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Lets help our Syrian brothers, sisters and children through Zakat and Atiaat

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Yes we should help the Syrians because their country is in trouble.

For now Pakistan is stable.

but at the same time we should not forget to donate to our own people, who need our help.

Pakistan govt. can't help Syrians because of the black mail mafia, who is already out there to kill every Afghan refugee but they don't talk about those, who were granted passports by Asif Ali Zardari.
 
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Syrian passport even now with the war and deluge of migrants is ranked better at 96 then Pakistanat 97. Only Iraq and Afghanistan are worse. Bangla beats Pakistan to 38. Pakistan sits clasped to Afghanistan.

https://www.passportindex.org/comparebyPassport.php?p1=pk&p2=sy&p3=af&p4=bd&fl=&s=yes
as if one higher ranking make any difference ..

These passport ranking means nothing for unfortunate people of these countries . Indian passport having better ranking will not feed the poor people of their country and will not provide them shelter if they sleep in park or roads

@ BTW its debatable how they value passport .. Its just based on how many countries you can enter. Somalian passport better than Pakistan lol

At a glance | The world's least powerful passports
Territory Countries that can be visited visa-free
Afghanistan 24
Iraq 27
Syria 28
Pakistan 30
Somalia 32
Yemen 35
Nepal 36
Libya 36
Palestinian Territories 37

At a glance | The world's most powerful passports
Ranking Nation Score
1 Germany 177
2 Singapore 176
3 Denmark 175
Finland 175
France 175
Italy 175
Japan 175
Norway 175
Sweden 175
UK 175

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/powerful-passports-2018/
 
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If i go by your logic then many people should not spend their personal wealth for luxury stuff when they have poor people around them who cannot feed their family but we have seen people spending their personal wealth on lavish lifestyle i.e waste money on weddings, cars, technologies, foods etc when they could have donate this money to poor people in their city/town . Donating your personal money to Syrian people is still better than wasting it elsewhere..You should not forget that Pakistan also got many donation from different countries when we had earth quakes and others disaster

Look India has vast majority of population who are living below poverty line but still we accepted $5m flood aid from them. They could have spent this money on their poor people ..no?

https://tribune.com.pk/story/39008/india-offers-5m-in-aid-to-pakistan/

Who's saying to waste money there's plenty of causes in Pakistan charity can go to and I Don't care what India does. Pakistan is a 3rd world country -It's better Pakistan starts charity home develops itself first then focuses on helping others once it's a strong position to do so.
When Pakistan was being flooded and bombed by TTP regularly during that dark period I never heard Syrians or Arabs in general ever talking about lets help our pakistani brothers and sisters even before the Syrian war . I think charity and zakat is great I just think poverty should be alleviated within your own borders first.
 
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s if one higher ranking make any difference
Yes it does. One mark can be differance between pass and fail. More to the point, bombed, deluge of migrants, warzone, Russkies, Yanks, Turks using it as target practice yet, guess what Syrian passport still has one more score then Pakistan. FFs what does that say about Pakistan. Basically sandwiched between Syria (above) a warzone and Afghanistan (below) another warzone. And the laugh is Pakistani's here croaking about helping Syrians. That is like one starving, drowning begger croaking about another less starving, drowning begger. Says a lot about the fcuked up mentality of our people.
 
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Who's saying to waste money there's plenty of causes in Pakistan charity can go to and I Don't care what India does. Pakistan is a 3rd world country -It's better Pakistan starts charity home develops itself first then focuses on helping others once it's a strong position to do so.
When Pakistan was being flooded and bombed by TTP regularly during that dark period I never heard Syrians or Arabs in general ever talking about lets help our pakistani brothers and sisters even before the Syrian war . I think charity and zakat is great I just think poverty should be alleviated within your own borders first.
Pakistan did not fought war on terror without any assistance from others. It was american war on terror which Musharraf made it our war after taking dollars from USA but we got suffered more than what we got from it

Many charity organisation who provided aid to Pakistan in time of need i.e flood, earth quakes and ny others crisis collected their donation from all countries, races and backgrounds ..again you are free to donate your personal wealth only in Pakistan if you feel no empathy for Syrian people or non Pakistani. You dont object when people spend their personal wealth on luxurious life but you are having objection when they are donating it to syrian Muslim..strange..you spend your wealth wherever you like while others will spend it wherever they wish

Yes it does. One mark can be differance between pass and fail. More to the point, bombed, deluge of migrants, warzone, Russkies, Yanks, Turks using it as target practice yet, guess what Syrian passport still has one more score then Pakistan. FFs what does that say about Pakistan. Basically sandwiched between Syria (above) a warzone and Afghanistan (below) another warzone. And the laugh is Pakistani's here croaking about helping Syrians. That is like one starving, drowning begger croaking about another less starving, drowning begger. Says a lot about the fcuked up mentality of our people.
I will help whoever i will wish. I am not forcing you to help syrian and you cannot dictate me where i should donate my personal wealth .. stop these useless lectures
 
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I will help whoever i will wish. I am not forcing you to help syrian and you cannot dictate me where i should donate my personal wealth .. stop these useless lectures
Idiot, this is forum. Do you come to hear your own echoes? It is a discussion forum where everybody voices their thoughts. Agree with other contributors or not is your choice.
 
