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Lets compile the list of debts/loans/bonds whatever you wanna call it has been taken by PML-N and/or under negotiations with the IMF, World Bank, ADB, Islamic Bank and other Financial Institutes.

I believe that's

WB approves $12 billion loan for Pakistan - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

World Bank approves $1 bn loan to Pakistan - Yahoo Finance UK
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World Bank approves 3 loans for Pakistan worth $1.125 bn – The Express Tribune

IMF gives green light to $6.6bn Pakistan loan - FT.com

Bonds worth 2 billion dollars

So that's 2 billion dollars of bond + 12 + 1 + 6.6 billion dollars I suppose = That's about 22 billion dollars of loan under negotiation/approved and there is more from Islamic Bank.

Can somebody shed the light on this matter?

Please note: This thread is about the loans that has been approved/received/under negotiation in this tenure of PML-N Government. Please do not discuss the past of any other government. The discussion of whether this loan being taken for a good cause or bad, we can do that after we have compiled the total figure of loans if possible
 
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PPPP pushed the volume of foreign debts from about 38 billion dollars to 65 billion dollars in 5 years. PML-N has managed to secure about 20+ billion dollars of loans already. I understand the amount of loans will be received from period 2013-2019 and by then we may have a different government in place. But I am just trying to gather all the possible deals they are making these days as they are going to be the deal-brokers.

Are we expecting a foreign debt piling up to 100 billion dollars before their tenure ends?

I have not even mentioned/calculate the approved loans of Islamic Banks, ADB in last 12 months as we often read them in the newspapers. The Aid received from the USA and Arab nations is not a loan so I have deliberately ignored this part
 
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Unfortunately, there's really no other way for development to happen. But it's important that we track where these funds are going and what the projected ROI is?
 
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Unfortunately, there's really no other way for development to happen. But it's important that we track where these funds are going and what the projected ROI is?
Agreed...I was a little concerned with the amount and also where it is going..
 
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Unfortunately, there's really no other way for development to happen. But it's important that we track where these funds are going and what the projected ROI is?
The deal of 6.6 billion dollars with IMF was imminent. The situation was such that every political party agreed that they would have to secure a deal with IMF to bailout the limping Economy. I remember many economist agreed that they would secure a deal similar to last for having taken a loan of 11 billion dollars but they only asked for 6.6 billion dollars at that time claiming they don't want to take any loans and only securing this deal to pay off the existing loan. The loan was imminent due to low growth rate being posted and low foreign reserves.

The government did well to cover the emergency situation but I am really failed to understand this new deal of 12 billion dollars. This is really unnecessary. If we can manage to raise GDP to tax ratio by only 1% that's about 200 billion rupees of earning. On top of that PML-N has not been so money-stretched as was apparently the case during the general elections. They have been receiving regular Aid from the USA and a friendly nation's gift of 1.5 billion dollars. They have also managed to secure another billion dollar from the 3G/4G auction so I am failed to understand the need to get this new 12 billion dollars of package. This would have been nice if the loan was directly being funded to build large dams on emergency situation. The loan for supporting multiple development and non development projects sounds fishy.
 
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400Million dollars more

Pakistan receives $400mn from ADB

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan on Saturday received US $ 400 million from the Asian Development Bank (ADB) on account of support to the government's ongoing reforms to tackle the country's chronic energy crisis.

In recognition of government's commitment to carry out reforms, particularly those in the energy sector, the ADB on April 24, 2014 had approved the loan worth of $400 million for Pakistan and an agreement to this effect was signed on April 28th at the Finance Ministry.

Finance Minister Senator Ishaq Dar had already indicated that coal power projects will be set up in different parts of the country with the help the soft loan which is virtually a free loan and reflected the trust of the international community in the government's efforts to improve the economy.

According to a statement issued by the Finance Ministry here, the loan is part of an assistance programme which will underwrite reforms needed to make the energy sector affordable, reliable, sustainable and secure.

It will accelerate industrial activity needed to boost economic growth and help create jobs, which are keys to reducing poverty levels.

ADB is the lead development organization in Pakistan's energy sector supporting energy efficiency, transmission, distribution, cross-border natural gas pipelines, power generation, and renewable energy projects.

