LEAKED - India is burning Pakistan through TTP: Latif Ullah Mehsud TTP's 2nd In Command speaks out.

[Robinhood Pandey]

For the sake of argument, if it was true- R&AW's annual budget is <$500 million USD, so for a fraction of this (they won't devout their entire budget to onw task obviously) R&AW have been able to keep Pakistan, a nation with nuclear weapons, a massive military, >200 million people etc, on its knees for over a decade? That's not a bad ROI by any measure.

The above is simply tongue and cheek to showcase the absurdity of Pakistanis' assertions.

Chill Bro,

Mine is just an oversimplified statement for general consumption.

We both know RAW does not have resources to finance a venture of this scale against an opponent like Pak.

Any sort of disectìon is not going to change the common perception. So let it be that way.

These baniya are two faced

Bhagal main shuri aur moun main peace peace

and these Indians are blind nationalists who consider all their agencies, soldiers and politicians as saint who cannot do anything wrong in others countries for self-interest even when their defence ministers talk shit openly in public so its quiet stupid to argue with them because they will never realise the wrong doing of their governemnt against a country which they perceive as enemy

Presence of India in Afghanistan whom they share nothing neither religion nor culture or any border is enough to know what are the interests of India in afghanistan..its definitely not self-less love for afghans

We are born evils. Deal with it

 

[Ind4Ever]

These baniya are two faced

Bhagal main shuri aur moun main peace peace

and these Indians are blind nationalists who consider all their agencies, soldiers and politicians as saint who cannot do anything wrong in others countries for self-interest even when their defence ministers talk shit openly in public so its quiet stupid to argue with them because they will never realise the wrong doing of their governemnt against a country which they perceive as enemy

Presence of India in Afghanistan whom they share nothing neither religion nor culture or any border is enough to know what are the interests of India in afghanistan..its definitely not self-less love for afghans

Here comes Hindu bashing!!!! Hope this gave you some pleasant time. Wow

You Hurt us and retaliation is a crime? What kind of logic is this? We do what have to do. Because you are doing it. But end of the day... India don't want to do it as our armed forces are more than capable of dealing with you. It's you who don't have that confidence. I don't blame you for that.

Our neighbors joins hands for bashing India just because some nut job said something but keep mum when massive amounts of evidence produced by India. Open and shut cases. I envi your double speak bro

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

We are born evils. Deal with it

no you guys are naive not evil but evil are those who run the country not as per wishes of common Indians

 

[Dragon4]

You guys are ridiculous
when terrorism happen in India/Afghanistan then they say terrorists need training, funding, logistic support which Pakistani ISI provide them
When this high terrorism happen in Pakistan then terrorists dont need any support/funding of anyone but then again its pakistan who give them arms, training and funding so that they attack on our army and naval headquarters and kill our children in schools..Pathetic Indian logic..

Do you know what's a pathetic logic? Breeding snakes in your backyard and expecting they will bite only neighbors.

 

[Atlanticore]

LTTE were pretty good, long after India went hostile on them they were still operating improv subs and even did an air raid on Colombo airport lol

I think after the LTTE the mantle passed to Hezbollah for being a super resourceful insurgent group, Hezzies run a parallel govt, are mostly legit but fancy toys and capability wise...

Afghan mujh also served their purpose vs the USSR, as did the Mukti Bahini in the erstwhile East Pakistan.

Nation states have used proxies forever..

This thread is all about that

 

[mr.robot]

you are being gracious
I wont apologise for India re TTP terrorism support because it will be foolish not to use the opportunity when there is instability in Pakistan since the American invasion of Afghanistan. but such commentary is lazy and escaping responsibility.

TTP is an inward monster of ours .. again its not because of LeT and JeM...they are irrelevant.
its a make up of us people.. and again I would exclude KSA and Iran from blame too. the hand of
Iran, India and KSA might have been catalyist but its the willingness of the host.

check this statement out repeated by general public and media persons. who say its all the mistake of Musharraf who sided with USA and betrayed the Taliban.. so TTP has the right to do what it is doing.
meaning if he had not done so.. TTP would have not have picked up arms against the state ( deferred the killing.)
the successful attacks on our bases have been because of insider information as well from those people who are sold to the terrorist ideology.

