'Made in India' will fail...

[Great Sachin]

Recently I attended a conference and one of the speaker said "The irony is India being democracy is totally unpredictable whereas China being a single party state is highly predictable" . Companies prefer predictable rather than unpredictable.

Dont forget...USA, Germany, Japan, France etc all are democracy......

 

[Hindustani78]

Nothing that would make India the next 'factory of the world'......go look at the passengers flying in and out of China vs India. Go look at the figures of Heavy Industries production of China vs India. Go look at the figures of containers being shipped from/to China vs India.
Some of the largest banks in the world are Chinese state owned...so are the utilities...so are the airports....cities....sea ports....etc etc

The reason i do this India vs China is because both have similar ambitions and both have similar human resources.

India Government has always think in terms of lifting the living standards of Indian citizens even now the same policy have been adopted. Indian domestic market is growing and along with the numbers of Middle class Indians who are spending thier money within the country. Indian Establishment is making things to come within the country.

 

[livingdead]

There is no fail or pass in this. The current govt wants to imporve our industrial output and balance the economy in favour of manufacturing. We will see how much they succeed after 5 years.
We may not be the manufacturing destination after 5 years, but any effort to balance the economy is good, and helpful.

 

[Srinivas]

It is "Make in India" after that comes "Made in India" and Developed and patented in India !

Don't loose sleep over this, accept this fact and move on ....

 

[wiseone2]

China as manufacturing powerhouse will stay at least another 20 years. Its superior infrastructure, abundant energy supply to ensure factories will run 24/7 and less likely to face blackout compare to many ASEAN and South Asia countries. All this will offset the higher wages.

Manufacturing is being automated. Robots will send a lot of jobs back to USA

 

[by78]

Dont forget...USA, Germany, Japan, France etc all are democracy......

All of them became rich and industrialized first BEFORE becoming democracies in the modern sense (i.e. universal suffrage).

Before USA and France industrialized, less than 20% of the population in each country could vote. In America, for example, to be able to vote, you must be White male who owns a certain amount of property. Most of the population never stood a chance of being qualified to vote.

The fact is that NO country has ever become rich and industrialized by first becoming a modern democracy with universal suffrage.

All industrialized high-income economies became modern democracies (with universal suffrage) AFTER they have become rich.

India is attempting something unnatural, and it will fail.

 

[Great Sachin]

All of them became rich and industrialized first BEFORE becoming democracies in the modern sense (i.e. universal suffrage).

Before USA and France industrialized, less than 20% of the population in each country could vote. In America, for example, to be able to vote, you must be White male who owns a certain amount of property. Most of the population never stood a chance of being qualified to vote.

The fact is that NO country has ever become rich and industrialized by first becoming a modern democracy with universal suffrage.

All industrialized high-income economies became modern democracies (with universal suffrage) AFTER they have become rich.

India is attempting something unnatural, and it will fail.

So China's future is democracy also

 

[by78]

So China's future is democracy also

It will certainly become more democratic, along the lines of Singapore.

India, on the other hand, will descend into chaos and politically balkanize due to overpopulation, chronic high unemployment and underemployment, and widespread social unrest.

India will very likely be the largest failed state in human history.

 

[livingdead]

It will certainly become more democratic, along the lines of Singapore.

India, on the other hand, will descend into chaos and politically balkanize due to overpopulation, chronic high unemployment and underemployment, and widespread social unrest.

India will very likely be the largest failed state in human history.

people have been waiting for that... for over 65 years... thats what brits said... it wont work.

 

[by78]

people have been waiting for that... for over 65 years... thats what brits said... it wont work.

It's still early.

The problem with Indians is that they talk too much. Social unrest and political balkanization requires lots of action, and Indians are too lazy for that right now.

BUT, as problems pile up and population becomes too large, India will descend into complete chaos. It's only a matter of time.

Remember, India created only 3 million full-time jobs in the past 10 years. With 12 million entering the job market each year from now until 2035, there is no way India can provide employment for them all. Young men with no jobs and no future is a recipe for disaster. Already we are seeing a huge increase of rapes...

 

[livingdead]

It's still early.

The problem with Indians is that they talk too much. Social unrest and political balkanization requires lots of action, and Indians are too lazy for that right now.