The full programme is expected to total $1.2 billion, with future commitments, the statement added


Pakistan receives $400mn from ADB

Reserve's Reaches 12Billion dollars
ISLAMABAD: Finance Minister, Senator Mohammad Ishaq Dar on Saturday said that Forex reserves have increased to $12 billion and will reach $15 billion by September 30th, 2014.


Forex Reserves to reach $15bn by September 30: Ishaq Dar
 
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The deal of 6.6 billion dollars with IMF was imminent. The situation was such that every political party agreed that they would have to secure a deal with IMF to bailout the limping Economy. I remember many economist agreed that they would secure a deal similar to last for having taken a loan of 11 billion dollars but they only asked for 6.6 billion dollars at that time claiming they don't want to take any loans and only securing this deal to pay off the existing loan. The loan was imminent due to low growth rate being posted and low foreign reserves.

The government did well to cover the emergency situation but I am really failed to understand this new deal of 12 billion dollars. This is really unnecessary. If we can manage to raise GDP to tax ratio by only 1% that's about 200 billion rupees of earning. On top of that PML-N has not been so money-stretched as was apparently the case during the general elections. They have been receiving regular Aid from the USA and a friendly nation's gift of 1.5 billion dollars. They have also managed to secure another billion dollar from the 3G/4G auction so I am failed to understand the need to get this new 12 billion dollars of package. This would have been nice if the loan was directly being funded to build large dams on emergency situation. The loan for supporting multiple development and non development projects sounds fishy.

World Bank loans are generally invested directly into development projects. The $12 bln will be dispersed over 5 years. Here's what happens with the first $1bln being received:

World Bank Group Approves $1 billion for Supporting Economic Reforms in Pakistan

Islamabad, May 02, 2014 - The World Bank Group approved a package of assistance worth US$1 billion to support Pakistan’s economic reforms on Thursday. The assistance package consists of two Development Policy Credits (DPCs) to support the Government of Pakistan’s efforts to improve the power sector, and reinvigorate growth and investment for reducing poverty and building shared prosperity.

“The Government of Pakistan deserves appreciation for stabilizing the economy, initiating reforms in the power sector as well as revenue mobilization and drawing in the private sector for spurring growth”, said Philippe H. Le Houérou, Vice President of World Bank Group’s South Asia Region. “Staying on the structural reform path is important for competitiveness of the economy, which in turn is essential for creating jobs and lifting millions out of poverty in Pakistan.”

The Power Sector Reform DPC of US$600 million (with additional co-financing support of the Asian Development Bank and the Japan International Credit Agency) supports Pakistan’s goal of developing an efficient and consumer-oriented electric power system that meets the needs of its people and economy, sustainably and affordably. The Power DPC focuses particularly on policy and institutional actions that will improve financial viability and thus reduce the burden of public financing for the sector. The Power DPC is structured around three objectives: targeting power subsidies to the poorest and improving tariff policy; improving sector performance and opening the market to privateparticipation; and ensuring accountability and transparency.

The Fiscally Sustainable and Inclusive Growth DPC of US $400 million, supports Pakistan’s goal of accelerating growth to help create jobs and economic opportunity for all. The main development objectives of the credit are to increase private and financial sector development, improve the business environment, facilitate trade and promote financial inclusion, enhance revenue to create fiscal space for expanding social protection for the poor.

The two credits are financed from the International Development Association (IDA), and will be on standard IDA terms, with a maturity of 25 years, including a grace period of 5 years.

The World Bank Group’s Board of Executive Directors also discussed the Group’s – including International Finance Corporation and Multilateral Investment Guarantee Agency – new Country Partnership Strategy (CPS) for Pakistan envisaging a notional financing envelop of $11 billion over the next five years (Fiscal Years 2015-19) for development in both public and private sectors.

"Pakistan is a key country for the International Finance Corporation”, said Dimitris Tsitsiragos, IFC Vice President for Europe, Central Asia, Middle East and North Africa. “We have a portfolio of close to $1 billion which represents one of the largest in the region. Our focus has been to support Pakistan’s private sector and increase investments to catalyze other players in the market, especially in the energy sector. This joint strategy marks another important milestone in our partnership with the country together with the World Bank and MIGA. Over the next few years we will continue to enhance our support to improve the investment climate and leverage more private investments, including in energy as well as expand access to finance for the underserved groups.”

