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More than two years after a raid by US forces on Osama bin Laden’s hideout in Abbottabad, Al Jazeera on Monday released a leaked report by the subsequent Pakistani commission formed to probe the matter.
The independent commission’s report, which had been formally handed over to the government earlier in the year, had not been released to the public.
It bore a scathing assessment of the Pakistani government and the security structures.
Perhaps aware of the implications of its findings, the Commission notes that it had “apprehensions that the Commission’s report would be ignored, or even suppressed”, and urged the government to release it to the public.
The government, however, did not do so. The report was buried by the government and never made public, until Al Jazeera got hold of it and released it online.
Findings of the Report
The Commission’s 336 page report is scathing, holding both the government and the military responsible for ‘gross incompetence’, leading to ‘collective failures’ that allowed Bin Laden to escape detection, and the United States to perpetrate ‘an act of war’.
The Commission was charged with establishing whether the failures of the Pakistani government and military were due to incompetence, or complicity. It was given overarching investigative powers, and, in the course of its inquiry, interviewed more than 201 witnesses – including members of Bin Laden’s own family, the chief of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence, and other senior provincial, federal and military officials.
It also notes that the government’s intention in conducting the inquiry was likely aimed at ‘regime continuance, when the regime is desperate to distance itself from any responsibility for the national disaster that occurred on its watch’ and was likely to be ‘a reluctant response to an overwhelming public and parliamentary demand’.
The Commission found that there had been a complete collapse of governance and law enforcement - a situation it termed ‘Government Implosion Syndrome’, both in the lack of intelligence on Bin Laden’s nine-year residence in Pakistan, and in the response to the US raid that killed him. It finds that ‘culpable negligence and incompetence at almost all levels of government can more or less be conclusively established’.
On the presence of a CIA network in Pakistan tracking down Bin Laden, without the Pakistani establishment’s knowledge, the Commission finds “this [was] a case of nothing less than a collective and sustained dereliction of duty by the political, military and intelligence leadership of the country”.
It also states that the US violation of Pakistani sovereignty, in carrying out the raid unilaterally, had been allowed to happen due to inaccurate and outdated threat assessments within the country’s defence and strategic policy establishments.
“It is official or unofficial defence policy not to attempt to defend the country if threatened, or even attacked by a military superpower like the US?” the Commission asks of several top military officers.
“From a Pakistani strategic doctrine point of view,” the report notes, while issuing findings on how the military had wholly focused its “peacetime deployment” of defence capabilities on the border with India, “the world stood still for almost a decade.”
The report states that “the inability to spot the low flying helicopters over Abbottabad cantonment was a major failure.”
The report reads that “no apparent attempt to take him alive was made. Four Pakistani citizens were also killed without any attempt to disarm or detain them. None apparently put up any resistance or fired at the raiders. The US raid was not a capture or kill mission. It was a kill mission.”
Finally, through testimony from Bin Laden’s family and intelligence officials, it provides a fascinating, and richly detailed, account of Bin Laden’s time in Pakistan: his movements, his habits and his pattern of life.
In concluding its report, the Commission finds that the country’s “political, military intelligence and bureaucratic leadership cannot be absolved of their responsibility for the state of governance, policy planning and policy implementation that eventually rendered this national failure almost inevitable”, and calls on the country’s leadership to formally apologise to the people of Pakistan for “their dereliction of duty”.
2011 Raid
US special forces launched a raid deep into Pakistani territory on May 1, 2011 to capture or kill al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden. US soldiers flew via helicopter to the Pakistani army garrison town of Abbottabad on US President Barack Obama, where he was hiding according to their intelligence. In the subsequent raid, Bin Laden and four others were killed, whilst several were wounded.
Following the operation, that had been deliberately conducted without the knowledge of the Pakistani government or its military, a commission was set up in Pakistan to examine “how the US was able to execute a hostile military mission, which lasted around three hours, deep inside Pakistan”, and how Pakistan’s “intelligence establishment apparently had no idea that an international fugitive of the renown or notoriety of [Osama bin Laden] was residing in [Abbottabad],” the report says.
Page 197 of the report, which contains part of the testimony of Lieutenant General Ahmed Shuja Pasha, then director of the ISI, was missing from all copies of the report that Al Jazeera obtained from multiple sources, the news channel stated.
It is unclear what was contained on that page, but the contextual implication is that, among other things, it contains a list of seven demands made by the United States to Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks in 2001.
Al Jazeera Blocked in Pakistan?
Some reports, especially on social media website Twitter, suggested that the Al Jazeera website was inaccessible for some shortly after the report was released. However, the report and the website could easily be accessed by The Express Tribune.
Leaked report: Pakistan had ‘major failures’ during OBL incident – The Express Tribune

Link to the commission's report
Document: Pakistan's Bin Laden Dossier - Pakistan's Bin Laden Dossier - Al Jazeera English
 
The most alarming thing is how he made his house. Moving about in a place like Pakistan isn't that great of a deal...but a 3 storey mansion!!!

Firstly it was made on a fake NIC and an old one, only CNIC's are to be used for buying and selling property. Then he made a 3 storey house in a blatant violation of building codes of the area. Then the huge walls and fort like structure. When our neighbors bought the plot next door and made a new house in place of the old one, they were making huge walls...we went and asked them about it. Maybe it's just in our community, the practice of knowing your neighbors is slowly decreasing in Pakistan.
 
So this effectively puts to rest all the conspiracy theorists and the denialists.

OBL died in 2001.

He never lived in Pakistan.

