salam, Malala Yousafzai, whom the Taliban tried to kill for her outspoken role in promoting education for girls, lives in de facto exile in Britain. She is the source of a conspicuous and disgraceful amount of slander back home, with some critics deeming her a stooge of Western interests, a CIA agent, and a "useless type of girl."

Islamists of various stripes, including some figures with a great deal of influence, have all heaped such calumny upon the teenager and will likely continue to do so, even as many others in Pakistan celebrate her mission and her achievements.

Out of safety concerns, Malala may not return to Pakistan for many years to come. One can only hope that the country's second Nobel laureate won't remain as cut off from her homeland as its first.

By winning the Nobel prize, Malala joins Pakistan’s loneliest club - The Washington Post
 
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Heard too many angry Pakistanis on radio calling it a conspiracy by west and the host were literally going WTF! :lol:
They were proudly saying that most of the Pakistanis back home believe this conspiracy theory .

Somehow it was seen by most other callers as Islam viz-a-viz women rights and the calls by Pakistanis were fueling that Islamophobia.
 
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“Why I HATE Malala Yousafzai” ~ a guest post by Kunwar Khuldune Shahid
November 21, 2013
Over the past few weeks, what with the Nobel hoopla and all, everyone has had something to say or write about Malala Yousafzai.

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The politicians propagated their own agenda, liberal fascists whined about their cause and journalists used the issue to put forward their personal agendas through the debate surrounding the teenager.

Some writers wrote satires that were taken seriously, others wrote serious pieces that weren’t taken seriously and then there were the white man’s burden, brown man’s burden and burdens that came in other colours, being discussed in articles that tried to complicate a debate that has been pretty simple all along.

Now, as I write this piece, what I intend to do is give you a completely straightforward perspective, one that you will not find in any other article written about Malala.

I have no issue being dubbed a misogynist, fundamentalist, jihadist or a conspiracy theory leech, for I have no qualms in admitting that I undoubtedly am all of those things. And so I shall tell you why I hate Malala sans any inkling of pretention: the absolutely honest and truthful perspective of a true Pakistani.


How much a Pakistani hates someone depends on how easy it is to hate them. And few individuals are easier to hate than Malala Yousafzai.

Here’s a girl, not old enough to have an ID card, taking on Pakistan’s biggest enemy without an iota of fear.

She takes a bullet to her head not fighting for a jingoistic agenda, but for something as universally celebrated as education. For her commendable bravery she gets global acclaim, speaks in front of a global audience at the UN, meets the American president and is pretty much the only positive coming out of this country in recent times.

It seems to be more a tale of inspiration than a recipe for hatred.

So, let’s flip the coin.

Here’s a girl, not old enough to have an ID card, siding with Pakistan’s biggest enemy to defame the nation without an iota of shame. She pretends to take a bullet to her head helping the West propagate their jingoistic agenda under the garb of something as universally celebrated as education.

For her commendable theatrics she gets global acclaim, gets the chance to speak in front of a global audience at the UN, meets the American president and gets to act like the only positive thing coming out of this country in recent times.

Which side of the coin is easier to believe?

Easier, not in terms of being more logical or making more sense, which argument out of the two is easier to digest for an average Pakistani like me?

Do you think it’s easy for me to accept flag bearers of my religion as my enemy? Do you believe that it’s easy for me to accept the fact that a 16-year-old girl fearlessly took a stand against the biggest threat facing this country while men like me were busy being apologetic on the behalf of the “freedom fighters”?

Do you honestly believe that it’s easy for me to accept that a young girl from our neck of the woods, with all the societal handicaps that one can think of, can singlehandedly orchestrate a global rude awakening? The thought rips the bigoted, discriminatory and misogynistic ideals that I’ve grown up with, into tiny little shreds.

How can I accept Malala to be a hero, when her speeches do not have any Islamic or nationalistic agenda? How can I consider her to be my future leader when nothing she says or does imbues a false sense of superiority in me as a Muslim or a Pakistani? How can I accept that a young girl was able to highlight who our actual enemies are, when grown up men in our parliaments are still hell bent on befriending them?

How can I rejoice at Malala’s global achievement when I’ve been taught all my life that a girl’s place is in the kitchen? I just can’t.

The religion I follow is inherently misogynistic. The society I live in is quintessentially patriarchal. And I’m supposed to manifest ideals of gender equality and women empowerment out of the blue?

Why do you think we consider it a million times easier to call Aafia Siddiqui the daughter of Pakistan than Malala Yousafzai? With Aafia there’s a sense of victimhood, with jihad as the cherry on top. That’s what we’d like in our daughters: fragility, vulnerability and the perpetual dependence on one of the male guardians in her life.