BUT, as problems pile up and population becomes too large, India will descend into complete chaos. It's only a matter of time.

Remember, India created only 3 million full-time jobs in the past 10 years. With 12 million entering the job market each year, there is no way India can provide employment for them all. Young men with no jobs and no future is a recipe for disaster. Already we are seeing a huge increase of rapes...

hmm..chinese bot detected...
sorry carry on..

 

[SamantK]

Kid, the world doesn't revolve around 'could've, would've, should've'.......only Indians do. About to do this about to do that. Tell me, in the past 20 years of Asian growth, have you ever come across Chinese boasting that we are building this and that? nOpe......because they prove it. Neither did Japan, Taiwan, Korea, Singapore or Hong Kong. They got what needed to be done. Only from India we hear.......we will do this and do that.......they've been doing that for the past 67 years.

Cant be helped if you are obsessed with India and the news coming out of it. Pity your outlook is limited to your sworn enemy. In all spheres you try only to compete with us, says a lot about you guys.

Nothing that would make India the next 'factory of the world'......go look at the passengers flying in and out of China vs India. Go look at the figures of Heavy Industries production of China vs India. Go look at the figures of containers being shipped from/to China vs India.
Some of the largest banks in the world are Chinese state owned...so are the utilities...so are the airports....cities....sea ports....etc etc

The reason i do this India vs China is because both have similar ambitions and both have similar human resources.

But both dont have the same form of govt. where whole villages were demolished just for a factory or road. In a democracy it takes time, we are behind China and I don't see why the Make In India is a threat/competition to China or for all your long posts to Pakistan.

We have improved our democratic processes, now the rule of law is better felt. It does count for something for us Indians, does not matter what a Pakistani says.

 

[by78]

hmm..chinese bot detected...
sorry carry on..

My ethnicity and nationality has no bearing on India's insurmountable problems. If I tell you that 60% of Indians have no access to toilets, does my ethnicity make that figure untrue?

Of course, Indians are very good at burying their heads in the sand. This is why India is so backward: you can't improve your country if you refuse to see your problems.

 

[livingdead]

My ethnicity and nationality has no bearing on India's insurmountable problems. If I tell you that 60% of Indians have no access to toilets, does my ethnicity make that figure untrue?

Of course, Indians are very good at burying their heads in the sand. This is why India is so backward: you can't improve your country if you refuse to see your problems.

I know more about problems of my country than people who know info via news media and internet, and have vested interest in what they say. Its like a random israeli dude telling 'truth' about iran.
Anyway.. I have a policy not engaging with chinese member here on pdf, so sorry about that. Do not expect a reply from me please.

 

[maniac@666]

Kid, the world doesn't revolve around 'could've, would've, should've'.......only Indians do. About to do this about to do that. Tell me, in the past 20 years of Asian growth, have you ever come across Chinese boasting that we are building this and that? nOpe......because they prove it. Neither did Japan, Taiwan, Korea, Singapore or Hong Kong. They got what needed to be done. Only from India we hear.......we will do this and do that.......they've been doing that for the past 67 years.



Nothing that would make India the next 'factory of the world'......go look at the passengers flying in and out of China vs India. Go look at the figures of Heavy Industries production of China vs India. Go look at the figures of containers being shipped from/to China vs India.
Some of the largest banks in the world are Chinese state owned...so are the utilities...so are the airports....cities....sea ports....etc etc

The reason i do this India vs China is because both have similar ambitions and both have similar human resources.

yes,the world is certainly revolving around india,presently at this time,you are only envious ,but the but hurt pakistanis like you are delusional thinking that.world certainly revolves around india more than pakistan and that's your problem.you can't digest india's success.atleast we can say could've, would've, should've,you are not even entitled say that,you are sinking but we are rising.don't tell us chinese never boast, this forum is guarantee to that.,still better than you in all aspects.you are anal list better than analyst.we will grow on our own pace ,rather you think about yourself as you are in deep shit and there is no respite for you in coming decade,save yourself from failed nation index.for saying this don't give me negative rating.our ambition are regional not global,so far we are doing good.people like you is the sole reason we hate each other.

hmm..chinese bot detected...
sorry carry on..

no, not chinese bot, but hybrid chinese pakistani bot.we are thorn's with rose's to them.