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SOURCE: SP’s Special Correspondent

The Indian Navy is waiting with baited breath for this system, and finally there could be good news. The Indo-Israeli long-range surface-to-air missile (LR-SAM) programme will take a big leap forward this month with the first fully integrated test to be conducted in Israel in the presence of officials from the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) as well as IAI.

While the LR-SAM (Called Barak 8 in Israel) was first tested in 2010, it has undergone a phased series of trials that have included unguided firings, systems tests, simulated tests, navigation tests and endgame engagement trials, all with mixed degrees of success. This month’s test is understood to be the first in which the end user configuration will be tried for the first time. Recent reports in the Israeli media suggest that Israel will be looking to integrate the LR-SAM on its Sa’ar 5-class corvettes principally based on a threat perception from Russian-built Yakhont anti-ship missiles deployed by Syria. It is known, however, that the missile system is not operational yet, and that integration may be towards testing routines rather than deployment.



According to available information, the LR-SAM onboard frontline Indian vessels, will be housed in four vertical launch units (VLUs), each housing eight missiles, on each of the three Project-15A destroyers and seven Project-17A stealth frigates. The combat suites of both vessel classes will be built to operate with the Elta EL/M-2248 MF-STAR In 2010, DRDO scientists visited Israel for the missile’s first test flight. The dual-pulse smokeless solid rocket motor propelled missile is being built with an effective range of 70-km and a ceiling of 16-km.

The missile’s high agility is being provided by a tungsten jet vane system for thrust vector control and a highly evolved electro-pneumatic control actuation system. Following fresh interest evinced by the Indian Air Force (IAF) and the Indian Army, the dual-mode guided weapon (GPS + data link for midcourse guidance/seeker for terminal homing) will be deployable on mobile launchers as well. The weapon system can engage 12 targets with 24 missiles. It is this ground-launched variant that has been most visible at defence exhibitions around the world in the last two years.

While DRDO labs produce the propulsion rocket system, thrust vector system and certain other components, Israel builds the heart of the LR-SAM—the seeker, endgame avionics and electronics, technologies that have independently matured in India in the AAD and Akash programmes. With a 70-km range, the LR-SAM is likely to be fielded to the militaries of Israel and India in the next two years. It will begin by arming the Project 17(A) frigates and the Vikramaditya aircraft carrier.
 
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Is it me or only 32 lrsam is on a bit lower side??
compare that with 48 vls 052c and 64 vls for 052d destroyers and they are hq-9 missiles with range of upto 200 km

HQ-9 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hq-9 range is only against aircraft,range against cruise missiles is 15-25km.It also also bad engagement envelope and ill suited to engage sea skimmers.Barak-8 is specially designed for action against sea skimmers.

As for VLS cells our kolkata class destroyers are supposedly to have a mix of barak-8 and barak-1 missiles.Total number of vls cells is 48 or 64 i think.They are 16 cell VLS.
 
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Hq-9 range is only against aircraft,range against cruise missiles is 15-25km.It also also bad engagement envelope and ill suited to engage sea skimmers.Barak-8 is specially designed for action against sea skimmers.

As for VLS cells our kolkata class destroyers are supposedly to have a mix of barak-8 and barak-1 missiles.Total number of vls cells is 48 or 64 i think.They are 16 cell VLS.

hmm thats reassuring man........anyways waiting for the test with fingers crossed
 
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SOURCE: SP’s Special Correspondent

The Indian Navy is waiting with baited breath for this system, and finally there could be good news. The Indo-Israeli long-range surface-to-air missile (LR-SAM) programme will take a big leap forward this month with the first fully integrated test to be conducted in Israel in the presence of officials from the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) as well as IAI.

While the LR-SAM (Called Barak 8 in Israel) was first tested in 2010, it has undergone a phased series of trials that have included unguided firings, systems tests, simulated tests, navigation tests and endgame engagement trials, all with mixed degrees of success. This month’s test is understood to be the first in which the end user configuration will be tried for the first time. Recent reports in the Israeli media suggest that Israel will be looking to integrate the LR-SAM on its Sa’ar 5-class corvettes principally based on a threat perception from Russian-built Yakhont anti-ship missiles deployed by Syria. It is known, however, that the missile system is not operational yet, and that integration may be towards testing routines rather than deployment.