I ask my self what are three things that can help a state to recover and counter destabilisation?

1. effective protection / distance from conflict zone
2. friendly neighbours
3. good citizens (good means humane, loyal, moderate)

compare that to Pakistan

1. we got Afghanistan with borders that cant be controlled.next to us
2. all I can say is only Iran is indifferent to us at best
3. we got people who apologise for terrorists

As an Indian I would recommend the planners to slow down things a bit so that Americans are not forced to sit us down and and make us stop. so far there is nothing much for Pakistan to show to America which can close our shops so lets continue the program while it lasts.

we got a cleric in the capital who is openly challenging and mocking the state and when the police turns up to him requesting him to tone down his rhetoric he insults it and sends it away. the awesomeness of our COAS goes flat on the question of Red Mosque. the Cleric can summon 4K + guys and can practically cripple the capital if he wants to. not sure who is involved, definitely not India because that will be shameful for us but some say KSA is behind him and that explains his immunity.

A discussion on critical path to obtain strategic and tactical measure is always welcome. I have no qualms about it. But when premise of an argument is based on fallacious claims (50 consulates, Indian weaponry). And are being peddled not even as argument but as facts, it becomes very disappointing, as displayed in last 11 pages.

In the last 11 pages, your post is the only one that has any introspection it it, and that is why I am not being gracious. Just stating the obvious.

I am negotiating with agencies, claims Maulana Abdul Aziz

 

[PARIKRAMA]

• Indian Military modernisation is lagging big time
• Indian Army ammunition stock levels is pathetic (check VK Singh statements and parliamentary reports)
• We dont have quality guns and our INSAS you all know better
• Economy is just about running in 1st gear 2nd gear
• Fiscal Deficit target has been shifted by one year to accomodate government investments which is already running alarm bells on rating companies.
• We dont have enough money to buy "super expensive " rafales

YET

• RAW every operation in Pakistan is a SUCCESS
• We supply all arms, ammo and weapons of exotic variety
• IK Gujral time of winding ops of RAW was a staged OSCAR AWARD LEVEL Performance
• We cant capture or kill Dawood, Azhar or heck even Saeed
• We finance everything from TTP to Balochistan to attacks on innocents day and night
• We hit in Pakistan and Afghanistan day in and day out via proxy wars
• And our best and biggest WMD is "dossiers"
• We operate "50" consulates big and small in Afghanistan

Ironic thread.. ironic logic all over.. If ppl say our media feeds our countrymen with false information, everybody jumps in and says yes true. Now OP posts a video and all says yes its correct.

Some body should tell you all people, in IAS, IFS and IPS, IES how many actually do get to do IFS every year. 50 "consulates" big and small size is the biggest joke ever made. The manpower to be trained, the officials, the state machinery, etc etc - do anyone even realises whats the kind of operations being run to handle 50 numbers of consulates. Say directly that Afghanistan government is a puppet or proxy government of India, why all the other words.

Logic and rationality applied sparingly infact failed miserably. Don know how long both country people will remain blind, knaive and to a much larger extent stupeed....

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

Do you know what's a pathetic logic? Breeding snakes in your backyard and expecting they will bite only neighbors.

stupid again...if we assume that these snakes did bite our neighbour because of our support then we should also assume that now they are biting us because of support of our enemy

logic tell us such high scale terrorism in Pakistan cannot be conducted without someone financing and training them..now you need to guess it who they are

 

[arbit]

They are burning Pakistan and they will keep doing so till we strike back. Strike back and strike really hard.
Fight on main defenses is over. Now we need to chase them till thier backyards.
They pushed us to the wall and now its our turn to counter attack.
If they want to fight with us through proxies, let it be like that.
We fought for decades and survived, its time to launch counter attack.

How are you exactly going to achieve that? Or more precisely what is that NEW thing you are gonna do that will chase us to our backyards?

