Long Bow Hell Fire: US Navy solution to Iranian fast attack boats

[mohsen]

The missiles that were used in the test has fire and forget capability on board (so in other words don't need to have the host ship constantly provide info) that can lock on to the target even if the target is fast and its in water clutter. If the boat can somehow break that lock it is possible to escape death.
Surface to Surface Missile Test For LCS Successful

WASHINGTON (NNS) -- Engineering development tests of modified Longbow Hellfire missiles for use on littoral combat ships (LCS) were successfully conducted in June the Navy reported July 30.

Integration of the Longbow Hellfire missile system, designated the Surface-to-Surface Missile Module (SSMM), will increase the lethality of the Navy's fleet of littoral combat ships. The SSMM is expected to be fully integrated and ready to deploy on LCS missions in late 2017.

"This test was very successful and overall represents a big step forward in SSMM development for LCS," said Capt. Casey Moton, LCS Mission Modules program manager.

Termed Guided Test Vehicle-1, the event was designed to specifically test the Longbow Hellfire launcher, the missile, and its seeker versus high speed maneuvering surface targets (HSMSTs). The HSMSTs served as surrogates for fast inshore attack craft that are a potential threat to Navy ships worldwide.

During the mid-June tests off the coast of Virginia, the modified Longbow Hellfire missiles successfully destroyed a series of maneuvering small boat targets. The system "hit" seven of eight targets engaged, with the lone miss attributed to a target issue not related to the missile's capability. The shots were launched from the Navy's research vessel Relentless.

The test scenarios included hitting targets at both maximum and minimum missile ranges. After a stationary target was engaged, subsequent targets, conducting serpentine maneuvers were engaged. The tests culminated in a three-target "raid" scenario. During this scenario all missiles from a three-shot "ripple fire" response struck their individual targets.

Integration of the "fire-and-forget" Longbow Hellfire missile on LCS represents the next evolution in capability being developed for inclusion in the Increment 3 version of the surface warfare mission package for LCS. When fully integrated and tested, each 24-shot missile module will bring added firepower to complement the LCS's existing 57mm gun, SEARAM missiles and armed MH-60 Sea Hawk helicopter.



Never seen the U.S. Navy ever used multi-million dollar anti ship missiles against pirates ever. I doubt they ever will. Pirates haven't been a serious threat to the U.S. Navy since more than 200 years when fighting against the Barbary pirates. Somalians pirates at most just have rpgs and machine guns. But no anti-ship missiles. At most it would look like this. Whats impressive is considering a $100,000 missile that could destroy corvettes or small patrol boats that is equipped with trained personnel, expensive missiles, and equipment.

We've seen some of your tactics. Even showed them off to us.

The goal of those boats (out of 500 unites present at the war game) which you saw around the carrier wasn't sinking or destroying it. it was eliminating the remaining resistance on the ship to let other troops capture it.

to help your memory, before our boats reach the ship, we used a handful of Ballistic and cruise missiles on it, 50 missile launchers were present at the coast, yet a few missiles were fired as the example, also ballistic missiles were fired to another practicing target (20 times smaller) to keep the mock carrier for future wargames.
maybe you think you can avoid tens or hundreds of ballistic and cruise missiles which have fired simultaneously, that delusion has no cure!

 

[haman10]

I doubt the small boats can avoid F-18s nearby or helos nearby.

I doubt F-18s can avoid our advanced and hyper-dense air-defense network . or even the frigates and F-14s 300km away .

Iran's AD network is most probably much more dense than that of US and it perfectly covers well in to PG . actually it almost entirely covers it

and i doubt F-18 or any other fighter aircraft for that matter , can survive such a combination . you see dear , in PG you've got nothing on us , literally .

China , Russia and Iran are countries that you CANNOT* attack - unless you've got a maniac named trump as your head of state . in which scenario , you've got to take your bodybags as well .

you'll be the one who needs them the most .

*footnet :Iran with the help of forever persian gulf and it's shallow waters and beautiful sky , but this doesn't change the dynamics .

 

[Xenophon]

can you tell me what's our tactic?

Our navy need rapid upgradation .

 

[Oldman1]

Iran has plenty of ballistic missiles. They'd shove em up your arse in the bases in the region. It's really painful for the US to attack Iran, if Iran were to fight back hard. It's just geography man.

Indeed geography is not that hard for the U.S. to hit countries from half way across the world. Iraq has done it before. It be real painful for Iran.

no need to avoid look what platform it been launched from

you want to see one on top of your bases ?? what do you think the local people who work for you in the bases they do ??

Indeed small boats can't run away from fighter bombers or helicopters. You still haven't giving us numbers. You say this or that, but still haven't giving us numbers.

I doubt F-18s can avoid our advanced and hyper-dense air-defense network . or even the frigates and F-14s 300km away .

Iran's AD network is most probably much more dense than that of US and it perfectly covers well in to PG . actually it almost entirely covers it

and i doubt F-18 or any other fighter aircraft for that matter , can survive such a combination . you see dear , in PG you've got nothing on us , literally .