It was all staged to give Obama positive PR before the elections.

So you dont believe your own inquiry commission, your own agencies, your president, PM, OBL's family and the other 200 witnesses questioned and believe what Hamid Gul and Zaid Hamid said?
 
OBL died in 2001.

He never lived in Pakistan.

It was all staged to give Obama positive PR before the elections.

The US flew in stealth helicopters to drop off the well versed wives and children of bin laden who were trained to withstand the torture and questioning of ISI interrogators and they froze bin ladens blood and reheated it and spilled it all over along with some brains which couldn't be analyzed for DNA because we do not believe in those trivial things while living in this country. I guess we could have sent it abroad to get an answer but then we would have dubbed it a conspiracy theory like 9/11. It was a PR stunt for Obama and even if he got reelected because he killed the poster child of Alqaida, how does that change anything that happened? They now have helicopters that can not be detected. That is what I took from the story.
 
It's hard to accept that you destroyed two countries for one man. And when you have him, you throw him in the sea to be eaten and stayed there till sharks eat him. Also, what about that guy who actually watched the whole raid on his house roof top? Why they haven't mentioned his reference in the report. 200 Witness are only those who didn't saw actual raid happening.
 
Also, what about that guy who actually watched the whole raid on his house roof top? Why they haven't mentioned his reference in the report. 200 Witness are only those who didn't saw actual raid happening.

Couple of questions, What was his version of the incident? and, how do you know he was not included in the 200 that were interrogated, do you have the names of all 200?.
 
The fact of the matter is that our national security establishment was fast asleep and not following OBL at all. This has been mentioned in the commission report. They closed all files on OBL in 2005. Also, the complacency on display should not surprise anyone. After all, in the last 10 years, our civilians have died, terrorists have taken over our cities, and the military and establishment and the civilian leadership has failed to tackle this menace.
 
OBL died in 2001.

He never lived in Pakistan.

It was all staged to give Obama positive PR before the elections.


The US flew in stealth helicopters to drop off the well versed wives and children of bin laden who were trained to withstand the torture and questioning of ISI interrogators and they froze bin ladens blood and reheated it and spilled it all over along with some brains which couldn't be analyzed for DNA because we do not believe in those trivial things while living in this country. I guess we could have sent it abroad to get an answer but then we would have dubbed it a conspiracy theory like 9/11. It was a PR stunt for Obama and even if he got reelected because he killed the poster child of Alqaida, how does that change anything that happened? They now have helicopters that can not be detected. That is what I took from the story.

The default response of deny , deny & deny yet again kicks in automatically.

No surprises here.


It's hard to accept that you destroyed two countries for one man. And when you have him, you throw him in the sea to be eaten and stayed there till sharks eat him. Also, what about that guy who actually watched the whole raid on his house roof top? Why they haven't mentioned his reference in the report. 200 Witness are only those who didn't saw actual raid happening.

Nations destroyed themselves for what he led them to believe.

@ subject, how do such reports get ' leaked ' ?
 
More than two years after a raid by US forces on Osama bin Laden’s hideout in Abbottabad, Al Jazeera on Monday released a leaked report by the subsequent Pakistani commission formed to probe the matter.


One of the important outcomes of such reports is lessons learned.

So what are the lessons learned (if any) by Pakistani educated elite?

And

if so
Can we apply any of these to catch other criminals like Zawahiri?


Or we are all going to sit here and scratch our @rses talking about that deader than a door knob ben f--ing laden?


Because while many of us are having virtual orgasms thanks to Al-Janaza Al Jazeera, Americans are probably planning another raid to f---k Zawahiri in his @rse.


For how long we will allow Islamism and Islamofascism in our country that in turn allows international criminal thugs to hide among our women and children.
 
One of the important outcomes of such reports is lessons learned.

So what are the lessons learned (if any) by Pakistani educated elite?

And

if so
Can we apply any of these to catch other criminals like Zawahiri?


Or we are all going to sit here and scratch our @rses talking about that deader than a door knob ben f--ing laden?


Because while many of us are having virtual orgasms thanks to Al-Janaza Al Jazeera, Americans are probably planning another raid to f---k Zawahiri in his @rse.


For how long we will allow Islamism and Islamofascism in our country that in turn allows international criminal thugs to hide among our women and children.
Whats more important is that the "defense analysts" aka ex-military men are propagating their conspiracy theories to distort public attention from commission's findings. This is the dilemma, truth is distorted for saving personal skins.
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Whats more important is that the "defense analysts" aka ex-military men are propagating their conspiracy theories to distort public attention from commission's findings. This is the dilemma, truth is distorted for saving personal skins.
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Sad! Isn't it.

By spreading these type of constipated conspiracy theories, these Jahannumi babas cannot harm America.

However by these despicable views they are harming our young captains and majors, our precious jawans.

And news rags like express.com are more than willing to peddle this constipated $hit.


So shameful.
 
The US flew in stealth helicopters to drop off the well versed wives and children of bin laden who were trained to withstand the torture and questioning of ISI interrogators and they froze bin ladens blood and reheated it and spilled it all over along with some brains which couldn't be analyzed for DNA because we do not believe in those trivial things while living in this country. I guess we could have sent it abroad to get an answer but then we would have dubbed it a conspiracy theory like 9/11. It was a PR stunt for Obama and even if he got reelected because he killed the poster child of Alqaida, how does that change anything that happened? They now have helicopters that can not be detected. That is what I took from the story.

I will Take a Print out of this post in large texts and frame it on my living room wall . What an outstanding conspiracy theory :tup:.
 
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