See, I have less information than you about those attacks but what i saw and understood was that people incapable of independent thought and brainwashed to highest extent were responsible for this. They probably even asked for orders regarding what to do after they were done with the shooting.
If i want to stop the farming of 'Afeem' i will not only incarcerate the farmers sowing the crop but will also rig the soil that no one can replace the farmers. What are you doing about the 'soil'?
You guys are mostly high on adrenalin and are always ready to follow the loudest bozo willing to lay the blame on india, in this case the OP. But you folks are awfully low on strategic thinking.
Anyway thats your shit to shovel. We are too busy getting richer and better.

The only reason, if that matters, that i have wasted yours and mine time writing above is because, everything put aside, child murder is unpardonable and you should get those behind this dastardly act.

Even world cup losses in cricket are - Fixed by India.

That one is true by the way.

 

[Bratva]

Not his fault either, there agencies have built a culture of paranoia, Have you ever seen a single pakistani member ever introspect of what has gone wrong.

Never heard Indians doing a introspect on Maoist infected areas or in Occupied kashmir. But hey when it comes to Pakistan. You lot are the first one in line to give sincere advice

Who is the real tolerant in here ?
A nation that systematically eradicates minorities ,(seeking refugeee staus in India ) or a vibrant democracy .Sorry for offtopic .


On topic :We wouldnt believe this no matter what .
Pakistan created all non state actors for strategic achievements .Now they are biting the same hands that feed them .India didnt do any thing in there .
You policy failure .Dont blame us.

How Pakistan feed TTP that are biting them today ? It is an oxymoron to say Pakistan created TTP

 

[Ind4Ever]

You guys are ridiculous
when terrorism happen in India/Afghanistan then they say terrorists need training, funding, logistic support which Pakistani ISI provide them
When this high terrorism happen in Pakistan then terrorists dont need any support/funding of anyone but then again its pakistan who give them arms, training and funding so that they attack on our army and naval headquarters and kill our children in schools..Pathetic Indian logic..

Dude there is difference between your enemy sponsored terror attacks and the attacks from with in the country.

Who attacks us are from us country

Who attacks you are from your country

In other incidents : Who attacks u are from your own network trained in Afghanistan in the past.

Do you see the difference? It's your country who need to see all terrorist as a bad terrorists. What happened to Lakvi in Pakistan? The guy became a father when he was in your jail for killing innocent people in India? Are u serious? India sponsored these guys to attack Indian people?

You can have snakes in your backyard and expect it to bite only your neighborhood? All are fed up. Iran carry out strikes inside your territory to kill terrorist attacking them

Afghanistan quite literally begging you to stop terrorism inside their country

India already lost its patience with you. It getting thinner and thinner every day.

And you claim innocent?,

 

[SarthakGanguly]

India desires Peace.

by the government and the media etc

Umm no offence. But apparently we control both.

 

[Robinhood Pandey]

Never heard Indians doing a introspect on Maoist infected areas or in Occupied kashmir. But hey when it comes to Pakistan. You lot are the first one in line to give sincere advice




How Pakistan feed TTP that are biting them today ? It is an oxymoron to say Pakistan created TTP

I am yet to blame or to see any Indian here Blamiñg Pak for the maoist issue while for the Kashmir thing. Your govt's " Moral support " for the Kashmiri militants is not even a secret.

 

[Bratva]

"Time to wake up"??? This is EXACTLY what Pakistanis have been spouting for YEARS, after every attack in Pakistan- "RAW, Mossad, CIA, MI6 conspiracy".

To this day, not a shred of verifiable evidence to support it.

Was Good Old Soviet union ever able to prove Pakistan and USA involvement in Afghanistan back in 80's ?

 

[PARIKRAMA]

The success of Indian proxy war is like a multi bagger stock bought after Harshad Mehta time. India invested Rs 100 in Proxy war and today its giving a return of Trillion Dollars (dollars not even Rs).

That ROI is making the world follow this proxy war business model.

Its that stupid logic!!!