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Military establishment doesn't want to support this system anymore. Otherwise Chauhdries and MQM wouldn't be speaking out right now.
 
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Military establishment doesn't want to support this system anymore. Otherwise Chauhdries and MQM wouldn't be speaking out right now.
I think MQM and Chaudhries both are opportunist ... MQM still toeing Altaf Hussain line, if you listen his recent speeches. Seems MQM wants PPP support to get back its lost seats to PTI.
 
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I think MQM and Chaudhries both are opportunist ... MQM still toeing Altaf Hussain line, if you listen his recent speeches. Seems MQM wants PPP support to get back its lost seats to PTI.
Media is just propaganda and PTI supporters are falling for it simple is that

Check what today chauhdry is saying

 
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Alright, I see you seem like one of those die hard supporters that political parties have Aka jialas but first of all, Relaaaax and take a deep breath, even if you don’t have blood pressure issues. Now, you need to understand that as civilised humans you need to learn to to take critism and respect other people’s opinions.

Secondly, in my opionion, anyone who is not doing their job right while governing this country deserves every bit of criticism and it’s pretty clear in my post if you had used your brain just a littttle bit while reading it. Also, I never said that the government needs to go, again if you had used that upper half, you would’ve understood. But it does evidently needs correction of whatever kind necessary. I don’t worship people, to me imran Khan would be the same as the nawaz or zardari If he does not perform and deliver, despite the problems that he inherited from the previous government.

But I understand your hatred towards anyone who says anything against your leader, even if it is right. Part of that political faith.

Anyhow, Chaudries of Gujrat seem to talk sense, they should get a turn at the federal government next elections, if no other new leader pops up.
 
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Media is just propaganda and PTI supporters are falling for it simple is that

Check what today chauhdry is saying

Yeah, but you can't trust these two brothers. Both brothers try to reach Nawaz many times but he refused them. These two brothers were first one who dump Nawaz and join Musharraf. Don't expect anything good from them.
 
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Yeah, but you can't trust these two brothers. Both brothers try to reach Nawaz many times but he refused them. These two brothers were first one who dump Nawaz and join Musharraf. Don't expect anything good from them.
To be honest you can't trust anyone except Imrankhan but current system is what it is you need these people to have govt.
 
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I don't think the military establishment is involved to bring IK down. The intent is to let this happen in order to push IK towards system change. IK was the one insisting on fixing this system with a wafer thin majority!

News of workings on new system has been circling way way before the 2018 elections.

IK needs to come out gun blazing against this system asking the public to give him 2/3 at next election and dissolve assemblies.

Nawaz was pushed by whom to march for the reinstatement of that SC judge who replaced Zardari's man from CJP post?

I am enjoying this actually. IK should do the needful without delay. This was inevitable and I stated this here the day the election results were confirmed - elections within 2 years.
The right time for what you suggest was when Pakistan was about to default; mere days after his coming to power.

The economic scene was disastrous beyond the expectations and worst case accessments of Asad Umer and co.

Instead of trying to play down the disaster at hand to try and build inveter and business confidence, and begging Saudia,UAE and Qatar for dollars, IK should have declared compkete system failure at hand and give simple choice to establishment and people of Pakistan: let Pakistan default or change this dead system.


Now, after not doing the above and choosing to fight a desastrous battle that would render himself unpopular to many shifting voters, IK has made his political standing only weaker.

Your suggestions can only turn into a politically favorable position for IK to do the needfull if he is able to generate a spontaneous political wave of resurgence in his support, a wave of support like before the 2018 elections without which, it would become a futile effort to try and dismantle the existing system.

There is still a way to do it..to regain political milage and ride the wave of popularity again if IK makes a stands for the poor rotting in Jail as @PakSword suggested:
Had I been the prime minister, I would have gone to the same court to get justice for 10,000 critically sick patients in pakistani jails. I would have provided them lawyers on government's expense. In case of a negative decision, I would have resigned and called all the relatives to gather in front of high and supreme courts until the same speedy justice wouldn't have been given to them.

And that's why I am not a PM.
 
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Media is just propaganda and PTI supporters are falling for it simple is that

Check what today chauhdry is saying


Will watch this video later, but this was something i was wondering about. Check the visuals of PM IK and COAS meeting.


To me, IK body language seems to be totally relaxed, likewise even COAS's. I know politicians are good in art to hide and NS was famous. I heard some anchor on TV that NS is good in putting poker face and uses his masoomana face to fool people :lol:. However IK is pretty straightforward person imo.

Maybe IK is really relaxed. He already saw this coming, knows what to do? And 2 days off could be bcz he finally got a breathing space? Interesting.....i could be reading it wrong though..
 
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The right time for what you suggest was when Pakistan was about to default; mere days after his coming to power.

The economic scene was disastrous beyond the expectations and worst case accessments of Asad Umer and co.

Instead of trying to play down the disaster at hand to try and build inveter and business confidence, and begging Saudia,UAE and Qatar for dollars, IK should have declared compkete system failure at hand and give simple choice to establishment and people of Pakistan: let Pakistan default or change this dead system.


