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Lets help our Syrian brothers, sisters and children through Zakat and Atiaat

Sweden is a Nudist country. Visit some sauna someday where nudity is obligatory.
I have my private sauna in the basement of my house so I don't need to go anywhere and it is big enough to host 10 people but I always used alone..so far..
 
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I have my private sauna in the basement of my house so I don't need to go anywhere and it is big enough to host 10 people but I always used alone..so far..

Lucky you. I always wanted a sauna of my own but if I get one, no bloody way I'm gonna use it alone. Lol
 
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Lucky you. I always wanted a sauna of my own but if I get one, no bloody way I'm gonna use it alone. Lol
I used it alone there because I'm not a nudist..:partay:
I bought the home here so it came as part of it and I like it because it really helps fight the extreme cold here.

Let's get back to the topic...so what about doing charity? what are your thoughts on that??
 
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I used it alone there because I'm not a nudist..:partay:
I bought the home here so it came as part of it and I like it because it really helps fight the extreme cold here.

Let's get back to the topic...so what about doing charity? what are your thoughts on that??

Read my Post #4 and #32

We, the ones living in Pak are in no position to help others when we cant even help ourselves.
 
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Well, I won't be going into details because it will branch out the discussion in a totally different direction.


No sir, Sweden is not the centre of Vulgarity rather I found it more modest than many Muslim cities like Dubai, Kuala Lumpur etc since prostitution is banned here and I haven't seen street girls strutting up and down the allays, there are no red light areas and even sex shops are rare and not so obvious, no displays of nudity...
Furthermore being a very cold country, most of the people wear a lot more then even sharia recommends ....So I feel very comfortable walking alone or with friends and family especially females here. Most of the people make their opinions from media and disinformation spread by people but the ground realities are different...I wrote so much because I love my adopted country and I respect their culture.


No mate, we don't want to give money to Israel. We don't want to give money to the terrorists of ISIS, Al-Nusra, FSA or the butcher Bashar-al-Assad. We just want to help the common Syrians because their homes have been destroyed, their family members have been killed, they are homeless and displaced and that's why they have been forced to take shelters ... It makes me and sad and irritated to see the people lying shamelessly on purpose here just to support their agenda.. just look at these images.
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Guys @PakSword @Kaptaan @dsr4 @Iqbal Ali ....check these pictures above and judge for yourself ...Do Syrian cities in the images look better than even Pakistan villages? and it is just the pictures, the smell of dead bodies, fire explosives and chemicals suffocates any living thing there... and these are just a few images... you can search online for far more and do not let people spread disinformation and lies under the pretext of freedom of expression as it is said you have the right to express your own freedom but not your own "facts". I hope everyone on this thread understands it.
Agreed with you. That Syria is a destroyed country. Syria is much worse than Pakistan now.
 
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Read my Post #4 and #32

We, the ones living in Pak are in no position to help others when we cant even help ourselves.
We should help ourselves and others as well and we have always done that and world respects that. We help ourselves by throwing the corrupt politicians, bureaucrats, military personal and all other office holders and business men out of their positions and into jails and gallows. We need to get rid off of the likes of NS, Zardari, Bilawal (bhutto or zordari essentially a bastard), Maryam (Safdar or Nawaz again essentially a bastard).. vote for the real representatives of Pakistan so the children of Thar won't die of hunger and unavailability of the medicine while the characterless rulers are shamelessly dancing in Sindh festival and spending billions on it.
 
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We should help ourselves and others as well and we have always done that and world respects that. We help ourselves by throwing the corrupt politicians, bureaucrats, military personal and all other office holders and business men out of their positions and into jails and
gallows. We need to get rid off of the likes of NS, Zardari, Bilawal (bhutto or zordari essentially a bastard), Maryam (Safdar or Nawaz again essentially a bastard).. vote for the real representatives of Pakistan so the children of thar don't die of hunger and unavailability of the medicine while the characterless rulers are shamelessly dancing in Sindh festival and spending billions on it.

I agree with you about the change of political set up in Pk but that's not the point of discussion here. Point of discussion is where should I give my limited zakat. Should I feed some poor nearby and pay the fees for kids whom I personally know plus edhi or simply send my charity to some country thousands of miles away based on some internet ad?
 
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We should help ourselves and others as well and we have always done that and world respects that. We help ourselves by throwing the corrupt politicians, bureaucrats, military personal and all other office holders and business men out of their positions and into jails and gallows. We need to get rid off of the likes of NS, Zardari, Bilawal (bhutto or zordari essentially a bastard), Maryam (Safdar or Nawaz again essentially a bastard).. vote for the real representatives of Pakistan so the children of thar don't die of hunger and unavailability of the medicine while the characterless rulers are shamelessly dancing in Sindh festival and spending billions on it.



