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Look at the firearms siezed today!

there is no Famas or SA 80 in these, no US made weapon in the photo i have seen these weapons all are Type 97 - just different variants -- one is with Carry handle and one comes with rail on top --- the Green camo version is Type 97 too, just shorter barrel
the last one as you said is 74 variant and CQ-a
My Take

From far side of the table

AK-74M - Most ex Soviet Bloc use these type of rifle, including Afghanistan
SA-80 (Green Camo version) the tigger guard give away.
FAMAS - Not too sure, but the mag well and the barrel looks like a FAMAS[Edit:: Not Likely FAMAS]
QBZ-97 - Quite sure it is QBZ-97 as the picture show two build in handle above mag well, only QBZ-97 and another Shotgun have a Build in handle like that. Plus QBZ-97 was used by Pakistani themselves.[Edit:: Confirm it is QBZ-97]
M4 - Duh...

A closer look on the last 3 weapons here

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/photo/2016-01/27/c_135051228.htm
 
there is no Famas or SA 80 in these, no US made weapon in the photo i have seen these weapons all are Type 97 - just different variants -- one is with Carry handle and one comes with rail on top --- the Green camo version is Type 97 too, just shorter barrel
the last one as you said is 74 variant and CQ-a

meh, I tried, but any who, I only saw one close up picture on the first 3, oh well...
 
meh, I tried, but any who, I only saw one close up picture on the first 3, oh well...
if i hadn't seen these then i would have guessed the same as you, as we are getting few weapons in our market in past 1 year - espcially for .223 --- some Candian makes, Ukranian Pro Arms MK3, chinese, Russian AK variants, Sig , all are in the market- imported legally
 
Bloody hell!! Our enemies are spending serious money to destabilize Pakistan, but does the government care?
 
hahahaha -- comments here are hilarious ----
@Horus @Zarvan @RAMPAGE @Ammara Chaudhry @Talwar e Pakistan @Jango & others the the holographic sights are chinese knock offs, easily procureable from the local market --- nothing sophisticated about it

The M4 in question is basically CQ-A (chinese M4 by Norinco) this is Semi Auto, our market has been flooded with these since .223 / 5.56 was made NPB in 2013 to date --- one can buy this for 130k on NPB license (as per Rawalpindi market)

The ones in Tan color again are chinese .223 called Type 97 - a civilian version of QBZ 95
this is bulpup and again is Semi Auto --

these are available in market for 200K

most probably this was a shipment being smuggled out to Terrorists as Licenses are not being issued by Govt. so Dealers got to make their living one or another way


last one is Saiga - .223 or 5.45 as both are in the market these days

Edit: going by the trend and amount 5.56 nato rounds in market and in Afghanistan - my guess its .223
Thanks for saving us from self humiliation...............:D
 
Heavy weapons and ammunition were seized today at Peshawar after soldiers raided suspected militants. From the looks of it - it is unlikely these are clones, nearly all TTP infrastructure has been destroyed and the remaining weapon factories are not capable of producing something like this.

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Those are US standard issue carbines. The markings also are typical of US law enforcement. Not hard to guess where they got from. One of the containers got hijacked on the way from Karachi to Afghanistan.

Well funds for these came from somewhere ---
Free maal hai woh, most likely.

All these went "missing" when the the US was using Pakistan to truck weapons to Afghanistan. Billions were stolen by the Pakistan army and their favorite creatures. Hundred of trucks full to the brim with all sorts weapons were "liberated" by hijacking these trucks on Pakistani roads and shared out with outfits that were in "favour" with GCHQ. GCHQ also took its cut.
It took the US 2 years to realize they were being systematically milked by GCHQ and the very forces they were fighting in Afghanistan.
On paper, US is no longer using Pakistani territory to transport military supplies. Actually this is true for quite some time now. At least 3 years.

Sorry for jumping to conclusion. I agree with people who are saying that most may be Chinese knockoffs. After all if they can copy the guns, they can copy the markings as well. :D
 
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Foreign funded arms, and the incompetent Afghan military, who sell their assault rifles for a quick buck or a few ounces of heroin.
It couldnt be the ANA - these rifles look fresh out of the factory.

Those are US standard issue carbines. The markings also are typical of US law enforcement. Not hard to guess where they got from. One of the containers got hijacked on the way from Karachi to Afghanistan.


Free maal hai woh, most likely.


On paper, US is no longer using Pakistani territory to transport military supplies. Actually this is true for quite some time now. At least 3 years.

Sorry for jumping to conclusion. I agree with people who are saying that most may be Chinese knockoffs. After all if they can copy the guns, they can copy the markings as well. :D
1: It has been years since containers passed through Pakistan and I'm pretty sure these guns if were from NATO would've been used during the peak of the war. Taliban were in dire need of weapons and ammunition - I'm pretty sure they wouldnt have store them.

2: Where exactly are they going to get 'Chinese knockoffs'? - they can make and copy simple rifles like the Ak-47, but nothing like this especially when their assets were bombed 10 feet under ground by Operation Zarb e Azb.
 
It couldnt be the ANA - these rifles look fresh out of the factory.


1: It has been years since containers passed through Pakistan and I'm pretty sure these guns if were from NATO would've been used during the peak of the war. Taliban were in dire need of weapons and ammunition - I'm pretty sure they wouldnt have store them.

2: Where exactly are they going to get 'Chinese knockoffs'? - they can make and copy simple rifles like the Ak-47, but nothing like this especially when their assets were bombed 10 feet under ground by Operation Zarb e Azb.
https://defence.pk/threads/800-roun...military-enthusiasts-home-in-ne-china.419766/
Can we relate similar stories.?
 
These weapons are for domestic consumption only -
 

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