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Idiot, this is forum. Do you come to hear your own echoes? It is a discussion forum where everybody voices their thoughts. Agree with other contributors or not is your choice.
I know such topics give pain in your rear but your sarcasm will not stop people to donate whoever they wish. If you were not older then i would have give you response in same tone but this time just ignore your rants
 
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When Ramadan month is about to begin, I convince my family to make a donation for the poor in Pakistan. We send money every year to Pakistan in order to support little school children and orphans. It costs me time, money and energy to organize everything. Reading some of the comments here made me a little bit angry to be frank. Why should I as a stranger donate for your poor children - your family! - if you as Pakistanis aren't helping them in the first place?

I understand your feelings toward Syria but this isn't your business; let the GCC Arabs take care of the Syrians.
 
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When Ramadan month is about to begin, I convince my family to make a donation for the poor in Pakistan. We send money every year to Pakistan in order to support little school children and orphans. It costs me time, money and energy to organize everything. Reading some of the comments here made me a little bit angry to be frank. Why should I as a stranger donate for your poor children - your family! - if you as Pakistanis aren't helping them in the first place?

I understand your feelings toward Syria but this isn't your business; let the GCC Arabs take care of the Syrians.
Why we cannot help boht if we could. I am sure you have poor needy people in turkey as well but you still donate to Pakistan. I have been associated with some charity in the past and i have seen middle eastern arab guys donated generously for Pakistan. You cannot eradicate poverty with donation but if i have option to save a life or to help poor then i would go for saving life even if its non Pakistani life..
 
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I sent money to Syrian and rohingya a few months agos then i hear few days ago from a friend, the charity owner has ran off with the money and it all over Facebook. But i can speculate as i need to contact the person i give the money too. i give a weeks wage amount.
The charity name i cant remeber but it was the one that you get dates in the metal tin for donation.

The middle easterners refugees are too dodgy you give them money and they will ask more and more from other people and the one i saw, this person was dressed well standing out side a store and targeting gullible Asian folks.
That's really sad so we should check the credentials of such organisations before handing over any significant amount.
 
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When Ramadan month is about to begin, I convince my family to make a donation for the poor in Pakistan. We send money every year to Pakistan in order to support little school children and orphans. It costs me time, money and energy to organize everything. Reading some of the comments here made me a little bit angry to be frank. Why should I as a stranger donate for your poor children - your family! - if you as Pakistanis aren't helping them in the first place?

I understand your feelings toward Syria but this isn't your business; let the GCC Arabs take care of the Syrians.
Well, Kedi the truth is quite disturbing. You know in our daily tangles with Indian's by neccessity we redact the truth. Fact is we have poverty in Pakistan. I and my family here and in Pakistan are well off. Have been for three generations. But the thing that pains me most is when I see my people living in utter poverty. Now I want you to revisit that word 'poverty'. I don't mean UK poverty where not having a car and a holiday abroad is poverty, I don't mean Turkish poverty, I don't mean Syrian poverty. I mean disgusting Pakistani poverty that millions of us have escaped abroad and more hide, run, drown in the Mediteranean or cross your borders in quest to get to Europe. I mean poverty where a father has to sell his kidney to make some money. I mean poverty where as routine little children beg and forage on the streets to make enough to eat. I mean poverty which eats people. This exists in Pakistan on a scale that it would drown Syria. Don't believe check the stats.
 
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Its funny that we have some posters here who are comparing poverty in Pakistan with a country who got badly hit by war and facing humanitarian crisis at present. They have no idea about this crisis

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/more-80-syrians-living-below-poverty-line-un-report-says-1557668

Poverty in civil-war hit Syria is growing exponentially with a majority of the population now living below the poverty line, a report published by the UN Economic and Social Commission for Western Asia says. According to the report, the percentage of people below the poverty line has risen from 28% in 2010 to 83.4% in 2015. Extreme poverty has also increased from 14% in 2010 to more than 50% in 2015.

By the last half of 2015, a reported 13.5 million people were in need of humanitarian aid, of whom 12.1 million needed access to water and sanitation. More than four million of them were based in Aleppo and Damascus.

The report says that the health sector and hospitals have especially been hard hit. By 2015, one third (165) of the hospitals in the country had been destroyed and another 11% had been partially damaged. Repairing them was almost impossible since very little access is available to the damaged structures.

Doctors and hospitals were deliberately targeted due to which many have fled the country. The number of people per doctor rose from 661 in 2010 to 1,442 in 2015.

Syria's growth in the last 25 years has been undone by just five years of the conflict. According to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, more than 270,000 people have been killed since the conflict began and millions have been displaced.
 
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