Do you think the Syrians, Palestinians or any other Arabs collect charity to send to Pakistan? The answer is a resounding NO. The moment Pakistanis realizes this fact along with the realization that the Ummah does not exist we will start making progress on a global scale. The reality is that Muslim or not, the Arabs don't give a damn about us. Neither should we with them. The ONLY 2 nations Pakistan should care about and consider our brothers and sisters are the Chinese and Turks. NO-ONE ELSE. To hell with the Syrians, Palestinians and Arabs. Could not care less with what happens to them. Not our problem.
 
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Do you think the Syrians, Palestinians or any other Arabs collect charity to send to Pakistan? The answer is a resounding NO. The moment Pakistanis realizes this fact along with the realization that the Ummah does not exist we will start making progress on a global scale. The reality is that Muslim or not, the Arabs don't give a damn about us. Neither should we with them. The ONLY 2 nations Pakistan should care about and consider our brothers and sisters are the Chinese and Turks. NO-ONE ELSE. To hell with the Syrians, Palestinians and Arabs. Could not care less with what happens to them. Not our problem.
blah blah blah...yawn...nothing new mate..oft-read, repeated and replied....:undecided:
 
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blah blah blah...yawn...nothing new mate..oft-read, repeated and replied....:undecided:



Because it's the truth and deep down you know it too. I used to be just like you but then I saw reality. There is no Ummah. It doesn't exist. It can ONLY exist when ALL the Muslims in EVERY Muslim country zealously demand it. Not happening. Truth is that White Western European people care more about Pakistanis than other Muslims/Arabs do. Who helped us the most after the 2005 earthquake? It weren't the Arabs. It is the same people who alot Muslims hate. Face reality. Idealists never win.
 
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I agree with you about the change of political set up in Pk but that's not the point of discussion here. Point of discussion is where should I give my limited zakat. Should I feed some poor nearby and pay the fees for kids whom I personally know plus edhi or simply send my charity to some country thousands of miles away based on some internet ad?
Politics encompasses everything... Pakistan is not a war zone Alhamdulillah but we have been kept underdeveloped by the corrupt system. Most of the poverty in Pakistan is because of this continuous stealing of resources by the corrupt people.

Because it's the truth and deep down you know it too. I used to be just like you but then I saw reality. There is no Ummah. It doesn't exist. It can ONLY exist when ALL the Muslims in EVERY Muslim country zealously demand it. Not happening. Truth is that White Western European people care more about Pakistanis than other Muslims/Arabs do. Who helped us the most after the 2005 earthquake? It weren't the Arabs. It is the same people who alot Muslims hate. Face reality. Idealists never win.
If you follow my posts you will find that my views are balanced. I neither take side of Iran or KSA... furthermore whether you believe in ummah or not...do you believe in humanity?
 
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Politics encompasses everything... Pakistan is not a war zone Alhamdulillah but we have been kept underdeveloped by the corrupt system. Most of the poverty in Pakistan is because of this continuous stealing of resources by the corrupt people.


If you follow my posts you will find that my views are balanced. I neither take side of Iran or KSA... furthermore whether you believe in ummah or not...do you believe in humanity?



Not including indians, I do.
 
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Pakistan did not fought war on terror without any assistance from others. It was american war on terror which Musharraf made it our war after taking dollars from USA but we got suffered more than what we got from it

Many charity organisation who provided aid to Pakistan in time of need i.e flood, earth quakes and ny others crisis collected their donation from all countries, races and backgrounds ..again you are free to donate your personal wealth only in Pakistan if you feel no empathy for Syrian people or non Pakistani. You dont object when people spend their personal wealth on luxurious life but you are having objection when they are donating it to syrian Muslim..strange..you spend your wealth wherever you like while others will spend it wherever they wish


I will help whoever i will wish. I am not forcing you to help syrian and you cannot dictate me where i should donate my personal wealth .. stop these useless lectures

Who says there no empathy for Syria or non-Pakistanis ? Some of us are just simply questioning why when Pakistan is infamous in international community for being a beggar country instead of trying to lift ourselves out of poverty first there seem to be so much focus on Syria when there's probably way more people in Pak who are living in just as bad conditions as Syrians or what about others then why are Syrians more deserving of attention than Somalis/Yemenis/Iraqis or Afghans ? who have suffered just as much in most cases for much longer.
I never said don't help them I only said it's better to focus on helping yourself first once you fix your own home you will actually be in an even better position to help Syria and be an even bigger aid donor like how Japan assists so many countries much more than us because it's in such a strong position to do so. Anyway it's just something I think about as most other people put their own interests first but good for you for helping Syria.
 
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