Major General Haj Qassem Soleimani among Time's 100 most influential figures

[IranDefence]

They have Khatam conglomerate ... no need of these Hollywood Ideas for supplying money ! These accusation were supposed to be for Hezbollah .... the one that is benefiting from drugs is US in Afg ... check the statistics of poppy cultivation

And do you have any idea how many other IRGC commanders are sitting in Iran involved in the smuggling of tobacco, alcohol and other products to make money, or trying to influence politics, or squash any dissent? Go reread my original post. As long as commanders do their job of defending their country, they are respected by Iranian people. If they try to use their position to become rich or powerful, then they are not. Simple as that.

 

[SubWater]

I want my selfie with General

 

[garshasp]

I believe you are mistaking your senior officers in Mossad/MI6 with IRGC commanders!

Typical tactic that is used by IR hardliners, accuse people you don't agree with as being Mossad/MI6...why not mention CIA and DGSE too?...Even Mousavi, Karroubi, and Khatami who even served in IR were later accused of being MI6 or CIA or whatever, this tactic is getting old my friend.

They have Khatam conglomerate ... no need of these Hollywood Ideas for supplying money ! These accusation were supposed to be for Hezbollah .... the one that is benefiting from drugs is US in Afg ... check the statistics of poppy cultivation

Yes Khatam firm and others provide official funding for IRGC activities which is not a problem, the problem is SOME IRGC commanders involved in smuggling or trying to influence politics etc. for their own PERSONAL benefit. It is quite well known, Ahmadinejad mentioned it in 2011 and there are various tapes. But again, the keywords: some, and personal benefit. Of course it doesn't apply to the organization as a whole or the majority of the soldiers who are defending Iran.

Anyway, this thread is about Gen. Soleimani who has been bravely fighting IS and extremists and staying out of politics, all of which I salud him for. I do not want to derail it.

 

[mohsen]

Typical tactic that is used by IR hardliners, accuse people you don't agree with as being Mossad/MI6...why not mention CIA and DGSE too?...Even Mousavi, Karroubi, and Khatami who even served in IR were later accused of being MI6 or CIA or whatever, this tactic is getting old my friend.

why you don't bring a single evidence for your B.S?

Yes, There Are Paid Government Trolls On Social Media, Blogs, Forums And Websites

your tactics are outdated.

 

[garshasp]

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1) Evidence.

The IRGC is Iran's chief smuggler. In the early 2000s, Mehdi Karroubi, the former speaker of parliament, complained about unauthorized ports under IRGC control that are used to smuggle goods. Ahmadinejad, who is Karroubi's arch politically enemy, also called the IRGC "our smuggler brothers".

At the time, the president attended a conference on the prevention of smuggling and illegal foreign currency trade, saying, “Between 55 to 60 billion cigarettes are used in Iran, which is worth about 2 trillion tomans [at the time $2 billion]. Such numbers would tempt smugglers from all around the world, let alone our own dear smuggler brothers!”

In Iran, most experts agreed that the term “smuggler brothers” was a reference to Sepah Commanders. Ahmadinejad also said that the “smuggler brothers” were using the navy docks in southern Iran to conduct their business.

I cannot post the links since I am new member, but just google it.

Those are comments of Mr. Karroubi, former head of Parliament, and Mr. Ahmadinejad, former President that supposedly won with biggest margin in Iranian history. Hardliners liked Ahmadinejad, until he opened his mouth against them!

Some of the influence into politics and elections is even more evident, I am not going to waste my time, if you know Iranian politics at all you will know.

As I said previously, my original comment was to salud Gen. Soleimani, and I support brave Sepah soldiers who are defending Iran, I just dont support corruption, simple as that. Strange that I'm being attacked for that.

2)
Ok, so now I'm a paid troll, just 1 hour ago, I was MI6 or Mossad. I just provided facts in 1), so now your turn, prove that I am such a thing. Also, how do I know YOU are not a paid government spy or "paid troll"? It goes both ways brother. The thing is I made a small comment, some decided to take it out of proportion and argued against it, but you decided instead of arguing, to attack me personally...

 

[garshasp]

^^^


most experts aka BBC and the rest of west propaganda tools.

I'm still waiting for your evidence Mr troll.

and as if today anybody doubts that people like Karrubi became a full puppet of Netanyahu.