And so please answer this: who is easier for me to consider this nation’s daughter, one who I can ostensibly protect from the conspiring agenda of nonbelievers or one that is seen hobnobbing with the nonbelievers?

Give me the name of one female who we have taken seriously as our global representative? Benazir Bhutto? But she was always Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto’s daughter, wasn’t she? How do we trace the illustrious male DNA to justify Malala’s accomplishments?

Do you still not see why instead of going through the hassle of an ideological metamorphosis and purging myself of the ideals I’ve spent all my life with, it’s a million times more convenient to just buy the conspiracy theories? I hate Malala because it’s by far the most convenient choice.

I hate Malala because then I don’t have to look at myself in the mirror.

I hate Malala because then I can keep my head buried in the sand.

I hate Malala because then marrying my daughter off would be my sole responsibility towards her.

I hate Malala because then I don’t have to regret all those times my mother fed me with her own hands while my sister was busy washing the dishes.

I hate Malala because it helps me sleep peacefully, with my sense of superiority very much intact.

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Out of safety concerns, Malala may not return to Pakistan for many years to come. One can only hope that the country's second Nobel laureate won't remain as cut off from her homeland as its first.

By winning the Nobel prize, Malala joins Pakistan’s loneliest club - The Washington Post
And that is a tragedy! Excommunicated from her motherland.

It's a shame that Pakistan has not thought it prudent to at least provide her security so she can return home to the Land of the Pure.
 
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She is a puppet and was used to subdue Imran Khan's successful campaign against Drone strikes.. A menace we are still suffering.
Plus nothing she does is her own act or words..Everything is remotely controlled.
 
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Malala is a citizen of Pakistan and we appreciate her contribution greatly - case closed
A citizen of pakistan that cannot stay in pakistan. Will die in another country and buried there as well. Abdus salam was not even allowed to be buried in Pakistan. Many many years later his coffin was reburied in Pakistan but that grave has been vandalised many times by those that protect the ideological frontiers of Pakistan.
 
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The religion I follow is inherently misogynist.

No, Islam is not a misogynistic religion. By saying so, one's declares himself completely ignorant of the rules of Islam. Misogynist and misogynistic refer to the hatred or mistreatment of women. Whereas in Islam, everything of the sort is NOT ALLOWED, and is punishable.

Ordering women to cover their bodies properly, ordering them to not expose their bodies/voice to strangers is what Islam ORDERS, and this is clearly not misogyny, infact not even a particle of misogyny is there in such rules. And such orders go both ways, Islam also orders men to cover their bodies in a certain way, orders them to give their utmost respect every woman (known & stranger both) and many such orders. As to education, Muslim women are obliged to educate themselves as much as men. The only thing Islam orders is that the environment in learning centers should be such that none of the above mentioned rules are broken. And Islam does'nt order women to stay in the kitchen. But tell me, how would you look on a women whose children are always underfed? If women must not bear the responsibilty of running the kitchen, then should men do so? It means that man must work to earn bread for his family, run the kitchen, do so many other things while women just sit in cosy arm chairs and gossip. Are you even sane?

In case of Malala, one can clearly see what she is portraying.
 
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“Why I HATE Malala Yousafzai” ~ a guest post by Kunwar Khuldune Shahid
Not sure why I am tagged here because I do not hate Malala, in fact I do not hate anybody. I may disagree with somebody, I may disagree with the decision of the Nobel committee but my disagreement cant be equated with hate towards someone. Besides my disagreement is not going to reverse Nobel committee's decision.

I however believe that it is not only the award that gives honor to its winner, it is also the winner who gives prestige to the award. In fact an award only maintains its luster when awarded to well deserving candidates. Nobel peace prize has been won by heroes such as Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela, and Mother Teresa and when I see Malala in that line up, I just don't feel she belongs there.
 
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“Why I HATE Malala Yousafzai” ~ a guest post by Kunwar Khuldune Shahid
November 21, 2013
Over the past few weeks, what with the Nobel hoopla and all, everyone has had something to say or write about Malala Yousafzai.

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The politicians propagated their own agenda, liberal fascists whined about their cause and journalists used the issue to put forward their personal agendas through the debate surrounding the teenager.

Some writers wrote satires that were taken seriously, others wrote serious pieces that weren’t taken seriously and then there were the white man’s burden, brown man’s burden and burdens that came in other colours, being discussed in articles that tried to complicate a debate that has been pretty simple all along.

Now, as I write this piece, what I intend to do is give you a completely straightforward perspective, one that you will not find in any other article written about Malala.