According to available information, the LR-SAM onboard frontline Indian vessels, will be housed in four vertical launch units (VLUs), each housing eight missiles, on each of the three Project-15A destroyers and seven Project-17A stealth frigates. The combat suites of both vessel classes will be built to operate with the Elta EL/M-2248 MF-STAR In 2010, DRDO scientists visited Israel for the missile’s first test flight. The dual-pulse smokeless solid rocket motor propelled missile is being built with an effective range of 70-km and a ceiling of 16-km.

The missile’s high agility is being provided by a tungsten jet vane system for thrust vector control and a highly evolved electro-pneumatic control actuation system. Following fresh interest evinced by the Indian Air Force (IAF) and the Indian Army, the dual-mode guided weapon (GPS + data link for midcourse guidance/seeker for terminal homing) will be deployable on mobile launchers as well. The weapon system can engage 12 targets with 24 missiles. It is this ground-launched variant that has been most visible at defence exhibitions around the world in the last two years.

While DRDO labs produce the propulsion rocket system, thrust vector system and certain other components, Israel builds the heart of the LR-SAM—the seeker, endgame avionics and electronics, technologies that have independently matured in India in the AAD and Akash programmes. With a 70-km range, the LR-SAM is likely to be fielded to the militaries of Israel and India in the next two years. It will begin by arming the Project 17(A) frigates and the Vikramaditya aircraft carrier.

Does this mean the P15A is going to be delayed until this missile is fully tested and ready?
 
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Does this mean the P15A is going to be delayed until this missile is fully tested and ready?

Project 15A already been delayed because of this missile. It was to be inducted in 2013. Now it will be inducted only on 2014.
 
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Project 15A already been delayed because of this missile. It was to be inducted in 2013. Now it will be inducted only on 2014.

That means the LR-SAM will go from testing to service within one year. Are you sure about this? I think 2015 would be more realistic, don't you think?
 
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That means the LR-SAM will go from testing to service within one year. Are you sure about this? I think 2015 would be more realistic, don't you think?

Things look like they sorted out all the problems. You can see more tests of LR-SAM this year. We are going to induct the 1st of the kolkata class destroyer next year with this SAM.
 
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Though a big leap in terms of capabilities for India, still 70kms is ridiculously low when compared to the needs of the Navy.

Considering that IN would be facing massed volleys of AShM's acquired by Pakistan or China, we need a minimum of 150kms effective range of our Naval SAM systems.
 
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Is it me or only 32 lrsam is on a bit lower side??
compare that with 48 vls 052c and 64 vls for 052d destroyers and they are hq-9 missiles with range of upto 200 km

HQ-9 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

:hitwall: :hang2:

In addition to its land-based deployments, the HQ-9 has been recently modified to complement China’s burgeoning naval forces. The People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) has outfitted two Type 052C destroyers with naval variants of the HQ-9, estimated to have a range of 65 nautical miles. Each Type 052C destroyer (similar to the U.S. Aegis destroyer) has six vertical launchers carrying approximately 36 missiles, as well as a phased-array radar system.

65 * 1.6 = 104KM

LR - SAM = 120KM.

Paaji whisky kaam mara karo. :woot: :girl_wacko:

HongQi-9 (HQ-9) | Missile ThreatMissile Threat
 
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:hitwall: :hang2:

In addition to its land-based deployments, the HQ-9 has been recently modified to complement China’s burgeoning naval forces. The People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) has outfitted two Type 052C destroyers with naval variants of the HQ-9, estimated to have a range of 65 nautical miles. Each Type 052C destroyer (similar to the U.S. Aegis destroyer) has six vertical launchers carrying approximately 36 missiles, as well as a phased-array radar system.

65 * 1.6 = 104KM

LR - SAM = 120KM.

Paaji whisky kaam mara karo. :woot: :girl_wacko:

HongQi-9 (HQ-9) | Missile ThreatMissile Threat

The LRSAM intended for IN is only 70km for now.

Is it me or only 32 lrsam is on a bit lower side??
compare that with 48 vls 052c and 64 vls for 052d destroyers and they are hq-9 missiles with range of upto 200 km

HQ-9 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

P15A carries 48 LRSAM, not 32.

HQ-9 is similar in role and type to the Russian S-300V, it's range may help it against high-flying aircraft,
but not of much use against low-flying attack aircraft w/ BrahMos or sea-skimming cruise missiles.

While LRSAM is similar to SM-3 and/or Aster SAMs, if I was sitting on a DDG and have to select a defense
system, I'd take the LRSAM/Aster type missiles any day - they beat these HQ-9/S-300 type missiles
hands down.
 
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