Nice, instead of arguing with me regarding the evidence, you insult me once again. Looks like I got demoted, I went from MI6 agent to just "Mr Troll"... I just remembered, hardliners recently accused Ahmadinejad of being Mi6 agent too! With that logic, I guess majority of Iranian population is either MI6 agent or Netanyahu puppet or trolls.

If you want to have a civilized discussion with me brother, let me know . If you want to use good old Mesbah Yazdi hardliner tactics of insulting and accusing everyone you disagree with, I won't waste my time.

 

[garshasp]

^^^
trolls are under command of intelligence services, so no demotion!
you just keep referring to your BBC (MI6 propaganda tool).
what you call civilized discussion, I call propaganda of Iran's enemies and of course as I said, everyone's side is obvious here.

I'll let the members judge the who real troll is based on what has been said in this thread. I made arguments and provided evidence, you simply accused and insulted me. Also, those quotes can be found on news publications that operate inside Iran as well, there are even videos of it. The comments of former president Ahmadinejad was so obvious and serious that some IRG commanders directly responded to it. Don't pretend like you don't know.

Oh so now I'm 100% MI6? What happened to Mossad? Why not CIA? "my BBC" when my facts were from other news sites...this is laughable but also sad how you treat your Iranian brothers. Iran has outside enemies for sure, but also internal enemies, people who aren't civil and don't respect difference of opinion!

 

[Suff Shikan]

And the selfboasting and chest thumping of persians begin, despite the fact that they are the sponsor of dirty game played in ME.

 

[mohsen]

And the selfboasting and chest thumping of persians begin, despite the fact that they are the sponsor of dirty game played in ME.

what is dirty game?
is it because we fight against wahhabi terrorists and suicide bombers who execute women and children for being shiah? fight against the terrorist organizations who have been funded and supported by U.S/Israel and and some arab monarchies. fight against the terrorists who want to destroy our holy sites?
because we don't support the Saudi child killers in their invasion against Yemen? because we don't support the Bahrain's dictator in suppressing the protests? because we are the only supporters of resistance groups against zionist's occupation?
perhaps the meaning of good and bad has changed in your dictionary.

 

[Serpentine]

For all the wrong reasons.

From your perspective bro.

For us Iranians, for all the right reasons.

 

[Suff Shikan]

what is dirty game?
is it because we fight against wahhabi terrorists and suicide bombers who execute women and children for being shiah? fight against the terrorist organizations who have been funded and supported by U.S/Israel and and some arab monarchies. fight against the terrorists who want to destroy our holy sites?
because we don't support the Saudi child killers in their invasion against Yemen? because we don't support the Bahrain's dictator in suppressing the protests? because we are the only supporters of resistance groups against zionist's occupation?
perhaps the meaning of good and bad has changed in your dictionary.

Oh 'palleeeeezzz' , dont give us this shit, persians supported massacre of 60000+ civilians under dictatorship of bashar al khanzeer, yet proclaim themselves of saviour of humanity.

 

[mohsen]

Oh 'palleeeeezzz' , dont give us this shit, persians supported massacre of 60000+ civilians under dictatorship of bashar al khanzeer, yet proclaim themselves of saviour of humanity.

says the terrorists and their founders. the same ones who once were giving chemical weapons to Iraq dictator "saddam" to use it against Iranian and even his own people.
murders claim to be the righteous guys!

 

[Suff Shikan]

says the terrorists and their founders. the same ones who once were giving chemical weapons to Iraq dictator "saddam" to use it against Iranian and even his own people.
murders claim to be the righteous guys!

60000+ murders cannot be justified with example of Saddam Hussain shaheed, you and ur puppet bashar al khanzeer is 100 times more than saddam. Justifying 60000 murders is in itself a shame and only persian *** loving biggot can sink this lower.

 

[mohsen]

60000+ murders cannot be justified with example of Saddam Hussain shaheed, you and ur puppet bashar al khanzeer is 100 times more than saddam. Justifying 60000 murders is in itself a shame and only persian *** loving biggot can sink this lower.

60000 or 6000000, the question is who has killed them.
only terrorists and their founders (with a higher killing record rate) accuse Bashar Asad.

shame is on those who are on the same side of these terrorists and their founders. but of course nothing else is expected from those who call a blood thirsty war criminal like Saddam Hussain as shaheed!

 

[Suff Shikan]

60000 or 6000000, the question is who has killed them.
only terrorists and their founders (with a higher killing record rate) accuse Bashar Asad.

shame is on those who are on the same side of these terrorists and their founders.

ofcourse, Bashar al Khanzeer,HezbulShiatan, and their founders.