I have no issue being dubbed a misogynist, fundamentalist, jihadist or a conspiracy theory leech, for I have no qualms in admitting that I undoubtedly am all of those things. And so I shall tell you why I hate Malala sans any inkling of pretention: the absolutely honest and truthful perspective of a true Pakistani.


How much a Pakistani hates someone depends on how easy it is to hate them. And few individuals are easier to hate than Malala Yousafzai.

Here’s a girl, not old enough to have an ID card, taking on Pakistan’s biggest enemy without an iota of fear.

She takes a bullet to her head not fighting for a jingoistic agenda, but for something as universally celebrated as education. For her commendable bravery she gets global acclaim, speaks in front of a global audience at the UN, meets the American president and is pretty much the only positive coming out of this country in recent times.

It seems to be more a tale of inspiration than a recipe for hatred.

So, let’s flip the coin.

Here’s a girl, not old enough to have an ID card, siding with Pakistan’s biggest enemy to defame the nation without an iota of shame. She pretends to take a bullet to her head helping the West propagate their jingoistic agenda under the garb of something as universally celebrated as education.

For her commendable theatrics she gets global acclaim, gets the chance to speak in front of a global audience at the UN, meets the American president and gets to act like the only positive thing coming out of this country in recent times.

Which side of the coin is easier to believe?

Easier, not in terms of being more logical or making more sense, which argument out of the two is easier to digest for an average Pakistani like me?

Do you think it’s easy for me to accept flag bearers of my religion as my enemy? Do you believe that it’s easy for me to accept the fact that a 16-year-old girl fearlessly took a stand against the biggest threat facing this country while men like me were busy being apologetic on the behalf of the “freedom fighters”?

Do you honestly believe that it’s easy for me to accept that a young girl from our neck of the woods, with all the societal handicaps that one can think of, can singlehandedly orchestrate a global rude awakening? The thought rips the bigoted, discriminatory and misogynistic ideals that I’ve grown up with, into tiny little shreds.

How can I accept Malala to be a hero, when her speeches do not have any Islamic or nationalistic agenda? How can I consider her to be my future leader when nothing she says or does imbues a false sense of superiority in me as a Muslim or a Pakistani? How can I accept that a young girl was able to highlight who our actual enemies are, when grown up men in our parliaments are still hell bent on befriending them?

How can I rejoice at Malala’s global achievement when I’ve been taught all my life that a girl’s place is in the kitchen? I just can’t.

The religion I follow is inherently misogynistic. The society I live in is quintessentially patriarchal. And I’m supposed to manifest ideals of gender equality and women empowerment out of the blue?

Why do you think we consider it a million times easier to call Aafia Siddiqui the daughter of Pakistan than Malala Yousafzai? With Aafia there’s a sense of victimhood, with jihad as the cherry on top. That’s what we’d like in our daughters: fragility, vulnerability and the perpetual dependence on one of the male guardians in her life.

And so please answer this: who is easier for me to consider this nation’s daughter, one who I can ostensibly protect from the conspiring agenda of nonbelievers or one that is seen hobnobbing with the nonbelievers?

Give me the name of one female who we have taken seriously as our global representative? Benazir Bhutto? But she was always Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto’s daughter, wasn’t she? How do we trace the illustrious male DNA to justify Malala’s accomplishments?

Do you still not see why instead of going through the hassle of an ideological metamorphosis and purging myself of the ideals I’ve spent all my life with, it’s a million times more convenient to just buy the conspiracy theories? I hate Malala because it’s by far the most convenient choice.

I hate Malala because then I don’t have to look at myself in the mirror.

I hate Malala because then I can keep my head buried in the sand.

I hate Malala because then marrying my daughter off would be my sole responsibility towards her.

I hate Malala because then I don’t have to regret all those times my mother fed me with her own hands while my sister was busy washing the dishes.

I hate Malala because it helps me sleep peacefully, with my sense of superiority very much intact.

The religion I follow is inherently misogynistic.
This, right here, shows what the author really is. I've read his other articles. He doesn't understand Islam yet blames it for everything. He is fully anti-Islam, which is why his articles are so full of BS
Don’t blame the Taliban – Kunwar Khuldune Shahid - My Telegraph

I've written a whole, long explanation of why all of his points are wrong, but since it's more of an essay of my own, I'm just going to skip it and cut straight to what my opinion is about all the points he has raised..

In an attempt to look 'open-minded' and 'admit our flaws' this article has completely missed the point about everything. The real truth is, that the people are too confused, there is too much misinformation and too many opinions based on misinformation, you can't just pick up one guy's view of what the "truth" is and apply it to 180 million Pakistanis. This article isn't doing any better either, it's just adding to the mess.

