MAKS 2013.......indian angle

[Daedalus]

its a good gen 4.....nothing more......................su-35 could be called gen 4++,not this

Don't know much about the 29K's, so can't debate with you on that.

its a good gen 4.....nothing more......................su-35 could be called gen 4++,not this

Don't know much about the 29K's, so can't debate with you on that.

 

[he-man]

Don't know much about the 29K's, so can't debate with you on that.



Don't know much about the 29K's, so can't debate with you on that.

i have posted all relevant details here

http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian-defence/274502-russia-deliver-six-mig-29k-warplanes-india.html

 

[he-man]

@Dillinger @Abingdonboy @vostok @Gessler @anant_s
man this 101-ks-n pod is a disturbing thing

 

[he-man]

@Dillinger @Abingdonboy @vostok @Gessler @anant_s
man this 101-ks-n pod is a disturbing thing

this is fro the paralay.com

OEIS, production UOMZ (Yekaterinburg).

Opto-electronic integrated system (OEIS) aircraft product 101KS consists of six elements:

101 KS-0 (D - Defensive) - a system of anti-IR seeker

101 KC-B (B - air) - Quantum optical radar system

101 KC-Y (Y - ultra-violet) - Optical system for issuing HQ to COP-O

101 KC-H (H - terrestrial) - suspended container sighting
the culprit..

If true then whats the use of this??It will just have a rcs of .5 or so??

 

[he-man]

@Arzamas 16

 

[anant_s]

this is fro the paralay.com

OEIS, production UOMZ (Yekaterinburg).

Opto-electronic integrated system (OEIS) aircraft product 101KS consists of six elements:

101 KS-0 (D - Defensive) - a system of anti-IR seeker

101 KC-B (B - air) - Quantum optical radar system

101 KC-Y (Y - ultra-violet) - Optical system for issuing HQ to COP-O

101 KC-H (H - terrestrial) - suspended container sighting
the culprit..

If true then whats the use of this??It will just have a rcs of .5 or so??

Some more information on this page

 

[he-man]

Some more information on this page

But this is really bad man..................stealth is just secondary here

 

[he-man]

more goodies

1)helmet mounted display system
"They are integrating a helmet mounted display early in the process. The dual visor approach, where there is an inner visor for the display, and an outer one for glare and environmental protection."

2)stealth coating on engine itself!!
"They will be applying radar absorbent material to the spinner and inlet guide vanes. "

"http://i.imgur.com/dhWuhtW.jpg
@Abingdonboy @Dillinger @Flamingo @Umair Nawaz(my brother)

 

[Dillinger]

more goodies

1)helmet mounted display system
"They are integrating a helmet mounted display early in the process. The dual visor approach, where there is an inner visor for the display, and an outer one for glare and environmental protection."

2)stealth coating on engine itself!!
"They will be applying radar absorbent material to the spinner and inlet guide vanes. "

"http://i.imgur.com/dhWuhtW.jpg
@Abingdonboy @Dillinger @Flamingo @Umair Nawaz(my brother)

If you're worried about the lack of the much fantasized about "S-duct" then you need not worry- that is ONE way among many to achieve LO/VLO performance. The deciding factor is this case is the placement of the engine inlets.

Regardless the Pak-Fa was not designed with the extremely stringent VLO attributes as in the case of the Raptor.

The problem persists and will continue to persist most probably in the aft fuselage which has been left "unattended to" for some curious reason- although it can be treated with relatively less effort up to the point till which the the horizontal stabilizers will allow- which is pretty much right up to the nozzles- anything beyond that is impossible and will require major re-designing which is not feasible. Even the former modifications are improbable and depend entirely upon the IAF's demands and requirements.

 

[he-man]

If you're worried about the lack of the much fantasized about "S-duct" then you need not worry- that is ONE way among many to achieve LO/VLO performance. The deciding factor is this case is the placement of the engine inlets.

Regardless the Pak-Fa was not designed with the extremely stringent VLO attributes as in the case of the Raptor.

The problem persists and will continue to persist most probably in the aft fuselage which has been left "unattended to" for some curious reason- although it can be treated with relatively less effort up to the point till which the the horizontal stabilizers will allow- which is pretty much right up to the nozzles- anything beyond that is impossible and will require major re-designing which is not feasible. Even the former modifications are improbable and depend entirely upon the IAF's demands and requirements.

i am only worried about the suspended pod.............101-ks-n

go to maks 2013 page for close ups(exclusive)

 

[Abingdonboy]

more goodies

1)helmet mounted display system
"They are integrating a helmet mounted display early in the process. The dual visor approach, where there is an inner visor for the display, and an outer one for glare and environmental protection."

2)stealth coating on engine itself!!
"They will be applying radar absorbent material to the spinner and inlet guide vanes. "

"http://i.imgur.com/dhWuhtW.jpg
@Abingdonboy @Dillinger @Flamingo @Umair Nawaz(my brother)

So the HMDS that will be on the PAK-FA has emerged. Looking for more details on this as I'm certain the IAF have no issues with intergrating the TOPSIGHT-I (that will be present on most IAF combat a/c by 2020) or an improved Thales/Samtal design.

 

[he-man]

So the HMDS that will be on the PAK-FA has emerged. Looking for more details on this as I'm certain the IAF have no issues with intergrating the TOPSIGHT-I (that will be present on most IAF combat a/c by 2020) or an improved Thales/Samtal design.

go to
http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian-defence/275107-happy-times-iaf-ahead-options-galore.html

for a new type of radar by phazotron

 

[Dillinger]

i am only worried about the suspended pod.............101-ks-n

go to maks 2013 page for close ups(exclusive)

Its been around for longer than that. It cannot be helped, the lack of an EOTS will not affect the ability of the PAK-FA to engage in SEAD/DEAD ops with anti-radiation weapons or Anti shipping operations but it will hamper the usage of LGBs and PGMs in a pure earth moving role. Other than that IF stand-off range ALCMs are designed to be internally carried and used to target large C2, logistics and transport nodes even that will not be hampered.

 

[he-man]

Its been around for longer than that. It cannot be helped, the lack of an EOTS will not affect the ability of the PAK-FA to engage in SEAD/DEAD ops with anti-radiation weapons or Anti shipping operations but it will hamper the usage of LGBs and PGMs in a pure earth moving role. Other than that IF stand-off range ALCMs are designed to be internally carried and used to target large C2, logistics and transport nodes even that will not be hampered.

nana.........these are the recent 1 day old picks


i agree most of this resembles maks 2011

but this radar design is new

http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian-defence/275107-happy-times-iaf-ahead-options-galore.html

 

[Dillinger]

nana.........these are the recent 1 day old picks


i agree most of this resembles maks 2011

but this radar design is new

http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian-defence/275107-happy-times-iaf-ahead-options-galore.html

I was referring to the pod not its recent snaps.

Its an evolutionary process- trying to figure out where its going to end up getting to is futile.

Lets wait and see.