China , Russia and Iran are countries that you CANNOT* attack - unless you've got a maniac named trump as your head of state . in which scenario , you've got to take your bodybags as well .

you'll be the one who needs them the most .

*footnet :Iran with the help of forever persian gulf and it's shallow waters and beautiful sky , but this doesn't change the dynamics .

Who says F-18s have to avoid it? They just have to destroy it. Most dense doesn't mean anything. Iraq has shown that. The U.S. Air Force and Navy always emphasize on destroying heavily defended air defense system. This isn't their first rodeo.

The goal of those boats (out of 500 unites present at the war game) which you saw around the carrier wasn't sinking or destroying it. it was eliminating the remaining resistance on the ship to let other troops capture it.

to help your memory, before our boats reach the ship, we used a handful of Ballistic and cruise missiles on it, 50 missile launchers were present at the coast, yet a few missiles were fired as the example, also ballistic missiles were fired to another practicing target (20 times smaller) to keep the mock carrier for future wargames.
maybe you think you can avoid tens or hundreds of ballistic and cruise missiles which have fired simultaneously, that delusion has no cure!

Can Iran avoid thousands of cruise missiles and long range weaponry as well as hundreds of aircraft launched from long range as well? You launched a handle of ballistic missiles and cruise missiles, thats not enough against a battle group that attacks from long range and can defend itself from ballistic and cruise missile attacks.

One other important point : The efficacy of this system is in question here .

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They tested the missiles many times and succeeded hitting targets ground and on water. Especially fast moving targets. Even hit targets simultaneously.

 

[mohsen]

Can Iran avoid thousands of cruise missiles and long range weaponry as well as hundreds of aircraft launched from long range as well?

Yes, we can and that's the main difference between Iran and U.S warfare. we are everywhere while we are nowhere, it's called asymmetric warfare, that's why we load our missiles on the boats. on the other hand, your military bases in the middle east are known for us, the whole Persian golf is under our observation.

hundred aircrafts from long range? how fare, beyond 2000 km (cause that's the primary range of our missiles)? how you are planning to bring those hundreds to Iran, with how many tankers? and what exactly you wanna destroy? Iranian boats?

You launched a handle of ballistic missiles and cruise missiles, thats not enough against a battle group that attacks from long range and can defend itself from ballistic and cruise missile attacks.

all of your long range weapons are useless in Persian gulf, as one of your carrier commanders said, maybe what you need here is a sawed-off shotgun!
and about your sophisticated defense system, Israelis had the same fantasy about their stealth corvettes too till Hezbollah missiles woke them up. Now if I post a video of our drones flying above your latest and most advanced carrier in Persian gulf undetected, you would probably say it's out of your kind heart to not shoot it down!

 

[Oldman1]

Yes, we can and that's the main difference between Iran and U.S warfare. we are everywhere while we are nowhere, it's called asymmetric warfare, that's why we load our missiles on the boats. on the other hand, your military bases in the middle east are known for us, the whole Persian golf is under our observation.

hundred aircrafts from long range? how fare, beyond 2000 km (cause that's the primary range of our missiles)? how you are planning to bring those hundreds to Iran, with how many tankers? and what exactly you wanna destroy? Iranian boats?
all of your long range weapons are useless in Persian gulf, as one of your carrier commanders said, maybe what you need here is a sawed-off shotgun!
and about your sophisticated defense system, Israelis had the same fantasy about their stealth corvettes too till Hezbollah missiles woke them up. Now if I post a video of our drones flying above your latest and most advanced carrier in Persian gulf undetected, you would probably say it's out of your kind heart to not shoot it down!

We also load our missiles on boats. Our submarines can launch hundreds of cruise missiles. And we have many tankers. How else were the U.S. able to sustain long range air bombardment for so long for decades? And strategic bombers with long range cruise missiles. This is nothing new.

The video about drones watching a carrier crossing through is nothing. Just like recording your small patrol boats.

Did the U.S. Navy shoot at your boats? No they didn't. No reason to shoot down the drones since they ain't a threat to the carriers unless you want a war.

Iranian perspective. Guess the American warships didn't see them, because they didn't shoot them.

 

[بلندر]

well , fighting with USA Navy is open sea is impossible , but in Persian gulf is hard ... the main problem is their Air support not this fancy missiles ...

 

[Siavash]

This picture is awesome! Just think what a Ballistic missile can do right on the 6th one (I believe it is the middle one)! where are they going by the way? Where is this place? They are beautiful when I grow up I like to have one!

 

[Hack-Hook]

This picture is awesome! Just think what a Ballistic missile can do right on the 6th one (I believe it is the middle one)! where are they going by the way? Where is this place? They are beautiful when I grow up I like to have one!

They don't seems to go anywhere . They looks like they are just parked there for some reason

 

[Siavash]

They don't seems to go anywhere . They looks like they are just parked there for some reason

There ought to be an accident in front! Hope he posts next picture when it is resolved!

 

[Hack-Hook]

There ought to be an accident in front! Hope he posts next picture when it is resolved!

Honnestly I cant understand why they parked those planes on the runway and closed it.
Maybe there is a strike . Maybe they want insurance or erly retirement or more money.

 

[scythian500]

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