I can't speak on behalf of 180 Million Pakistanis, so let me speak on behalf of myself while trying to explain some of the different views of other Pakistanis (and why they're wrong) about these points.
Hatred of Malala:
I have two main points against Malala,
-The media's unrealistic, exaggerated in some cases and understated in others, portrayal of her.
-Her book, which is more about Malala's father's and Christina Lamb's (co-author) political views than about education. I can fill a book with what's wrong with her book.
In all other points, I fully support Malala, as I have said before multiple times on multiple threads and in detail.

Some Pakistanis refuse to listen to her speeches and dismiss everything as a drama, which I disagree with since Malala also says a lot of good and important things. All these people see is a drama that is making Pakistan look worse than it is. Now, this is true, that it makes Pakistan look worse than it is. The problem is that we can't just dismiss everything as "making us look worse than we really are". We must not ignore legitimate concerns and criticisms.
The Taliban and Freedom Fighters:, the US and the Pakistani military are at fault for not seeing what was wrong in training and equipping tribal extremists to fight the USSR. But then, in the same way, every country that uses proxies is at fault.
The problem in Pakistan is that the people don't see that their own Army made a huge mistake with this. They should see it and they should learn from that mistake.
Some extremely misinformed people think the Taliban are good because they want Islam and are fighting America. They are absolutely wrong and, like I said, misinformed.

Getting rid of terrorism: I am in favour of eliminating terrorism, militants and the Taliban. Just not by bombing and killing them and expecting terrorism to decrease (It actually increases like that). The NICE framework (coined by me, based on Imran Khan's explanation of his ideas) is better and that's what I would support.
Negotiate with those willing to negotiate, remove them from the Terrorism equation
Improve relations with the relatively peaceful people to eliminate the Taliban support base
Conduct military operations against those unwilling to negotiate (such as the Taliban themselves or any hardline supporters)
Ensure that the area is given attention in the long-term to prevent any terrorism issues from arising again.

Pakistani society: It sucks and is full of flaws that make me ashamed of my country and it needs to improve. How will it improve? Education, that's the top priority. Education is required for Pakistan to prosper in the long term. And not just any education, proper education that teaches modern sciences, economics etc properly and teaches Islam to prevent radicaliziation (if people know what Islam really says, they can't be brainwashed by terrorists)
Most of the educated Pakistanis I have met see the flaws in Pakistani society and talk about the uneducated ones as if they're the only ones at fault, while the uneducated ones don't see the flaws at all.

Pakistani and Muslim pride/ Superiority: To some extent, I agree with the author on this. It's funny that Islam discourages pride yet these people are still proud about their Islam. Those who consider themselves superior because they are Muslims are not good Muslims. One's faith is nothing to be proud of. It's one's actions and how much he actually follows that faith which makes someone a better person/

Generally there are two types of Pakistanis, those who are extremely pessimistic about their country and those who are too proud. Sometimes, the same people are both, being proud about the past and being pessimistic about the future.

All of them are wrong. Now, I am not saying we should just die of shame and disappointment in our country but instead we should understand the reality and have hope that we can improve it.


Now, this is all my viewpoint. I have tried to explain some of the main viewpoints of others but like I said before, there are so many opinions and misconceptions and misinformation and opinions based on misinformation and misconception that it's practically impossible to address all of them. There is no way this one Islamophobe can explain the "truth" about why Pakistanis hate Malala. or about anything for that matter.
 
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She is a puppet and was used to subdue Imran Khan's successful campaign against Drone strikes.. A menace we are still suffering.
Plus nothing she does is her own act or words..Everything is remotely controlled.

its wrong to downplay what happened to her but yes its unfortunate that she and her family have allowed themselves to become foreign policy tools, paraded like puppets....

it's also certainly unfortunate that she probably didnt READ the book that Christina Lamb wrote ON HER BEHALF...because in the book there are blatant anti-national statements against the Army...same Army which her family initially spoke highly of - same Army whose doctors saved her life and stabilized her in the first place....and saving a girl with 7.62mm lead lodged in her head is a daunting task

lastly - its also unfrotunate that Marxist/Socialist organizations are giving her a platform...now she's giving statements endorsing marxist political ideology and standing at their podiums

the Nobel Piss prize itself is a symbol of leftist marxism......reserved only for people of those ideals


in the end - all political games
 
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I also had a hard time explaining malala to my friends and even relatives though sadly most of them are struck with Cia agent tag of Malala
 
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Nobel peace prize. Guess who also got it OBAMBA

Tells the value of this piece of shist
 
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those who think she is being used as puppet.. well even if that is true, its not her fault.
She has never asked for drone strike.. she has talked about girl child education all the time..
I dont see how one can opppose that.
 
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