The WBG’s Pakistan Country Partnership Strategy is anchored in the Government’s framework of 4Es: Energy, Economy, Extremism and Education; and the initial priorities of the incoming Vision 2025. Enough flexibility has also been built into the Strategy to allow for quick reallocation of resources in case of unforeseen needs or emergencies.

“Helping Pakistan in deepening multi-sectoral policy reforms and performance based investments in the social and human development sectors has guided the Bank Group’s assistance strategy in Pakistan over the last few years”, said Rachid Benmessaoud, World Bank Country Director for Pakistan. “In formulating the new Country Partnership Strategy, a wide range of stakeholders including civil society, media, youth, parliamentarians, and federal and provincial governments were consulted. The new strategy is structured to help the country tackle the most difficult, but potentially transformational areas to reach the twin goals of poverty reduction and shared prosperity.”

The four strategic pillars or result areas of the new Country Partnership Strategy are:

  • Transforming the energy sector. Policy reforms and large investments in the power sector aim to reduce load shedding, expand low-cost generation and supply, improve governance and cut losses;
  • Supporting private sector development.WBG’s support is aimed at strengthening the business environment, improving competitiveness and productivity of farms and businesses, and making cities growth friendly to support productive and quality jobs;
  • Reaching out to the underserved, neglected, and poor.The strategy has a special focus on targeted support for poorer districts and vulnerable groups e.g. women and youth; micro, small and medium enterprises particularly in fragile and crises-affected provinces / regions; and support for enhancing resilience and adaptation to the impact of climate change;
  • Accelerating improvements in public service delivery. WBG would support efforts for increasing revenues both at the federal and provincial levels to fund public services and setting more ambitious targets to create greater impact in critical areas especially education and health; and
  • Leveraging regional markets. As part of the four result areas, this cross-cutting program focuses on energy and trade, aimed at an integrated electricity market in South Asia with power transmission links to Central Asia and India; and other opportunities to capture the potential of cross-border trade between Pakistan and its neighboring countries. Sustained economic cooperation can help contribute to growth as well as overall stability in the region.
 
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So how many billion dollars of loan so far
 
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PPPP pushed the volume of foreign debts from about 38 billion dollars to 65 billion dollars in 5 years. PML-N has managed to secure about 20+ billion dollars of loans already. I understand the amount of loans will be received from period 2013-2019 and by then we may have a different government in place. But I am just trying to gather all the possible deals they are making these days as they are going to be the deal-brokers.

Are we expecting a foreign debt piling up to 100 billion dollars before their tenure ends?

I have not even mentioned/calculate the approved loans of Islamic Banks, ADB in last 12 months as we often read them in the newspapers. The Aid received from the USA and Arab nations is not a loan so I have deliberately ignored this part

to move the wheels you must get some money otherwise things will get worse beside most of it will go back to previous loan payments
 
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to move the wheels you must get some money otherwise things will get worse beside most of it will go back to previous loan payments
If only the tax to gdp ratio is also raised in the meanwhile to above 15% if not more... Major reforms, cutting non development budget, improving efficiency, bringing the black sheeps of PIA and Railways to profitable organisations and the money taken for loan used for hydropower projects... I am dreaming... This government is busy only in more n more loans with hardly significant growth in the gdp and exports... They are behaving as if they formed a government yesterday... Its one year already
 
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If only the tax to gdp ratio is also raised in the meanwhile to above 15% if not more... Major reforms, cutting non development budget, improving efficiency, bringing the black sheeps of PIA and Railways to profitable organisations and the money taken for loan used for hydropower projects... I am dreaming... This government is busy only in more n more loans with hardly significant growth in the gdp and exports... They are behaving as if they formed a government yesterday... Its one year already

things are turning around man, just wait
as far as improvements in tax collection goes that may take a long time, the whole damn nation is corrupt and FBR is the worst.
how can you grow export when you have such a shortage of power, most of these loans are for power generation and without that you can just sit and pray to allah
 
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things are turning around man, just wait
as far as improvements in tax collection goes that may take a long time, the whole damn nation is corrupt and FBR is the worst.
how can you grow export when you have such a shortage of power, most of these loans are for power generation and without that you can just sit and pray to allah
Can you highlight exactly which power generation projects and how it is going to be dostributed? I have read the news with general statement of power generation.. sar pair ka koi pata nai abhi

Bottom line wohi hai ke zayada se zayada qarzay liye jaa rahay hain bas naam aur bahane badal gaye hain
 
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