Now, after not doing the above and choosing to fight a desastrous battle that would render himself unpopular to many shifting voters, IK has made his political standing only weaker.

Your suggestions can only turn into a politically favorable position for IK to do the needfull if he is able to generate a spontaneous political wave of resurgence in his support, a wave of support like before the 2018 elections without which, it would become a futile effort to try and dismantle the existing system.

There is still a way to do it..to regain political milage and ride the wave of popularity again if IK makes a stands for the poor rotting in Jail as @PakSword suggested:

There never was a chance for the kind of politics, which IK want to do in Pakistan. Pakistan is neither ready nor desirous of that politics. With time, IK would either adjust to this dirty state of affairs or would get alienated and be dispensed with.
 
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Will watch this video later, but this was something i was wondering about. Check the visuals of PM IK and COAS meeting.


To me, IK body language seems to be totally relaxed, likewise even COAS's. I know politicians are good in art to hide and NS was famous. I heard some anchor on TV that NS is good in putting poker face and uses his masoomana face to fool people :lol:. However IK is pretty straightforward person imo.

Maybe IK is really relaxed. He already saw this coming, knows what to do? And 2 days off could be bcz he finally got a breathing space? Interesting.....i could be reading it wrong though..

You read it correct. Our media is just hungry for money. Be it youtuber, or tv channels.
 
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Alright, I see you seem like one of those die hard supporters that political parties have Aka jialas but first of all, Relaaaax and take a deep breath, even if you don’t have blood pressure issues. Now, you need to understand that as civilised humans you need to learn to to take critism and respect other people’s opinions.

Secondly, in my opionion, anyone who is not doing their job right while governing this country deserves every bit of criticism and it’s pretty clear in my post if you had used your brain just a littttle bit while reading it. Also, I never said that the government needs to go, again if you had used that upper half, you would’ve understood. But it does evidently needs correction of whatever kind necessary. I don’t worship people, to me imran Khan would be the same as the nawaz or zardari If he does not perform and deliver, despite the problems that he inherited from the previous government.

But I understand your hatred towards anyone who says anything against your leader, even if it is right. Part of that political faith.

Anyhow, Chaudries of Gujrat seem to talk sense, they should get a turn at the federal government next elections, if no other new leader pops up.
Lol, thank you for caring for my well being dear.

You started maligning the man who saved Pakistan from ominous default by murdering his soul by begging friendly countries against his personal will...all for the sake of saving Pakistan the humility of defaulting...who did the impossible task of defeating political monsters who looted us dry, by starting to put the corrupt behind bars one by one...and what do we do? We try to force deals behind his back to give way to corrupt to escape...

Yes, I am indebted to IK for trying to defeat the monsters of corruption...the least I can do for him is to appreciate that at least, at least, at k east, he has tried...no one else before had the guts to try as much...NO ONE.

Tsk tsk tsk dear, all the self righteousness and all you can come up with are the Chaudhries of Gujrat?

More of the same??? That's pathetic.
 
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Yeah, but you can't trust these two brothers. Both brothers try to reach Nawaz many times but he refused them. These two brothers were first one who dump Nawaz and join Musharraf. Don't expect anything good from them.

Chaudry and opposition played their role. Look in this scenario. Chaudry and mqm said to IK that don't believe what we are going to say for 1 week on meida and Chaudry went to fazlu and said look we are not happy either and we are waiting for strike but you also have to be patience for 1-2 months and then everything will be upside down for PTI and new election will be held. Fazlu was looking for face saving so now they say govt will go after 2 months we acheive what we wanted.

Chaudry they made few interviews and talk here and there which suited them and now fazlu is out of the figure.
Court will be responsible for nawaz (If IK not go to SC even then IK has nothing to loose)
outcome is Imran went for two holidays for relax.
So IK handled it beautifully however nawaz is going but now nawaz and shahbaz his political career on stake if nawaz didn't come to face his cases. Maryam will stay in Pakistan and can not leave until drama stage set where NS is dying like on ventilator.
 
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The right time for what you suggest was when Pakistan was about to default; mere days after his coming to power.

The economic scene was disastrous beyond the expectations and worst case accessments of Asad Umer and co.

Instead of trying to play down the disaster at hand to try and build inveter and business confidence, and begging Saudia,UAE and Qatar for dollars, IK should have declared compkete system failure at hand and give simple choice to establishment and people of Pakistan: let Pakistan default or change this dead system.


Now, after not doing the above and choosing to fight a desastrous battle that would render himself unpopular to many shifting voters, IK has made his political standing only weaker.

Your suggestions can only turn into a politically favorable position for IK to do the needfull if he is able to generate a spontaneous political wave of resurgence in his support, a wave of support like before the 2018 elections without which, it would become a futile effort to try and dismantle the existing system.

There is still a way to do it..to regain political milage and ride the wave of popularity again if IK makes a stands for the poor rotting in Jail as @PakSword suggested:

I don't think he is weaker. He recently took on the prices monitoring task himself as this is the primary way the mafia is hurting the public and turning people against him - babuz part of it.

Let him get control on prices and then we will most likely see a new election.
 
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